Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)

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Junohockeyfan

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There's no sour grapes. In fact I've continuously praised Doug Armstrong for a savvy move. But nothing has changed. Like yesterday, and the day before that, and the day before that, and the day before that, and the one before that.
This is the dog days of summer. The Armstrong mayhem is still front page news until there is another story to move it to the backpage.

Until then, enjoy the attention! lol
 
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I think its easier for GMs to disrespect him compared to others due to his past. The Oilers contender / cup favorite mantra also adds to the potential dislike. I just don't see any GMs doing him favors.
For sure to the bolded. What makes the Oilers weaker makes their teams stronger.
 

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That isn't a Bowman factor though. That is purely a GM trying to get more from a team in a trade when that kind of trade needs to be made. That scenario would persist if that GM wasn't named Bowman, but was any other GM in the league. If a GM wasn't trying to do that with whoever the other GM was,, he wouldn't be doing his job. It is a thing in regular life too. If you don't need to sell something, then you only will if you are given an offer you can't refuse.
Some think that Armstrong wouldn't have made these moves if Holland was still in charge in EDM.
 

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Some think that Armstrong wouldn't have made these moves if Holland was still in charge in EDM.
Apparently Holland and Armstrong are pretty decent friends. I doubt Bowman's past has anything to do with it, moreso that Doug's friend is no longer in charge so there's no reason for him not to make a move.

But I doubt we'll ever know
 

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Love how this has just turned into a circle jerk for the same handful of people to continually try and insist to Oiler fans how f***ed the team is.

We get it. Go eat your fruit now.
Gee. If only there was a way you could avoid reading this thread. 😆
Anyhoo. First double offer sheet in league history. It’s a pretty hot topic in the dog days of summer.
 

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Gee. If only there was a way you could avoid reading this thread. 😆
Anyhoo. First double offer sheet in league history. It’s a pretty hot topic in the dog days of summer.
Absolutely it's a hot topic. But that's not what the CJ's are talking about. It's all about how hooped the Oilers are.

They aren't.
 
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Absolutely it's a hot topic. But that's not what the CJ's are talking about. It's all about how hooped the Oilers are.

They aren't.
I disagree. They come out of this weaker no matter what they do. If the shoe was on the other foot for another Canadian team whose management had blundered like this then Oiler fans would be piling on as well.
 

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But that's not what is remarkable about this situation. When was the last time that one team made two offer sheets to players from one team, and a Cup finalist at that, both at the same time?

Never. Sounds pretty dramatic, to me. Also, while i am sympathetic to the argument that Holloway and Broberg aren't worth much, it ignores their age, and potential to be top 9 and top 4 players, respectively.

All in all, a pretty juicy topic for discussion for any hockey fan.
It is the first time 2 offer sheets were made an accepted. It may not be the first time it has been tried.
 

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You can keep trying to convince me that the Oilers are somehow up shits creek, but nothing you keep saying repeatedly changes the fact that they aren't.
They were weakened, not up shit creek. This impacts their D-corps. It impacts their future. It impacts the cap significantly if they match.

You can bury your head in the sand if it helps you process it.
 

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They were weakened, not up shit creek. This impacts their D-corps. It impacts their future.

You can bury your head in the sand if it helps you process it.
Nothing has been weakened yet. The defense is still the same as it was for the last 3 seasons.

Broberg signing a contract for like 3x his value doesn't weaken the defense. Nor does it strengthen it.
 

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Gee. If only there was a way you could avoid reading this thread. 😆
Anyhoo. First double offer sheet in league history. It’s a pretty hot topic in the dog days of summer.
Actually that is not true. In 1991 the Blues made an offer sheet to Dave Christian (of Boston), and the Bruins hit back with a double offer for Glenn Featherstone and Dave Thomlinson.

This weakens the D corps no matter the outcome. What was already a weak backend got weaker.
By weakens you mean that our top 6 Dmen will be exactly the same as last year... But somehow weaker ;)
 

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Actually that is not true. In 1991 the Blues made an offer sheet to Dave Christian (of Boston), and the Bruins hit back with a double offer for Glenn Featherstone and Dave Thomlinson.


By weakens you mean that our top 6 Dmen will be exactly the same as last year... But somehow weaker ;)
Exactly the same? Broberg didn't play in the playoffs last season? Broberg didn't give hope of turning the Nurse pairing into a potential 2nd pairing? Broberg doesn't represent the future?

Yeah, its just rosy for the Oilers. No impact at all. lol

"Not getting weaker" is not the same as "getting stronger"....
It got weaker. And if the Oilers match, significantly weaker due to having to dump salary.
 
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Exactly the same? Broberg didn't play in the playoffs last season? Broberg didn't give hope of turning the Nurse pairing into a potential 2nd pairing? Broberg doesn't represent the future?

Yeah, its just rosy for the Oilers. No impact at all. lol


It got weaker. And if the Oilers match, significantly weaker due to having to dump salary.
Yes, Broberg played in the playoffs last year, he was the #7 D-man in games played.... No, he didn't give hope of turning up the Nurse pair, as it was often explained to you, he gave hope of becoming a Decent-good D-man on the same side as Nurse. And no, he doesn't represent the future, the future of the Oilers depends on McD,Draisaitl, Hyman, Bouchard, Eklund and so no.... Our hopes don't start and end with Broberg, the only hope with Broberg before the offer sheet was that someday we maybe can give us a small bonus.

And despite what Oilers haters wanna think, while the offer shit puts us in a not so nice possition, the sky is not falling in Edmonton. Our hopes of making the playoffs and going deep do not rely on Broberg, and his potential impact is very very small compared with other players (and only if he plays like in the last 10% of the games of his career, otherwise he would have no impact wahtsoever).

Unless he progresses quite a bit over the next two years (which yes I know, can happen, but it also may NOT happen), this did NOT weakened our D for the next years.... But of course, all haters know that once a prospect leaves the Oilers he will suddenly become a star. We have seen that with Yakupov, with Pulju and now it is Broberg's turn.

The reality is that it will be few years until we really know if this offer shit trully hurt the Oilers or not.
 

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Dallas is only a paper tiger because Jamie Benn sucks at hockey. If he tears his ACL in training camp then Dallas will win the Cup this year.

What a weird post. Benn isn’t as good as he used to be, but still has a positive impact.
 
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