Sudbury Wolves 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 3)

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billoink

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I just hope Papineau understands the term "all in" and doesn't half as* this trade deadline. There's really no excuses not to add another 3 or 4 key pieces to make a deep run. Hopefully he's looked at past champions like Peterborough, Hamilton, Guelph etc. to understand the concept of all in. I'm sure Papineau will do something, but prices will be high and he needs to pay up.
My biggest fear, I have no confidence in him, he is out of his league, sure hope I am wrong
 

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I would go all in with Buchinger and Poitras in a mega trade or Donovan plus Roobroeck and/or Melee. I’m not sure a OA upgrade can be made this late.

Forget Poitras, he's in Boston. If they did miraculously send him back, Guelph becomes a buyer.

An OA upgrade can be made up until Tuesday and there are conversations happening around upgrades.
 

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My biggest fear, I have no confidence in him, he is out of his league, sure hope I am wrong

I'm not the biggest Papineau fan, but I don't think he's out of his league. I just think he's traditionally really liked prospects and players in his own system. Maybe he ends up overvaluing some of his own players at the deadline. I don't think that means that he's out of his league, or he isn't an OHL-caliber GM. I'm not 100% sure that's what your saying here but that's how I took it.

That being said he's put together a pretty good roster with lots of assets that could be delt. Hopefully it works out!
 

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I'm not the biggest Papineau fan, but I don't think he's out of his league. I just think he's traditionally really liked prospects and players in his own system. Maybe he ends up overvaluing some of his own players at the deadline. I don't think that means that he's out of his league, or he isn't an OHL-caliber GM. I'm not 100% sure that's what your saying here but that's how I took it.

That being said he's put together a pretty good roster with lots of assets that could be delt. Hopefully it works out!

If a GM makes an error evaluating players and this is a consistent issue, it actually does mean he isn’t a good GM.
 

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If a GM makes an error evaluating players and this is a consistent issue, it actually does mean he isn’t a good GM.

I don't think it's been a constant issue. If you're not looking for the best possible return for your players; valuing them extremely high you're not doing your job either. If he sells low on guys what does that make him? Out of his league.

His roster is strong and he has assets. Maybe I'm a product of recency bias, but Walton was a steal in round 2. Coughland and Yearwood have been great cheap additions. and sparked the club last year. I didn't like the Thompson deal at first but then he flipped Holmes a year later and made out looking great!
 
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I don't think it's been a constant issue. If you're not looking for the best possible return for your players; valuing them extremely high you're not doing your job either. If he sells low on guys what does that make him?
That would make him GM of the Niagara Ice Dogs.

But seriously, I'm not the biggest fan of Papineau but I think more often then not he's won trades, and outside of this year(07s) draft class, I think the drafts have been quite good.
 
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I don't think it's been a constant issue. If you're not looking for the best possible return for your players; valuing them extremely high you're not doing your job either. If he sells low on guys what does that make him? Out of his league.

His roster is strong and he has assets. Maybe I'm a product of recency bias, but Walton was a steal in round 2. Coughland and Yearwood have been great cheap additions. and sparked the club last year. I didn't like the Thompson deal at first but then he flipped Holmes a year later and made out looking great!

I said, “error evaluating players.” That means, overvaluing your own players, undervaluing other teams players, making poor decisions on player value at the draft table Etc.

Valuing players is essentially half of the hockey operations job when it comes down to it. The other half being development.

You need to be objectively able to evaluate. It really does come down to that. It is one of the reasons why poorer franchises stay poor and stronger franchises remain strong. They have quality evaluators, developers and a manager that can disseminate the information and align it into a team.

So, hypothetically speaking, let’s say a GM is having a conversation and he is willing to move, for example, Walton for Beck on a Wednesday. Then over the weekend, Walton scores 7 points and the following week he says, “Well, Walton had a very good weekend so that changes things.” I’m not saying that happened, jsut as an example. If the player has a very good weekend, it should not change the parameters of the discussion UNLESS you didn’t evaluate the player properly to begin with.
 
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The defence looks worst than the Wolves ! He didn’t play a single second and now he’s in for a medal. Not smart not giving him one start in the round robin.
 

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North Bay

Sudbury Wolves vs Brantford Bulldogs

Winner takes sole possession of 1st place in the Eastern Conference.

*Bulldogs head coach is former Wolves player Jay McKee*

Friday, January 5th, 2024

OHL Gamesheet
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Wolves are on a 4-game point streak and sit tied in 1st place with the Brantford Bulldogs.
Bulldogs are on a 2-game losing streak and sit tied in 1st place with the Sudbury Wolves.

Starting Goalies:


Sudbury - Vandenberg
Brantford - Drobac


Notables not dressed:


Sudbury:
Jakub Vondras (WJC) (Bronze Medal Winner)
Dalibor Dvorsky (WJC)

Brantford:
Tomas Hamara (WJC) (Bronze Medal Winner)


Officials:

Referee I: Andrew Willmetts (2)
Referee II: Lacey Senuk (39)
LINESMEN I: Ryan Card (83)
LINESMEN II: Marco Lizotte (49)
* This is the same linesman combo from the Friday game against North Bay


Brantford BulldogsSudbury Wolves
17-11-6-1Season Record18-11-3-2
5-3-2-0Last 10 Games5-1-2-2
0-2-0-0Streak2-0-0-0
4-2 L @ North Bay (2024-01-04) FinalLast Game5-1 W @ Sault Ste. Marie (2023-12-30) Final
10-4-0-1Home Record11-4-1-0
7-7-6-0Away Record7-7-2-2
130Goals For153
134Goals Against122
20/136 (14.71%)Power Play29/156 (18.59%)
11/69 (15.94%)Power Play - Home13/75 (17.33%)
9/67 (13.43%)Power Play - Away16/81 (19.75%)
25/119 (78.99%)Penalty Killing34/149 (77.18%)
10/49 (79.59%)Penalty Kill - Home12/58 (79.31%)
15/70 (78.57%)Penalty Kill - Away22/91 (75.82%)
Jake O'Brien (5-23-28)Leading RookieOwen Protz (1-6-7)
Noah Roberts (41)Most Penalty MinutesLandon McCallum (43)
11.4/35Team PIM/GM13.4/34
 
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Sudbury Wolves vs Brantford Bulldogs

Winner takes sole possession of 1st place in the Eastern Conference.

Friday, January 5th, 2024

OHL Gamesheet
Listen Live

Wolves are on a 4-game point streak and sit tied in 1st place with the Brantford Bulldogs.
Bulldogs are on a 2-game losing streak and sit tied in 1st place with the Sudbury Wolves.

Starting Goalies:


Sudbury - Vandenberg
Brantford - ???


Notables not dressed:


Sudbury:
Jakub Vondras (WJC) (Bronze Medal Winner)

Brantford:

Officials:

Referee I: Andrew Willmetts (2)
Referee II: Lacey Senuk (39)
LINESMEN I: Ryan Card (83)
LINESMEN II: Marco Lizotte (49)

Brantford BulldogsSudbury Wolves
17-11-6-1Season Record18-11-3-2
5-3-2-0Last 10 Games5-1-2-2
0-2-0-0Streak2-0-0-0
4-2 L @ North Bay (2024-01-04) FinalLast Game5-1 W @ Sault Ste. Marie (2023-12-30) Final
10-4-0-1Home Record11-4-1-0
7-7-6-0Away Record7-7-2-2
130Goals For153
134Goals Against122
20/136 (14.71%)Power Play29/156 (18.59%)
11/69 (15.94%)Power Play - Home13/75 (17.33%)
9/67 (13.43%)Power Play - Away16/81 (19.75%)
25/119 (78.99%)Penalty Killing34/149 (77.18%)
10/49 (79.59%)Penalty Kill - Home12/58 (79.31%)
15/70 (78.57%)Penalty Kill - Away22/91 (75.82%)
Jake O'Brien (5-23-28)Leading RookieOwen Protz (1-6-7)
Noah Roberts (41)Most Penalty MinutesLandon McCallum (43)
11.4/35Team PIM/GM13.4/34
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