Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] F Dylan Holloway (2 years, $2.290457M AAV) and D Philip Broberg (2 years, $4.580917M AAV) sign offer sheets with the Blues (not matched)

[Xerloris]

He doesn't have a cap hit like the others, his percentage is the lowest, by several points in every instance. It's disingenuous to compare them when they were signed in different eras, the only way you can compare them is by cap hit percentages, and Pettersson's is far and away the lowest.

Hate to break it to you but 13% is not far and way from 15%

 

[Rowlet]

Hate to break it to you but 13% is not far and way from 15%

The difference between 13% and 15/16% is nearly 3 million dollars per year in the case of McDavid, nearly 2 million per year for the others, if their deals were signed today.

11.4 per for EP, 13.2 for the others, 14.1 for McDavid

 

[BlueSeal]

The difference between 13% and 15/16% is nearly 3 million dollars per year in the case of McDavid, nearly 2 million per year for the others, if their deals were signed today.

11.4 per for EP, 13.2 for the others, 14.1 for McDavid

It's not in money, it's in scale.

 

[Rowlet]

It's not in money, it's in scale.

13% is a 15% drop from 15%.

Does Pettersson deserve 85% as much as any of those other guys in their contract years? I'd find it hard to come up with that many reasons why not, a lot of people are going to be very surprised at what 100pt 25 year old C's sign for going forward.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Getting paid like McDavid, Matthews, and MacKinnon. He is in fact not a McDavid, Matthews, or MacKinnon.

At 10 million, he'd be fine. At 10.5, he'd be fair value. At 11.6, overpaid.

Well he makes far less than two of them and #97 will be far ahead pretty soon.


He's also put up similar points to AM and Nate before this season had similar production, especially if you go by age.

But again, shouldn't this contract be judged once it starts?

 

[Rubi]

A guy with over 80 points just a season ago and has scored 40 and 30+ 6 times is not a steal at 3 mil?

Mark my words... Skinner, as the season progresses, will become the new whipping boy for Oiler fans.

 

[HolyGhost]

Oilers do not have the cap room to match.they are at the cap already

 

[HenrikW]

As an Oiler fan, seeing all this go down is just thoroughly disappointing. Once more, Oilers management has every opportunity to succeed but end up cucking themselves. Their young players didn't ask for much really. To low ball them and not sign them when they should is just so disappointing. Mismanaging youth seems like Oilers bread and butter

 

[GOilers88]

All of this talk of attaching picks to players like Ceci and Kulak, just to keep Bro and Holly is alarming. If all they have to attach is a 2026 2nd and 2025 & 26 3rds, then they are going to need to add for a team to accept Ceci or Kulak.

It must be tough for Oilers fans to accept that their FO is this inept at managing a roster.

The 4M to Arvidsson (31 y/o) was plenty to extend both Bro and Holly.

The other 3M to J. Skinner (32 y/o) could have been better spent.

Also, we've all been reading since Tuesday how much Oilers fans really don't like either of Broberg or Holloway, so why would they want to keep either?

Plenty of Oiler fans like both players, and regardless of that why would a fans like or dislike of players have any bearing on what the organization does and does not do?

 

[Fatass]

Two days left to match.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Signing Skinner was a getting high on your own supply signing. Like in a vacuum 3 million for Skinner seems like a good deal...but go beneath the base layer and it makes no sense. First of all, it was purely a luxury signing, didn't fill a need at all and you are bringing in the biggest loser in the entire league to boot.....then at the same time you aren't able to take care of your young homegrown players looking for contracts. Arvidsson still a really good signing...if he can stay healthy!

 

[nturn06]

Oilers do not have the cap room to match.they are at the cap already

In the offseason a team can exceed the cap by 10%, and by matching both they will be under that. Even if they match they have about a month and half to either trade away someone or get a player or two to get a Kucherov type "injury".

 

[yianik]

I don't see how Oilers turn the other cheek and walk away from 2 young players with some apparent upside for a 2nd and 3rd. The compensation is garbage. But I guess they need to look at the cost of creating Cap space as well.

 

[67 others]

Hate to break it to you but 13% is not far and way from 15%

 

[MessierII]

Mark my words... Skinner, as the season progresses, will become the new whipping boy for Oiler fans.

I really, really doubt it.

 

[archangel2]

Oilers are screwed

I don't see how Oilers turn the other cheek and walk away from 2 young players with some apparent upside for a 2nd and 3rd. The compensation is garbage. But I guess they need to look at the cost of creating Cap space as well.

How can the afford them?

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

I'd take Broberg at 4.5+ over Nurse at 9.25.

 

[Dough72]

long thread for a couple of 2-3mil types

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Oilers could trade Ceci to Vancouver for Poolman, then match Holloway and collect compensation for Broberg.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

long thread for a couple of 2-3mil types

It’s august. This is the biggest move that’s happened in weeks.

 

[Treb]

48h hours countdown

Hopefully this spark some moves

 

[bucks_oil]

Assuming Kane is on LTIR until the playoffs seems unlikely given his injury. I think in that scenario they need to trade him. And attach assets to do so.

They aren’t attaching assets to trade Kane. He’s been a model citizen in Edmonton and it was reported just last week that there was a trade market for him.

 

[bucks_oil]

If you got Doug Armstrong interested, these guys have something going for them. Army finds diamonds in the rough with sorcery and magic boards. He'll occasionally take a risk just for the hell of it, but this one seems very calculated. I'm curious what he sees that others don't.

Their upward potential is of much less value to Edmonton if their cap hit is out of whack…. That’s the point. They have value to a contender when as value contracts, not if they have inflated contracts.

StLouis has the luxury of waiting and paying in advance for that future value… that’s the acquisition cost. Edmonton has to dismantle the team to keep them… very different value proposition

They may well exceed $7M in cap value this year, but it still has a real additional cost to Edmonton because of how it negatively impacts the rest of the roster.

 

[bucks_oil]

Signing Skinner was a getting high on your own supply signing. Like in a vacuum 3 million for Skinner seems like a good deal...but go beneath the base layer and it makes no sense. First of all, it was purely a luxury signing, didn't fill a need at all and you are bringing in the biggest loser in the entire league to boot.....then at the same time you aren't able to take care of your young homegrown players looking for contracts. Arvidsson still a really good signing...if he can stay healthy!

Broberg was asking for $1.8, Holloway for 1.2… Friedman reported that… these numbers came from out of the blue(s).

Nobody was expecting they’d shown enough for this to be a real threat. To that extent, t’s very well played by Armstrong… you can’t really blame Jackson or Skinner for this.

 

[BleedBlue14]

They aren’t attaching assets to trade Kane. He’s been a model citizen in Edmonton and it was reported just last week that there was a trade market for him.

Who can afford him that realistically wouldn’t be on his NTC once he’s out of the NMC portion? The assumption is you have to move him with no salary coming back.