Sudbury Wolves 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 3)

[WolvesFanInNorthBay]

Not sure what was wrong about what I said? When I posted, he had let in 5 goals on 16 shots and were down 5-2 at the time.

He wasn't in net for all 5. He came in relief after 2 on the starter. So he let in 3 on his own.

Luv these game preview summaries. Thanks

Thanks! I can't do it every game unfortunately. Also, I try and update the original post as more information is released on the OHL score sheet.

 

[cub]

Not sure what was wrong about what I said? When I posted, he had let in 5 goals on 16 shots and were down 5-2 at the time.

obviously didn't watch game, take a look at Game Summary.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Fair enough, a poster mentioned he was on vs. Finland I just assumed he started the game. Looks like he let in 3 on 20 shots.

 

[MGOBlue]

Not sure what was wrong about what I said? When I posted, he had let in 5 goals on 16 shots and were down 5-2 at the time.

He didn't let in 5 goals... The other goalie let in 2 and was pulled early.

 

[cub]

Fair enough, a poster mentioned he was on vs. Finland I just assumed he started the game. Looks like he let in 3 on 20 shots.

2 back door goals, and a break away he let in. Didn't allow a goal in the third.

 

[I Loveallsports]

 

[yalbmert25]

I said, “error evaluating players.” That means, overvaluing your own players, undervaluing other teams players, making poor decisions on player value at the draft table Etc.

Valuing players is essentially half of the hockey operations job when it comes down to it. The other half being development.

You need to be objectively able to evaluate. It really does come down to that. It is one of the reasons why poorer franchises stay poor and stronger franchises remain strong. They have quality evaluators, developers and a manager that can disseminate the information and align it into a team.

So, hypothetically speaking, let’s say a GM is having a conversation and he is willing to move, for example, Walton for Beck on a Wednesday. Then over the weekend, Walton scores 7 points and the following week he says, “Well, Walton had a very good weekend so that changes things.” I’m not saying that happened, jsut as an example. If the player has a very good weekend, it should not change the parameters of the discussion UNLESS you didn’t evaluate the player properly to begin with.

100% agree with your definition of "error evaluating players"

Disagree if you're insinuating that Paps constantly makes errors in evaluating players making the OHL out of his league. Every GM will make mistakes evaluations. There's a such thing as consensus evaluations but at the same time GM's are allowed to vary in there evaluations. Not everyone has to agree with evaluations.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Interesting lines

 

[OMG67]

100% agree with your definition of "error evaluating players"

Disagree if you're insinuating that Paps constantly makes errors in evaluating players making the OHL out of his league. Every GM will make mistakes evaluations. There's a such thing as consensus evaluations but at the same time GM's are allowed to vary in there evaluations. Not everyone has to agree with evaluations.

If you scroll back to see what I was referring to in the beginning, you would see it was in reference to a comment suggesting overvaluing players isn’t a big deal.

 

[djscooter]

These jerseys are so bad...

 

[jamo27]

These jerseys are so bad...

Not a fan, especially with the white lids…

 

[djscooter]

Not a fan, especially with the white lids…

Black on blue numbers are not great either.


Also, have to say, if they move either of Villeneuve or Walton, it's a mistake. Those two are contributing at levels we could only hope to get from deadline pickups.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Delic causing havoc tonight

 

[Muskyslayer]

Can we trade for a coach? Don't know what he is thinking after Walton goal and gain major momentum to come back with Signoretti line is fn amateur. the only line to be stuck in the defensive zone and that's who we come back with. These kids wanna play and this dinosaur sets them up for failure.

 

[I Loveallsports]

I knew it. Been eyeing him all night

He's been slacking throughout the game. Floated back and bang 3-2

Musty

 

[djscooter]

Love to see every line getting in on the scoring for the Wolves.

Team really needs a save at some point though.

 

[jamo27]

Our power play is still garbage

 

[djscooter]

Villeneuve the MVP of that last empty net goal, what a dive to get the puck out, a forecheck to cause havoc and a giveaway to Goyette. Great job to the Wolves tonight, not expecting much against Kitchener tomorrow would be extremely happy with another point but if there's a game that's fair to lose, it's that one. Huge 2 points over Brantford, like I mentioned earlier, it was great to see goals from almost the entire lineup.

 

[armchaircoaches]

Don’t watch then

 

[WeThe North]

We started seing more backchecks Goyette made a huge one in his zone getting the puck back on the Musty goal. If Delic was a finisher he could have scored 5 goals but great energy from him !! Walton and Villy are REALLY stepping up their game and DeAngelis is just Amazing what a great addition this summer.

 

[djscooter]

We started seing more backchecks Goyette made a huge one in his zone getting the puck back on the Musty goal. If Delic was a finisher he could have scored 5 goals bit great energy from him !! Walton and Villy are REALLY stepping up their game and DeAngelis is just Amazing what a great addition this summer.

I really think they need to keep playing Delic and Goyette together, those two click real well.

 

[cub]

good game, Wolves goals from all lines, dominated most of the game 5 vs 5. It wasn't Vandenberg best game, played well in the third to close it down, also credit the D in the third.

 

[NorthernBridge7]

If they don't get traded, the future is bright with Villeneuve & Walton

 

[Wisdom]

Another good win. lots of cheap shots on both sides went uncalled.

 

[Wolf on a Wire]

Back to the issue of evaluating players: Great trade for DeAngelis from Windsor to start the season. IMO our MVP. Thanks Windsor/BB. Great eye Paps.