Sudbury Wolves 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 5)

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Yeah, won’t know until near the Christmas break which ‘04s will be available.
I’m not completely comfortable dealing with the Colts, but Punnet would be my top target for all-purpose LD.
I think Punnett would be a good addition, but he's certainly not going to help the Wolves' problem of taking too many penalties and playing undisciplined.
 
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I don't understand why Villeneuve wasn't invited to the U18 Hlinka Tournament. I see that the OHL had a large contingent, but am surprised as to why he wasn't invited. Does anyone know why?
 
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Not good enough in the eyes of hockey Canada what else can we say ? Any player coming from here has to be way better than a London Knight or another well respected program.
 
I think Punnett would be a good addition, but he's certainly not going to help the Wolves' problem of taking too many penalties and playing undisciplined.
I like punnets game but it would be a lateral move at best to replace him over either of the current 03 D.
 
I think Punnett would be a good addition, but he's certainly not going to help the Wolves' problem of taking too many penalties and playing undisciplined.
Hopefully the hooking, tripping, interference type penalties go down because the wolves will be a better team; and, it is the weaker teams that take the lazy looking penalties vs the wolves.
 
I like punnets game but it would be a lateral move at best to replace him over either of the current 03 D.
The difference between Punnet and the wolves’ potential OAs is significant imo, just not as significant as a Taylor plus picks for Nelson trade would be.
 
Sounds like Kitchener owes us a favour. Mitchell Martin at a lower cost than usual sounds about right.
Papineau needs to release or deal away at least 2 or 3 OA's as it is. I think when the trade window opens you may see some moves made of the lower costing OA's. aka Boudreau, Larmand, whenever that window opens. I don't want to see this team have the distraction of having too many overage players report to camp. He needs to get as many picks as possible for the extra players we have currently that won't have a spot come September. I believe the following players are going to be dealt or released before wasting a card.

-Mauro
-DiGiantomasso
-Boudreau
-Bishop
-Larmand

bubble

-McCallum or Toure

WJ
 
Papineau needs to release or deal away at least 2 or 3 OA's as it is. I think when the trade window opens you may see some moves made of the lower costing OA's. aka Boudreau, Larmand, whenever that window opens. I don't want to see this team have the distraction of having too many overage players report to camp. He needs to get as many picks as possible for the extra players we have currently that won't have a spot come September. I believe the following players are going to be dealt or released before wasting a card.

-Mauro
-DiGiantomasso
-Boudreau
-Bishop
-Larmand

bubble

-McCallum or Toure

WJ
I don't see anyone wanting Larmand if we're being honest. I think Boudreau would be great for a rebuilding team who wanted some veteran leadership though. I would hope Mauro and Bishop are as good as good, they were not good enough for last years team, they're certainly not good enough for a team that hopes to contend this year.
 
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Yup, pretty bad; we lit a 4th rounder on fire for a player with little to no chance of ever showing up. We did this as a favor to Kitchener so they could claim him as defective and get a compensation.
I think we did the same thing with Clevland and a 7th rounder this year. I don't mind our GM taking swings like this. Sure you can argue that the 4th was more valuable and it is but it's the same idea. Middle of the road asset for potentially a huge payoff. That being said, keep an eye on Andrew MacNeil in Kitchener. That's who they picked with the 4th.
 
I think we did the same thing with Clevland and a 7th rounder this year. I don't mind our GM taking swings like this. Sure you can argue that the 4th was more valuable and it is but it's the same idea. Middle of the road asset for potentially a huge payoff. That being said, keep an eye on Andrew MacNeil in Kitchener. That's who they picked with the 4th.
Maybe it's my own delusions, but a 4th just feels like a much more impactful pick then a 7th. I'm sure if someone goes and looks at the history of the 4th and the 7th round the difference ends up being pretty minimal though.

You can also argue Mania was a similar situation and that one worked out pretty good. Guess you have to average out all the risky picks over the years.
 
Maybe it's my own delusions, but a 4th just feels like a much more impactful pick then a 7th. I'm sure if someone goes and looks at the history of the 4th and the 7th round the difference ends up being pretty minimal though.

You can also argue Mania was a similar situation and that one worked out pretty good. Guess you have to average out all the risky picks over the years.
4th rounders usually play at least! Isaak Phillips, Liam Ross, Andre Anania were all hits with 4th round picks! So I see what your saying. But....

It's not like we didn't have a 4th rounder in the draft. We took Jaydon Connors 3 picks before Kitchener took MacNeil.

So to me, let's judge the scouting staff and the guy who makes the call on draft day. You gave up a later 4th rounder to take a swing at Hage, then you pick Connors with your 4th. Connors has to be better than MacNeil 3 years from now then who cares about the trade. That's how I'll judge the trade.

And that's why I'm probably delusional because you still lost an asset for nothing? But it's a swing. I like swings.
 
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What do we think mccallum would bring in on open market?
Not enough to justify trading him. I called his breakout season last summer.

Should have traded him at last years deadline if they really wanted to move him.

Overages just never seem to have big value for us. We need him to win. Even if you upgrade one OA spot, Anania and McCallum are still 2nd and 3rd in no real particular order.

Larmand is done, Boudreau is done. Toure is a fringe OA player and he would be the guy I would consider the odd man out if you bring in an OA body.

If you trade McCallum and don't bring a high end OA back you've downgraded by having Larmand, Anania and Toure as your 20-year-olds. Unless he wants to be moved you keep him because I don't see how you make the team better this year by trading him and the Wolves HAVE to be better THIS year!
 
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Not keeping Larmand means that our staff really missed the boat on him. Larmand has been relied on more than just about anyone on this team the last couple of years. If our staff doesn't think he is worthy of an OA position this year, it just means that the ice time he's received the last couple of years (pk, pp, on for the last minute of the games on most nights) was all for nothing. It might have even been detrimental in allowing some of the younger players to develop in certain situations.

It is precisely for these reasons that I feel Larmond will be a part of this team on opening night. I personally don't get why he played more than Boudreau, Konyen, Pharand and others in key situations, but that's how highly regarded he is by this coaching staff.
 
Larmand should not be an OA.He was undisciplined and did not have a productive enough season to merit consideration.Toure was our toughest D to play against last year and will be better offensively this year after getting acclimated to the OHL.
 
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