Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)

[arttk]

if it was my decision, I'd do the old Burke "Drive 'em to the airport."

Want to sign an offer sheet with a non playoff team? Instead of a run to the Cup? Adios. Sure, each of them could be the star they think they are, but I don't see it.

Go with the guys that want to be on the team. And wait for an opportunity to settle scores later.

Broberg is getting paid like 2.5X more than what he was asking for. Hockey careers are short, players who are established can take risks with less pay but for not established ones like Broberg, this might be his last NHL contract and in that context winning doesn’t really matter.

 

[Three On Zero]

This is a scalding hot take.

If it was a hot take these players wouldn’t have signed for more money and less of a chance at the up. It’s reality

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

117 pages of discussion (2923 posts) on HF Oil and still going. Non-story?

Seems a bit excessive.

 

[Rubi]

117 pages of discussion (2923 posts) on HF Oil and still going. Non-story?

It's mid August. Given the time of year it's a HUGE story. Besides, its a negative story about the Oilers and who doesn't enjoy a good Oiler beat down?

BTW, I see 89 pages and 2206 posts.

 

[HolyGhost]

Oilers can't match

 

[McJedi]

Broberg is getting paid like 2.5X more than what he was asking for. Hockey careers are short, players who are established can take risks with less pay but for not established ones like Broberg, this might be his last NHL contract and in that context winning doesn’t really matter.

Or that winning occurred the second he signed that OS on Blues letterhead. One way or another, he just signed a $9.2mm winning lottery ticket.

Really don’t see how Edmonton matches, sends a lot of wrong signals to the locker room. On a player that doesn’t want to be in that locker room.

 

[Oilslick941611]

The risk is always that this will cost them when renegociating with their RFAs... For any good RFA D-men prospect the starting price is probably 4.5 mils. Now, if Broberg dissapoints then any better young D-man may ask for more.

The TML thought they they were smart getting Tavares at no cost, but that that smart move screw the negociations with WN,MM, AM... It ended up costing a lot.

Yup. Broberg will be making more than Bouchard this coming season. That’s insane.

 

[McJedi]

Daily Faceoff strongly insinuating Oilers will only match one, Holloway.

Even if they disagree on which player to match.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Yup. Broberg will be making more than Bouchard this coming season. That’s insane.

And Nurse will be making more than Makar. Insane.

 

[Three On Zero]

Daily Faceoff strongly insinuating Oilers will only match one, Holloway.

Even if they disagree on which player to match.

They really have no choice but to match Holloway, they have very thin depth. Holloway can at least be a proven bottom 6 player

 

[Oilslick941611]

I have to agree with you. The $1.8m that Broberg wanted and the $1.2m that Holloway wanted was completely reasonable. The Oilers f***ed themselves. If I was an Oilers fan I'd be royally pissed.

Broberg wasn’t signing at 1.8. Ferris said wait for the summer

And Nurse will be making more than Makar. Insane.

Yeah. It is. But how does that have anything to do with matching broberg being a terrible idea?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Broberg wasn’t signing at 1.8. Ferris said wait for the summer


Yeah. It is. But how does that have anything to do with matching broberg being a terrible idea?

Because most likely we wouldn't be in this bind if Holland wasn't a f***ing idiot when he signed that extension.

 

[bobbop]

Blues doing the one thing I wish more teams did, by announcing their offer sheets.

I'm still convinced there's a ton of offer sheets we never hear about, every summer, because they fall through.

All offer sheets are announced,

There are however many that are privately threatened. That does spur some business both signings and trades.

 

[McBooya42]

It's mid August. Given the time of year it's a HUGE story. Besides, its a negative story about the Oilers and who doesn't enjoy a good Oiler beat down?

BTW, I see 89 pages and 2206 posts.

Blues Offersheet Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) | Oilers Have Till Aug 20th To Decide​

Check that thread. 118 pages, 2934 posts now - on the HF Oil board, not here. Calling it a non-story amongst Oiler fans is not quite an apt descriptor.

 

[McBooya42]

Seems a bit excessive.

Ehh..we're a passionate bunch. Lots of opinions, ideas, ranting, and consternation (right now). We're a busy board over there on average.

 

[coooldude]

If it was a hot take these players wouldn’t have signed for more money and less of a chance at the up. It’s reality

It's one thing to say that these players made the decision to leave the oilers for (a lot) more money than they would have made staying, while significantly reducing their chances of winning a cup in the next 2 years (probably zero). It's a whole 'nother thing to say that depth players don't care about winning cups and that cups only matter to stars.

 

[McBooya42]

Well then. Bye bye Holloway?
1.0 million cap hit. LW. check and check:

Vasili Podkolzin Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Vasili Podkolzin, a hockey player from Moscow, Russia born Jun 24 2001 who was active from 2018 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

Give up a 4th, and get a 3rd. Give up a 14th overall pick and take the 10th. Done and Done.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1825302952149459194

 

[Three On Zero]

It's one thing to say that these players made the decision to leave the oilers for (a lot) more money than they would have made staying, while significantly reducing their chances of winning a cup in the next 2 years (probably zero). It's a whole 'nother thing to say that depth players don't care about winning cups and that cups only matter to stars.

In this scenario, it’s arguably exactly what’s happening.

 

[coooldude]

In this scenario, it’s arguably exactly what’s happening.

No it's not, unless you get a quote from the players that says that exactly. Maybe they don't believe in the Oilers core and don't think they can run it back and win a cup, so it's not at all about "choosing not to win a cup." Maybe in this very unique scenario, their pay increase was so significant that it overwhelmed the 10% chance of a cup especially for Broberg. This situation is way too unique to generalize to all depth players, which is what your original post did, and frankly is a ridiculous thing to try to claim ("depth players don't care about getting their name on the cup"). I will not be responding to any further weird attempts to defend your hot take, but you're free to keep believing it.

 

[Mr Positive]

I guess it depends how you look at it, with just a 2 year deal he would need to be extended sooner, and would have bargaining power to ask for a raise / arbitration. I wouldnt mind a longer term deal because I think he would live up to that number eventually, just probably not in two years

It seems very likely that he will be worth at least 5 million aav in 2 years

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

If the Oilers let Holloway go, and somehow trade both Ceci and Kulak, they can sign Broberg, not LTIR Kane, and still be under the cap funny enough. If they don't trade Ceci and Kulak, they can keep Broberg, but they have to LTIR Kane.

 

[Three On Zero]

No it's not, unless you get a quote from the players that says that exactly. Maybe they don't believe in the Oilers core and don't think they can run it back and win a cup, so it's not at all about "choosing not to win a cup." Maybe in this very unique scenario, their pay increase was so significant that it overwhelmed the 10% chance of a cup especially for Broberg. This situation is way too unique to generalize to all depth players, which is what your original post did, and frankly is a ridiculous thing to try to claim ("depth players don't care about getting their name on the cup"). I will not be responding to any further weird attempts to defend your hot take, but you're free to keep believing it.

This right here, this is the scalding hot take.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Wonder if Podkolzin is a sign towards the Oilers not matching on Holloway.

 

[Old Boys Club]

If Oilers match Broberg, is there any stipulation regarding contract buyout? Could the Oilers buy him out at the annual buyout window in June, or is that prohibited under a similar rule to the 1 yr trade rule?

 

[McBooya42]

Wonder if Podkolzin is a sign towards the Oilers not matching on Holloway.

I'm going to say....

1.0 million cap hit for the next two years, natural lefty, and 10th overall pick for a 4th, while we get cap space and a 3rd back? Yeah...Dylan's done in Edmonton.