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Hunter Gathers said:
I don't want a homophobic racist on my team. I'll take a cheap or dirty player. Or a guy who says some borderline **** to get under someone's skin. DeAngelo is an awful human being. He shouldn't have the privilege of wearing this jersey.

Rarely will I ever object to a player on the team I root for. I've defended all sorts of bad characters. But DeAngelo's outright bigotry is just part of a pattern of character flaws he has.

If he was just a dirtbag? Cool. All the merrier. Attaching his massive personality flaws and racism? Blech.
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Can you be specific? I would like to know what he said to decide for myself. Thanks in advance.
 
NickyFotiu said:
I don't want a horrible human being as a Ranger either but what did he say that makes him a horrible human being? I would like to decide for myself.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sarnia-s-anthony-deangelo-suspended-for-slur-directed-at-teammate-232527684.html

It's the second time this season the 18-year-old has been suspended for contravening the rule which attempts to keep homophobic, racist, sexist, and the other derogatory language used by small minds – out of the game.
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https://www.fiveforhowling.com/2017/1/1/14142204/anthony-deangelo-arizona-coyotes-suspended-three-games-physical-abuse-of-officials

Tampa Bay Lightning organization attributed at least in part to “attitude issues”, and a pattern is beginning to emerge. At best, DeAngelo seems to let his emotions get the best of him in high-pressure situations. At worst, DeAngelo has systemic character problems that likely played a role in Tampa Bay’s decision to cut ties with their former first round draft choice.
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jas said:
There are temporary solutions in some short term UFAs.
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true.

theres also jtmiller back to center.

mika
miller
hayes

isnt terrible

i still believe you keep miller on the wing and strengthen the center of the ice. good teams who win have strength up the middle.

im still drooling over the thought of a rejuvenated matt duchene playing here.

duchene
mika
hayes

works for me.
 
you guys do understand that plenty of players before him had character issues

hell before twitter you wouldnt even know about peoples view points

some of you people need to wake upyou think some of the players on the 94 rangers werent complete *******s? never used a racial slur? well if you think that you are just down right wrong.


the kid can flat out play hockey, i could care less if he was an *******


this is a business and if he can produce and be a top 4 defenseman are you really going to care if hes a ********?
 
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NickyFotiu said:
Can you be specific? I would like to know what he said to decide for myself. Thanks in advance.
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Nick I get your point. It's not right to witch hunt someone for some opinions.

My problem is I think the reason he's been bouncing around isn't because of his character issues
 
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offdacrossbar said:
fair enough but...

you've got mika and hayes now as roster centerman. nieves waiting to earn the 4C spot.

step and lindy both gone leaves a huge hole in the middle.

unless we draft an impact kid in this draft who can play atleast the 2C, not sure where this move leaves us. there has to be a pivot deal pending.

do we offer the 21 OA plus a player/prospect for duchene ? would a return of holden and ryan graves be enough ?

what would we need to add to the 21OA to get back matt ? or is it the 7OA plus graves ?

is there a deal there ?
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How often does the #7 pick see the NHL in year 1, let alone play in the top 6? That's got to be 1 in a 100, no?
 
GregSirico said:
https://sports.yahoo.com/news/sarnia-s-anthony-deangelo-suspended-for-slur-directed-at-teammate-232527684.html



https://www.fiveforhowling.com/2017/1/1/14142204/anthony-deangelo-arizona-coyotes-suspended-three-games-physical-abuse-of-officials
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Thanks for the links but I do not see what he said to be suspended. I hate racism but before I crucify this guy I would like to know what he said and it what context. As far as the ref push suspension goes he earned the suspension but its not the worst thing we have seen by any stretch. A poster above said his constant bigotry. Where is his constant bigotry?
 
Fire Gorton said:
Wouldn't Shattenkirk be a bit redundant now? Hopefully we still resign Smith.
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yep.

no need for shatty now

we just saved a ton of money and got a younger guy who can do similar things.

a defense with both shatty and deangelo would be scary for a number of reasons.

this doesnt really address the lack of a rh partner for 27

the 7OA and 21OA does sound nice though and could be parlayed into something very sexy.
 
Fire Gorton said:
Wouldn't Shattenkirk be a bit redundant now? Hopefully we still resign Smith.
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I'm not sure we sign either. I'll spitball here. The Rangers have enough cap space to trade Marc Staal, retain, and take back Demers and Bjugstad. And, the length of those deal willbe less than signing Smith or Shattenkirk, while dumping Staal.
 
mrhockey193195 said:
Christ. People criticize Step for being too loose and not showing intensity. Then he shows how ****ing badly he wants to win and how into the game he is by telling Henrik to calm down, and fans get on his ass. Then in his exit interviews he talks about how he was terrible and he needs to be better - you know, ACCOUNTABILITY - and then fans rip him for not being confident? What the ****?
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Lol, I get it the frustration. But the team is going nowhere. They need a new direction and some younger faces. It's a time, place and value thing,IMO. I think our front office guys have a pretty good sense of things and felt this was a good move. Time will tell.
 
offdacrossbar said:
true.

theres also jtmiller back to center.

mika
miller
hayes

isnt terrible

i still believe you keep miller on the wing and strengthen the center of the ice. good teams who win have strength up the middle.
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Then why not move JT to center - it's his natural position, a more important position, and now a position of need.
 
ReggieDunlop68 said:
Nick I get your point. It's not right to witch hunt someone for some opinions.

My problem is I think the reason he's been bouncing around isn't because of his character issues
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LOL I do not even have a point. I honestly would just like to judge him for myself. I see some very hard stuff being thrown around. I want to be fair. I can not do that unless I can see for myself.

If he is really a racist then I do not want him.
If he is really a uncontrollable idiot then I do not want him.

If he made some mistakes and has learned from them than I'm okay with him being a Ranger.
 
DeAngelo was an A+ citizen with the Coyotes, official push aside. I wouldn't worry about him being a turd of a person.
 
NickyFotiu said:
Thanks for the links but I do not see what he said to be suspended. I hate racism but before I crucify this guy I would like to know what he said and it what context. As far as the ref push suspension goes he earned the suspension but its not the worst thing we have seen by any stretch. A poster above said his constant bigotry. Where is his constant bigotry?
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There's multiple tweets of his I saw screenshotted from 2013 where he was calling people gay and dropping the f word. You can chalk some of it up to being immature but clearly it's something more than a once or twice occurring issue.
 
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