This is actually an interesting point and really changes the calculus. If you're Holloway and think you were alone in being presented the OS, (and you don't want to leave Edmonton you just want a pay raise), you think "2.2, they'll match."I also wonder if both players knew that the other guy was doing the same thing, or if they were alone in their negotiations. You'd assume they are in on the plan with STL. But negotiations are private, so maybe they thought they were the only one doing this to Edmonton.
Would have been interesting to see Holloway’s WTF moment when he found out Broberg was offered double what he wasThis is actually an interesting point and really changes the calculus. If you're Holloway and think you were alone in being presented the OS, (and you don't want to leave Edmonton you just want a pay raise), you think "2.2, they'll match."
Knowing Broberg was also offered means the likelihood of not being back if Edmonton feels like have to choose one or the other becomes much higher.
I still think it's weird how Armstrong has been an almost perfect GM, yet he insisted on slamming their window of contention shut by doing everything in his power to dump Pietrangelo. That'll always be a black mark on an otherwise great tenure
Overpaying like that is not exactly brilliant.
Also, Broberg receiving a Brinks truckload of cash before he was even able to be a regular on a weak blue squad does not meet the "show me" definition by any metric.
Unless you mean...
"A freshwater salmon has a staggering IQ of 130, while the average human IQ is just 100."Broberg is awful. 10 playoff games doesn't change my opinion that his hockey IQ is equal to that of a salmon.
"A freshwater salmon has a staggering IQ of 130, while the average human IQ is just 100."
Bottom six forward vs a top four D. Imo the Blues expect the Oilers will match on Holloway but allow them to take Broberg.Would have been interesting to see Holloway’s WTF moment when he found out Broberg was offered double what he was
Yeah but of they sign both now they will be 7% over which is against the cap rules.It is offseason, you can be over the cap right now. They can make trades to manoeuvre if need be.
Honestly its avtually smart as sheetThey don't think Broberg is worth the ridiculous sheet they just sent him - They just know Edmonton can't match the offer because of their horribly mismanaged CAP that idiot Holland left behind.
Pluck a couple young players with potential to grow for money....which apparently the owner has said is a-ok!. Weird you are seeing desperation by St. Louis....it's literally the exact opposite.
In the off season aren’t teams allowed 10% over?Yeah but of they sign both now they will be 7% over which is against the cap rules.
Honestly its avtually smart as sheet
For over $4M I would sure as hell hope so.He will be a regular with the blues.
Neither player is worth the contract they were offered, that’s kind of the point of another sheet. You sign players to contracts they force the teams hand. The Blues have the extra cap space to burn without thinking twice about how these two perform.Idk if Broberg's value at 4.5 is more than a second. He's an exciting question mark, but it's a steep number for a question mark.
I’m not talking about fans, Im talking about the players in the Oilers dressing room, a collection of guys who are close to and doing everything they can to realize a lifelong dream. If young guys want to chase bags instead of being apart of that, it’s their right and I’m sure guys can understand that in a lot of situations. But in this case, you’ve got young players doing something that players almost never do, which could directly hinder the teams ability to maneuver the cap in a season that’s most likely one of the best chances most of the guys in the room will ever have at winning a Stanley Cup. I think it’s fair to say guys might be a little upset at a kid with less then a full season strong arming his way into a 4.6M cap hit in that season.Oh nooooo, they will be making millions of dollars but other players in the room who are also making millions will be in their fee fees. How sad.
Or more likely, hockey players aren’t as soft as fans on message boards. Their job is to play a game and make as much money as they can during their relatively short careers, they’re not there to make fans happy about their team’s cap situation. f***in deal with it.
One more season of Ceci + a 2nd round pick or retain Broberg. I'm keeping the 23 year old with top 4 potential, considering Ceci is gone in a year anyway and better suited as a 3rd pair guy.Okay but Broberg has done fudge all to be offered 3.5 mill either. Blues are doing this to buy a player that’s it. No contender gives 4.5 mill to a player who looked okay for 10 games.
The guy requested a trade. He literally doesn’t want to play in Edmonton and another team offered him over 9 million smacks over the next two years. Do you blame him for signing the offer sheet?I’m not talking about fans, Im talking about the players in the Oilers dressing room, a collection of guys who are close to and doing everything they can to realize a lifelong dream. If young guys want to chase bags instead of being apart of that, it’s their right and I’m sure guys can understand that in a lot of situations. But in this case, you’ve got young players doing something that players almost never do, which could directly hinder the teams ability to maneuver the cap in a season that’s most likely one of the best chances most of the guys in the room will ever have at winning a Stanley Cup. I think it’s fair to say guys might be a little upset at a kid with less then a full season strong arming his way into a 4.6M cap hit in that season.
You kind of have to respect Broberg for it because it’s such a stupid amount of money it would be hard to say no to that but the Oilers don’t need to be paying a bottom pairing defender with 80 NHL games almost 5M dollars.
Actually a player can start the season on LTIR. There are two different sets of rules one for in-season LTIR and one for preseason LTIR. The differences are subtle.You are allowed to be 10 percent over the cap in the offseason but have to be cap compliant when it starts. Then you go into LTIr. You can’t start the season in LTIR. Teams get around this by icing less players
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Lol how do they measure the IQ of a salmon? If they're so smart why do they end up on my dinner plate instead of the other way around?
Hey, if the salmon had legs and arms and could breathe outside of water, you would be their dinner!