Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)
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This is actually an interesting point and really changes the calculus. If you're Holloway and think you were alone in being presented the OS, (and you don't want to leave Edmonton you just want a pay raise), you think "2.2, they'll match."
Knowing Broberg was also offered means the likelihood of not being back if Edmonton feels like have to choose one or the other becomes much higher.
If I would have to bet, Broberg would be let go first from the two of these guys. Holloway is probably easier to swallow.
Bowman has to show his worth immediately, love it. Good dagger immediately for the hire. Some offsesason action.
Bowman has to show his worth immediately, love it. Good dagger immediately for the hire. Some offsesason action.
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Would have been interesting to see Holloway’s WTF moment when he found out Broberg was offered double what he was
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You're misinformed on the Petro situation but we don't need to get into that in this thread. The offer to Petro was more than fair but he chose the bright lights instead.
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The cap doesn’t matter for the Blues right now hardly at all. We have 4-5 contracts to run out in those 2 years. Faulk, Krug, Binner, Leddy and Saad.
What’s more beneficial with the cap space, getting a look at two young recently top half of the 1st round players who are NHL ready, or nickel and diming our way to accrue mid round picks by helping other teams get better?
If Broberg and Holloway don’t work out the cost was 13m over 2 years in real money and a 2nd and 3rd. If they do work out, we’ve filled a massive gap in our prospect pool with Broberg and potentially added pieces that we can re-sign as we’re planning to turn the corner.
The 2nd and 3rd are pretty meaningless with as deep as our prospect pool is currently. Given the route we’ve been going, this offseason has been great. Having 9 picks - dumping Hayes - bringing in Texier, both Josephs, Faska, potentially Broberg and Holloway for 2 2nds and a 3rd is pretty good value.
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"A freshwater salmon has a staggering IQ of 130, while the average human IQ is just 100."
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Lol how do they measure the IQ of a salmon? If they're so smart why do they end up on my dinner plate instead of the other way around?
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Bottom six forward vs a top four D. Imo the Blues expect the Oilers will match on Holloway but allow them to take Broberg.
Yeah but of they sign both now they will be 7% over which is against the cap rules.
Honestly its avtually smart as sheet
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In the off season aren’t teams allowed 10% over?
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For over $4M I would sure as hell hope so.
That doesn’t change he wasn’t one last season nor very good.
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Neither player is worth the contract they were offered, that’s kind of the point of another sheet. You sign players to contracts they force the teams hand. The Blues have the extra cap space to burn without thinking twice about how these two perform.
Edmonton hired one of the least respected GMs, they have huge contracts coming up with little cap space, and they want to become a Stanley Cup contender. As an opponent why wouldn’t you try to dismantle their depth if you have the resources necessary.
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I’m not talking about fans, Im talking about the players in the Oilers dressing room, a collection of guys who are close to and doing everything they can to realize a lifelong dream. If young guys want to chase bags instead of being apart of that, it’s their right and I’m sure guys can understand that in a lot of situations. But in this case, you’ve got young players doing something that players almost never do, which could directly hinder the teams ability to maneuver the cap in a season that’s most likely one of the best chances most of the guys in the room will ever have at winning a Stanley Cup. I think it’s fair to say guys might be a little upset at a kid with less then a full season strong arming his way into a 4.6M cap hit in that season.Oh nooooo, they will be making millions of dollars but other players in the room who are also making millions will be in their fee fees. How sad.
Or more likely, hockey players aren’t as soft as fans on message boards. Their job is to play a game and make as much money as they can during their relatively short careers, they’re not there to make fans happy about their team’s cap situation. f***in deal with it.
You kind of have to respect Broberg for it because it’s such a stupid amount of money it would be hard to say no to that but the Oilers don’t need to be paying a bottom pairing defender with 80 NHL games almost 5M dollars.
One more season of Ceci + a 2nd round pick or retain Broberg. I'm keeping the 23 year old with top 4 potential, considering Ceci is gone in a year anyway and better suited as a 3rd pair guy.
I'm sure the Oilers made an offer, if Broberg wasn't interested in signing he should've been dealt, strong chance they'll lose a player with high upside for pennies on the dollar now. Their hand is forced, it never should have got to this point.
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Peter Chiarelli always causing problems with the Oilers. Guy is still salty.
If I'm Oilers you keep Broberg. Holloway can be replaced
If I'm Oilers you keep Broberg. Holloway can be replaced
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The guy requested a trade. He literally doesn’t want to play in Edmonton and another team offered him over 9 million smacks over the next two years. Do you blame him for signing the offer sheet?
I know Oilers fans are all about this “veterans are tripping over themselves to sign with a contender”, but you need to realize that this might be the only chance Broberg ever has to make millions of dollars.
If the Oilers match and guys in the room act like a bunch of cancerous babies that just pissed their pants, then that says a lot about their culture
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Actually a player can start the season on LTIR. There are two different sets of rules one for in-season LTIR and one for preseason LTIR. The differences are subtle.
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The players in the Oilers dressing room don't need to be reminded that their fellow players are actual people, with responsibilities, families, and a short window to maximise their earnings as an athlete. More than a few of those guys played with Klefbom, who fortunately for him, had signed a nice contract before his career ended unexpectedly.
The Oilers dressing room understands. It's fans that need constant reminder that the players are people first, not commodities.
The Oilers dressing room understands. It's fans that need constant reminder that the players are people first, not commodities.
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I bet broberg's trade value was higher than a 2nd when he requested the trade.
Hey, if the salmon had legs and arms and could breathe outside of water, you would be their dinner!
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I think I could take him.
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