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Kev22

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So here's an idea from the mains that seems to be of interest... Artem Anisimov for Alec Martinez.

They're the same age, similar cap hit (Marty $4m/year versus Artie's $3.3m) for MUCH longer (for another six years), he's pretty decent in the defensive zone, and he's a Midwestern kid (born in Michigan, raised at least part of his life there, played college hockey at Miami).

I think there's possibilities here.

I saw this as well. Seems fair, scratches both teams where they itch. If a trade like this were to go down, I still wouldn't let it stop me for making a bigger deal for a top pair, right handed defenseman.
 

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So here's an idea from the mains that seems to be of interest... Artem Anisimov for Alec Martinez.

They're the same age, similar cap hit (Marty $4m/year versus Artie's $3.3m) for MUCH longer (for another six years), he's pretty decent in the defensive zone, and he's a Midwestern kid (born in Michigan, raised at least part of his life there, played college hockey at Miami).

I think there's possibilities here.

It's not terrible, but it doesn't fill our biggest need and he has never played a full season (I don't think). I wonder if we can't get more for Anisimov (either by himself or in a package.
 

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It's not terrible, but it doesn't fill our biggest need and he has never played a full season (I don't think). I wonder if we can't get more for Anisimov (either by himself or in a package.

A) wow not a flat out NO!!! :amazed:

B) I'm not a huge fan, just b/c he's more of the same, a 2/3/4D

C) that contract will not be pleasant in a few years IMO

D) agree with RD, lets add some things with Arty and get a 1/2D
 

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A) wow not a flat out NO!!! :amazed:

B) I'm not a huge fan, just b/c he's more of the same, a 2/3/4D

C) that contract will not be pleasant in a few years IMO

D) agree with RD, lets add some things with Arty and get a 1/2D

Agreed on all points
 

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A) wow not a flat out NO!!! :amazed:

B) I'm not a huge fan, just b/c he's more of the same, a 2/3/4D

C) that contract will not be pleasant in a few years IMO

D) agree with RD, lets add some things with Arty and get a 1/2D

I don't think it was presented as the be all, end all. To me, it's still an upgrade over Connauton and Prout. Anisimov is good, but I'm not he's as valuable as part of a package as you're leading on. I like Arty on this team, but not sure he's an immovable force on this club. He's basically a #3C that's decent on both special teams. He's oft injured, has a concussion history. If we're going big game hunting for a #1 d-man, we're going to have to significantly add to him to get one.
 

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I don't think it was presented as the be all, end all. To me, it's still an upgrade over Connauton and Prout. Anisimov is good, but I'm not he's as valuable as part of a package as you're leading on. I like Arty on this team, but not sure he's an immovable force on this club. He's basically a #3C that's decent on both special teams. He's oft injured, has a concussion history. If we're going big game hunting for a #1 d-man, we're going to have to significantly add to him to get one.

I think what RD/Fro/CBJWennberg are saying is that we want to find someone who can be a legitimate improvement on the right side to play alongside JJ, Murray, and Savard. I haven't seen much of Martinez, but I think it's a solid starting point. Martinez would be an improvement as our #4 defenseman, at least.

We have plenty of 5/6 defensemen (Connauton, Prout, Goloubef, and even Tyutin at this point). If we can get a legitimate improvement in the mold of a 2/3 right side defender (not necessarily right handed), I think we could be fine without Tyuts.
 

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Let's play off season hockey jeopardy

A: Snowball's chance in hell

Q: What are the odds the Jackets obtain a top pairing D-man in trade this summer?
 

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I think what RD/Fro/CBJWennberg are saying is that we want to find someone who can be a legitimate improvement on the right side to play alongside JJ, Murray, and Savard. I haven't seen much of Martinez, but I think it's a solid starting point. Martinez would be an improvement as our #4 defenseman, at least.

We have plenty of 5/6 defensemen (Connauton, Prout, Goloubef, and even Tyutin at this point). If we can get a legitimate improvement in the mold of a 2/3 right side defender (not necessarily right handed), I think we could be fine without Tyuts.

I understand their point. My point is we need more improvements on defense than just a #1. Martinez would be an improvement over our lower pair defensemen and could even be a top four.
 

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I understand their point. My point is we need more improvements on defense than just a #1. Martinez would be an improvement over our lower pair defensemen and could even be a top four.

don't disagree...but we don't have the cap room unless we can move Tyutin to have another 3/4D making that much
 

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I don't think it was presented as the be all, end all. To me, it's still an upgrade over Connauton and Prout. Anisimov is good, but I'm not he's as valuable as part of a package as you're leading on. I like Arty on this team, but not sure he's an immovable force on this club. He's basically a #3C that's decent on both special teams. He's oft injured, has a concussion history. If we're going big game hunting for a #1 d-man, we're going to have to significantly add to him to get one.

But why spend a valuable asset and a good amount of money for someone who just an upgrade over our 6/7/8 dmen? That doesn't seem like a smart use of either to me. We should upgrade those guys through our prospects or smaller trades.
 

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But why spend a valuable asset and a good amount of money for someone who just an upgrade over our 6/7/8 dmen? That doesn't seem like a smart use of either to me. We should upgrade those guys through our prospects or smaller trades.
IMO, because he's a better upgrade than that. Also, defensive focus is something several of our current guys lack, and that's an area of weakness that needs improvement.
 

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IMO, because he's a better upgrade than that. Also, defensive focus is something several of our current guys lack, and that's an area of weakness that needs improvement.

I watch A LOT of Kings games...I like AMart...but I think you only make that trade if you're sending out Tyutin or Jack...more of that same to me...
 

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nothing earth shattering, but a good read about duel offersheeting

http://www.tsn.ca/dual-offer-sheets-the-way-to-land-rfa-talent-1.315613

General Fanager ‏@generalfanager 4m4 minutes ago
15 teams could employ @travisyost strategy. ANA, ARI, BUF, CGY, CAR, CBJ, DAL, EDM, MTL, NSH, OTT, PHI, TBL, TOR, WSH

Very interesting. It would take brass nuts to do that and I'm not sure that team is out there.

If you were on the receiving in, you'd like match the offer for the top player and jettison the lower one.
 

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Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 1m1 minute ago

Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff said he will meet with the agents for his pending UFAs in Florida. Also said he's reached out to.

Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 47s48 seconds ago

Agents of Dustin Byfuglien and Andrew Ladd. Both are heading into last years of their contracts, can be extended July 1.
 

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A couple of days ago, Portzline reported that Columbus wants to improve their back up goalie situation because their are a lot of decent goalies available. He mentioned Lack and Talbot(unlikely but probably phoned NY), any interest in Lehner? He stuggled last year and had injury issues but has the potential to be a solid goalie. Their GM said regarding a goalie trade "It’s not going to be a satisfactory deal... I’m not going to get what I think I should get.” Maybe we can get Lehner for cheap.

Never mind, looked at his salary. Way too much for a back up. Any interest in Markstrom? I'm a homer, I would love Markstrom but the way he played in the NHL lately, is he any better then Forsberg?
 

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A couple of days ago, Portzline reported that Columbus wants to improve their back up goalie situation because their are a lot of decent goalies available. He mentioned Lack and Talbot(unlikely but probably phoned NY), any interest in Lehner? He stuggled last year and had injury issues but has the potential to be a solid goalie. Their GM said regarding a goalie trade "It’s not going to be a satisfactory deal... I’m not going to get what I think I should get.†Maybe we can get Lehner for cheap.

Never mind, looked at his salary. Way too much for a back up. Any interest in Markstrom? I'm a homer, I would love Markstrom but the way he played in the NHL lately, is he any better then Forsberg?

I like the idea of Lack. Knows what it's like to backup "the man"...and would be an upgrade on CMac.
 
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