Confirmed with Link: Stastny (50% ret.) for Foley, 2018 1st, cond. 2020 4th

[cbcwpg]

Whether or not Stastny ends up being just a rental remains to be seen, but we could end up keeping him for the long term as well.

Stastny is 32 years old and yes he currently had a $7,000,000 per year contract, but he also signed that in his prime when he was 28. There is a chance the Jets could end up signing him on an older player winding down discount if he likes playing here. Dunno.

 

[libertarian]

What if the Jets don’t even make playoffs next year? You HAVE to go when you have a chance this good.

While I agree with your point about going for it when that window is open and the Jets window is not wide open. I think the odds of the Jets not making the PO's next year are very low. The Jets are not the Oilers which are top heavy with no supporting cast. Unlike the Oilers the Jets are built right. I believe the Jets are built to be contenders for many years to come.

 

[Whileee]

It’s worth remembering that even the players prior to the season starting were saying things like “this is the year.” That sort of talk never happened in previous seasons. These guys have spent their lives playing hockey and they have a pretty innate sense of what the circumstances of the team around them are. They knew this accumulation of talent is different than what we’ve seen in past seasons - they could sense this was a good team that had real potential.

#RiseTogether wasn't an accidental PR tagline. The entire organization is focused on competing now. I'd bet even Thomson has been chomping at the bit to see the Jets go for it.

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

I think that Hendricks contributions to this team are way overstated here. We have other glue, and he is a detriment on the ice. He has a heart of gold and will give his all for his teammates - I'll give him that. But I think that we have the same or better record in the standings without him What is he going to say about the trade? It's not like he has any say in it or can do anything about it, of course he will support it.

The one way the whole Stastny thing can really come back to burn us is if we have an early exit, and he goes back and re-signs with the Blues.

The way I see the Stastny deal - The price was market price. If we make an early exit and don't re-sign him, it wasn't worth it. If we have an early exit and we re-sign him, it was worth it. If we make it to the second round but he doesn't re-sign with us, it is on the bubble of being worth it or not. If he goes back to the Blues in that scenario, then it wasn't worth it. If we make a deep run, into the third round/final then it was worth it even if he goes elsewhere including the Blues. That would give us a lot of playoff experience to build off of for next year.

I can see why Chevy would want to take that gamble. Have to give him credit for rolling the dice on this one.

 

[Tommigun]

While I agree with your point about going for it when that window is open and the Jets window is not wide open. I think the odds of the Jets not making the PO's next year are very low. The Jets are not the Oilers which are top heavy with no supporting cast. Unlike the Oilers the Jets are built right. I believe the Jets are built to be contenders for many years to come.

Sure, but what if several vets regress a lot next year? Or if several key injuries happen just before playoffs? Or if we don't get home ice advantage? Or if we can't fit all the key pieces under the cap, effectively giving us just two shots at it? Or if Statsny is a more valuable piece than we even realise at this point?

There's so many variables, so why artificially weaken your chances on a hypothesis that next year would be an even better chance?

I think Jets fans are just so used to perpetual rebuilding that they just can't let go when it's time to contend!

 

[Aavco Cup]

I don't think it was an overpay. I thing it was sticker price.

 

[DRW204]

While I agree with your point about going for it when that window is open and the Jets window is not wide open. I think the odds of the Jets not making the PO's next year are very low. The Jets are not the Oilers which are top heavy with no supporting cast. Unlike the Oilers the Jets are built right. I believe the Jets are built to be contenders for many years to come.

sure, but this team could suffer regression/injuries and other central teams can progress (i dont think CHI will be as bad as this year with a healthy Crawford). The team is excellent right now, we can afford to dabble a bit in the draft-pick piggybank to improve our roster even more for a long SCF run.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I don't think it was an overpay. I thing it was sticker price.

Agreed. Look what Nash got.

 

[Whileee]

Sure, but what if several vets regress a lot next year? Or if several key injuries happen just before playoffs? Or if we don't get home ice advantage? Or if we can't fit all the key pieces under the cap, effectively giving us just two shots at it? Or if Statsny is a more valuable piece than we even realise at this point?

There's so many variables, so why artificially weaken your chances on a hypothesis that next year would be an even better chance?

I think Jets fans are just so used to perpetual rebuilding that they just can't let go when it's time to contend!

The Jets are doing everything you'd expect from a team that realizes it's time to contend.

Bought out Stuart.
Traded down to preserve all roster players in the XD.
Signed two UFAs to fill key gaps.
Traded futures for a top end rental.
Didn't trade their own pending UFAs, especially Hutch.

 

[Tommigun]

I don't think it was an overpay. I thing it was sticker price.

I thought it was cheap. Look at the going rates for several tiers lower players. He wants to win, even waived his NTC. The 4-0 victory over the Blues on their home ice sealed the deal, probably the most important win of the season.

 

[Tommigun]

sure, but this team could suffer regression/injuries and other central teams can progress (i dont think CHI will be as bad as this year with a healthy Crawford). The team is excellent right now, we can afford to dabble a bit in the draft-pick piggybank to improve our roster even more for a long SCF run.

Yeah, what would the point be in making the playoffs every year for say 10 consecutive years (which would still be extremely hard) and exiting in round 1, if we can grab a few cups even if it shortened our window by a couple of years. This is the year! This is the time!

 

[Tommigun]

The Jets are doing everything you'd expect from a team that realizes it's time to contend.

Bought out Stuart.
Traded down to preserve all roster players in the XD.
Signed two UFAs to fill key gaps.
Traded futures for a top end rental.
Didn't trade their own pending UFAs, especially Hutch.

I said Jets *FANS*, not Winnipeg Jets. In reply to the posters who would rather keep on rebuilding and contend some other year.

 

[Whileee]

I said Jets *FANS*, not Winnipeg Jets. In reply to the posters who would rather keep on rebuilding and contend some other year.

Got it... Edited the post. I agree with you.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

I think the Stastny trade was fair market value.

What I found interesting is why the Blues GM didn't shop him around a bit? Perhaps there wasn't time. Or perhaps it was to send a message to GMGM? Don't torpedo other GMs plans if you're not interested in a player?

Maybe I just like conspiracy theories?

 

[DRW204]

I think the Stastny trade was fair market value.

What I found interesting is why the Blues GM didn't shop him around a bit? Perhaps there wasn't time. Or perhaps it was to send a message to GMGM? Don't torpedo other GMs plans if you're not interested in a player?

Maybe I just like conspiracy theories?

NTC might have had something to do with it?

 

[Aavco Cup]

The Athletic paywall warning

Why the Blues said goodbye to Paul Stastny and what the...

 

[Howard Chuck]

No concrete source, but apparently Wheeler offered to give Stastny #26 since it was his father's number. Stastny's going to wear #25 instead.

How can you not love Wheeler. He is the perfect leader for this team, until he passes all that class over to Scheifele eventually.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I think the Stastny trade was fair market value.

What I found interesting is why the Blues GM didn't shop him around a bit? Perhaps there wasn't time. Or perhaps it was to send a message to GMGM? Don't torpedo other GMs plans if you're not interested in a player?

Maybe I just like conspiracy theories?

Did you listen to Chevy talk yesterday. If so there is some real doubt that they werent close on Brassard. It never got to the talking to him about his NTC...

Leads me to believe the Brassard deal was never that close. If you believe the Eastern Media we were in on everybody but if you believe Chevy... He specifically said there were tons of rumors that werent even close to being true. I believe Brassard is one of those

 

[Howard Chuck]

So stand pat Chevy makes a splash and people are worried about getting wet? They just made themselves better to make a deeper push into the playoffs but we're worried about the price it takes to play? The opportunity to do something this year is worth it, Stastny leaving doesn't change that. The experience it could buy for the Jets is well worth it regardless, lots of pieces left to fill whatever perceived void it might leave. Welcome to contending.

Damned if you do, damned if don't with some I guess

Yes, the way I look at it is that if he doesn't stay (and most people do....) this is pushing us further into the playoffs and makes us an actual contender this year. But also, if he only stays this year, we are buying time for Laine, Connor, Roslo, Ehlers etc to get another year better with playoff experience to boot. So we would be ready next year, with or without him.

I can't see a downside. We were supposed to contend next year with what we have, but we just jumped ahead a year.

Win/Win imo.

 

[Tommigun]

How can you not love Wheeler. He is the perfect leader for this team, until he passes all that class over to Scheifele eventually.

He is pure class. I love Wheeler, Buff, Laine and Scheifele so much!

 

[Tommigun]

Yes, the way I look at it is that if he doesn't stay (and most people do....) this is pushing us further into the playoffs and makes us an actual contender this year. But also, if he only stays this year, we are buying time for Laine, Connor, Roslo, Ehlers etc to get another year better with playoff experience to boot. So we would be ready next year, with or without him.

I can't see a downside. We were supposed to contend next year with what we have, but we just jumped ahead a year.

Win/Win imo.

Yeah, the deeper we go THIS year the more experience we will have NEXT year. It just makes perfect sense to try to go deep already, absolutely no point in waiting.

 

[BB88]

Would think that getting Stastny to waive and a long playoff run would help Jets in the future in regards of NMC's and players waiving them to go to Winnipeg.
Winning changes things.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Would think that getting Stastny to waive and a long playoff run would help Jets in the future in regards of NMC's and players waiving them to go to Winnipeg.
Winning changes things.

It was interesting to hear a Stastny say he only had a few teams he would even consider waiving to go to. And the Jets were one of those teams.

This is different than him being asked and then after consideration warmed up to the idea. The Jets were already on his mind

 

[Ducky10]

It was interesting to hear a Stastny say he only had a few teams he would even consider waiving to go to. And the Jets were one of those teams.

This is different than him being asked and then after consideration warmed up to the idea. The Jets were already on his mind

The best players want to win, I've never really believed it matters where for the large majority of them. If a player's main focus is winning, they would be nuts not to want to come to Winnipeg.

 

[BB88]

It was interesting to hear a Stastny say he only had a few teams he would even consider waiving to go to. And the Jets were one of those teams.

This is different than him being asked and then after consideration warmed up to the idea. The Jets were already on his mind

Like I said winning changes things, Jets have gained attention with their play this season, do well in the playoffs and they could become a very wanted place to play.
Which can lead to all kind of bonuses.