Post-Game Talk: STAYING ALIVE Leafs Win 2-1

[Rob Brown]

Lol

Lmao

 

[Arzak]

This whole Florida trying to injure our players every shift thing needs to stop already.

Dubas' job might be in jeopardy anyway, just call the bullshit out please.

Players safety association waiting for carrier/walking ending neck massage to step in and make an example of the attacker.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

 

[Hellcat]

That moment Gudas absolutely drilled Kampf without the puck in sight then turned around expecting a swarm and there was nothing. Then at the end of the game there would have been nothing when Rielly got drilled after the buzzer if McCabe hadn't been nearby.

I still don't understand that play, everyone in the rink but the refs apparently knew that as soon as Kampft touched the puck the whistle would be blown, yet Gudas gets a 30 to 40 ft run at Kampft and that is not boarding or roughing? Knowing that the play would be whistled as soon as Kampft took possession and knowing the distance Gudas traveled, there was clearly a case for intent to injure. Did Maurice's 5 and 1 hand gesture in the 1st game have it's desired effect? Are the ref's intentionally not calling obvious PIM's? Looks like, in this case, the ref's had it in their mind the Panthers were going on the PP and nothing was going to change that. I guess that sort of violent predatory hit on an unsuspecting player is within the rules and Brodie holding a stick is a worse infraction so they call it.



Rule 41 - Boarding
41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently or dangerously. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee. There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule. Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”

41.2 Minor Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent.

41.3 Major Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent (see 41.5).

41.4 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by boarding.

 

[horner]

Yup. I have too much Leaf PTSD to buy in just yet. But won't it be great to witness a rare historic comeback?

The good thing is we haven't played our best yet and Bob's horseshoes up his ass maybe coming undone first goal huge bounce and marners goal.
We finally played like we did in the TB series . We got in his face.

 

[thewave]

Fairy-tale comeback series win! Lets go Leafs! Leafs in 7! Wooooooooooooooo

 

[Dayjobdave]

Finally - a game where the Leafs showed playoff level urgency. They need to keep that up.

I think Austons wrist is bad again and they are freezing him. He still has his wheels but the shot doesn’t have his accuracy.

The team showed a lot of heart and desire to go with their skill last night.

 

[Hellcat]

You be the judge...



I played the video to make sure the tweet was accurate, thinking it was an over zealous Leaf fan exaggerating but he is right that is when the first whistle blew.

 

[thewave]

You be the judge...

Player safety and officiating may as well be run by AI at this point. You're getting to that point that it's so bad it'd be better to let the machine do it.

 

[93gilmour93]

 

[Rob Brown]

You be the judge...

Makar's was considerably longer after the whistle.

 

[thewave]

Makar's was considerably longer after the whistle.

He heard that whistle and did it anyways. It was cheap AF

 

[Hellcat]

Makar's was considerably longer after the whistle.

I added to my OP, take a look at the still screen shot and then watch the video with sound, Gudas hit was at least 2 steamboats after the whistle.

 

[Rob Brown]

He heard that whistle and did it anyways. It was cheap AF

Oh I agree, I just don't think it was as late. Gudas also charged a bit IMO.

It's whatever, Kampf seems to be fine and Gudas won't get any sort of supplemental discipline so no point us worrying about it.

 

[thewave]

We won despite Holl. Just had to toss that in. Holl Fing sucks. He belongs in some Euro league.

 

[Nineteen67]

Player safety and officiating may as well be run by AI at this point. You're getting to that point that it's so bad it'd be better to let the machine do it.

What is wrong with it? Too hard?

 

[Nineteen67]

Oh I agree, I just don't think it was as late. Gudas also charged a bit IMO.

It's whatever, Kampf seems to be fine and Gudas won't get any sort of supplemental discipline so no point us worrying about it.

Let’s hope that hit doesn’t get a suspension. The league is getting too soft as it is.

If DOPS reviews any hit it would be the Montour hit on Rielly at the end of the game.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Are we talking about refs missing calls and dirty plays again.

We need a injection of good wrestling drama:

 

[Nineteen67]

I still don't understand that play, everyone in the rink but the refs apparently knew that as soon as Kampft touched the puck the whistle would be blown, yet Gudas gets a 30 to 40 ft run at Kampft and that is not boarding or roughing? Knowing that the play would be whistled as soon as Kampft took possession and knowing the distance Gudas traveled, there was clearly a case for intent to injure. Did Maurice's 5 and 1 hand gesture in the 1st game have it's desired effect? Are the ref's intentionally not calling obvious PIM's? Looks like, in this case, the ref's had it in their mind the Panthers were going on the PP and nothing was going to change that. I guess that sort of violent predatory hit on an unsuspecting player is within the rules and Brodie holding a stick is a worse infraction so they call it.



Rule 41 - Boarding
41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently or dangerously. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee. There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule. Any unnecessary contact with a player playing the puck on an obvious “icing” or “off-side” play which results in that player hitting or impacting the boards is “boarding” and must be penalized as such. In other instances where there is no contact with the boards, it should be treated as “charging.”

41.2 Minor Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a minor penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent.

41.3 Major Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a major penalty, based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards, to a player guilty of boarding an opponent (see 41.5).

41.4 Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by boarding.

How does Gudas know there was a delayed penalty? The referee that’s 5 ft from the play doesn’t have his arm up.
This is simply a hard player finishing his check.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Player safety and officiating may as well be run by AI at this point. You're getting to that point that it's so bad it'd be better to let the machine do it.

 

[LeafsandSharksfan]

Finally starting clogging the net and blocking entries. Offence wasn’t there as much but some defensive backbone.

And we avoid the “haven’t won a Round 2 game since 2004” joke which is what really matters.

 

[justashadowof]

What doesn't seem to occur to the pacificists among us and the Leafs' brain trust is that once the authority (NHL's DOPS) responsible for fair and stern punishment isn't fair, there is only one response possible: frontier justice. What you're going to say is "the Leafs will get the worst penalties on the ice and an important player or two will get suspensions if they go that route." Yes they will but the message will be sent to the opposition, to the league and to the universe. At the very least, Florida shouldn't get out of this series fresh as a daisy. There should at least be some cost to their eventual series victory. It's shameful that at various times during the play of this series my Leafs' brain can't help but visualize Florida as the hockey juggernaut and this collection of players called the Toronto Maple Leafs in their 7th consecutive playoffs as upstarts.

 

[Gallagbi]

Itd be interesting to see a Gudas comparison to the Hyman suspension.

Gudas is after the whistle, McAvoy is after a pass. Gudas is a board and a charge though, Hyman's was clean other than lateness.

 

[sunstersun]

Since when exactly? Matthews still has more goals and points in THESE playoffs than Nylander, while being about 200% better defensively.
Willie had a good game but holy overreaction batman.

Well Matthews plays PP1 and doesn't have to deal with Tavares.

 

[justashadowof]

Player safety and officiating may as well be run by AI at this point. You're getting to that point that it's so bad it'd be better to let the machine do it.

AI doesn't know who's alive or dead at this point and makes up stuff when it doesn't have the answer to a question. It might be perfect for the job.