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Confirmed with Link: Stepan and Raanta for Arizona 2017 7th Overall and DeAngelo Mod Post #286

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Krams said:
Thanks for not coming over to brag, we deserve it. :laugh:
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Brag?

Most of the neutral trade board said we won this trade. And i agree.

A Stepan who will be declining in the 4 years, a backup who was leaving after this year, for hopefully a 21 year old future offensive star on defense, and a top prospect in the draft.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
The next couple of weeks most certainly will determine if thats the view we should have in general for this team moving forward - Im not talking about this deal in a vacuum.

And for the people who get giddy about top 10 picks, the reality is we will be lucky if said player develops into a player as good as Stepan.
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Or we could hit a home run and grab an actual star player. So it goes both ways. Plus Step is getting older anyway, sucks to have to trade him but it's smart team management to stay competitive continuously over the years. Moves like this has kept the Hawks a top team for years and years.
 
FLYLine27 said:
Brag?

Most of the neutral trade board said we won this trade. And i agree.

A Stepan who will be declining in the 4 years, a backup who was leaving after this year, for hopefully a 21 year old future offensive star on defense, and a top prospect in the draft.
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Let's be real here. Arizona also got what they needed. They got a good 27 year old center who can play a 200' game and play in all situations. he has a lot of experience both in the NHL, playoffs and on the world stage in the Olympics. They didn't need another high end prospect.

I think the trade probably worked out pretty well for both sides.
 
You guys will enjoy DeAngelo. Very good puck moving odman. Has an edge to his game, too, which is rare for his size. All the talk of him being a head case is from his days back in Tampa. He was hard to see leave, that's for sure.

Good luck moving forward and hope the guy you want is avail at 7.
 
NYR Viper said:
Let's be real here. Arizona also got what they needed. They got a good 27 year old center who can play a 200' game and play in all situations. he has a lot of experience both in the NHL, playoffs and on the world stage in the Olympics. They didn't need another high end prospect.

I think the trade probably worked out pretty well for both sides.
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Absolutely 100% agree. I'm on board that I think it was a very fair trade for both teams, what they call a good hockey trade :)
 
XX said:
DeAngelo can easily go end to end and was outscoring OEL at one point. You guys will love him.
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Wow that is high praise. Come preseason we may have a few reasons to get excited around here. Thank you.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
I'll reserve judgement on this trade until we see what happens the next couple of weeks with the draft/free agency.

It's the first indication (along with the Girardi buyout), that Gorton is jettisoning the old guard and building towards the future. That's a good thing.

At the same time, the Rangers just gave away a very capable 27 year old 2-way center, and a very very good backup for a pick and a defenseman who has not yet established himself as an NHL'er. It's risky.

Its all about a defined direction on where the team is going to go. This is more of a cap dump/ (dare I say it) rebuilding type of move. I'll be happy if the Rangers dont half-ass it. If this is the direction the Rangers are going, I'd be happy to see more of the old guard leave.
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I hear what you're saying. And I love Stepan. But this move had to be made if you ask me. The team desperately needs young talent and cap flexibility. This move gives them that. They needed to shake up a core that was stagnant. This move did that. They desperately needs young talent. This move does that.
 
SingnBluesOnBroadway said:
I hear what you're saying. And I love Stepan. But this move had to be made if you ask me. The team desperately needs young talent and cap flexibility. This move gives them that. They needed to shake up a core that was stagnant. This move did that. They desperately needs young talent. This move does that.
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And now we desperately need a #1 center.
 
Jeez Stepan already has a Coyotes avatar on Twitter. He is a good guy and will be missed.
 
I think some overvaluing stepan a bit. It was a very fair trade. We all know stepan's good qualities which will be missed but his flaws are also apparent. I mean first off the guy is slow as hell and he even said he started to lose steam toward the end which isn't something you want to hear from a 27 year old who still has 4 years on a fairly big cap hit and the NTC that kicks in. He isn't a guy who is all of a sudden gonna be a 65 point center who is good on the pp. We will miss his defense and Pk most.
 
FLYLine27 said:
Or we could hit a home run and grab an actual star player. So it goes both ways. Plus Step is getting older anyway, sucks to have to trade him but it's smart team management to stay competitive continuously over the years. Moves like this has kept the Hawks a top team for years and years.
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Kane, Keith and Toews have kept the Hawks competitive all these years.

All I'll say is that I like the assets that were returned but I was hoping for more, especially with Raanta involved.
 
XX said:
There's a thread here on our own board about DeAngelo and his potential: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2356713

A good number of us viewed him as the second coming of Yandle. He is arguably ahead of Yandle's development curve already.
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Wow, a lot of high priase from him in that thread.

We will probably have to post that link a few times for all the posters who don't really know much about him and are bashing him him being bit immature.
 
Synergy27 said:
Kane, Keith and Toews have kept the Hawks competitive all these years.

All I'll say is that I like the assets that were returned but I was hoping for more, especially with Raanta involved.
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The depth I would argue was a huge part of their success as well.
 
SR said:
You guys will enjoy DeAngelo. Very good puck moving odman. Has an edge to his game, too, which is rare for his size. All the talk of him being a head case is from his days back in Tampa. He was hard to see leave, that's for sure.

Good luck moving forward and hope the guy you want is avail at 7.
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Appreciate your input. You guys said we'd love Yandle too, and I certainly did at least.
 
SR said:
You guys will enjoy DeAngelo. Very good puck moving odman. Has an edge to his game, too, which is rare for his size. All the talk of him being a head case is from his days back in Tampa. He was hard to see leave, that's for sure.

Good luck moving forward and hope the guy you want is avail at 7.
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Appreciate the feedback. Seems like he will fill a need for this team based on your description.
 
NickyFotiu said:
Wow a debate on whether he was untouchable. Maybe Ranger fans jumped the gun. I'm optimistic.
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If he was homegrown I'd say he'd have been untouchable. As it stands, the Coyotes have Kyle Wood in the pipeline and got DeAngelo with house money. Stepan fills a need. Rangers get cheap ELC talent.
 
SR said:
You guys will enjoy DeAngelo. Very good puck moving odman. Has an edge to his game, too, which is rare for his size. All the talk of him being a head case is from his days back in Tampa. He was hard to see leave, that's for sure.

Good luck moving forward and hope the guy you want is avail at 7.
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Thanks Man. Unfortunetly too many people are talking about his mistakes as a kid instead of his talent and potential. Ive hears a few coyotes fans say that he was very good in Arizona and behaved maturely. You will like stepan. I'm not gonna lie he has flaws but defensively and leadership wise he will help your young guys a lot
 
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