Confirmed with Link: Stastny (50% ret.) for Foley, 2018 1st, cond. 2020 4th

[bustamente]

Stastny>Brassard.

Even though I was not on board with what it took to get Stastny his all around game is better than Bassards

 

[kittiecarlyle]

Too soon for Stastny Cup Playoffs?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

In all likelyhood Stastny would need to take a discount to play here. If we see some success bringing him back will likely be something both parties will be interested in.

I think term would be an issue. What is he likely to get on the UFA market at 32?

 

[ulf]

I'm only read to page 4 so far. Great job Chevy. Who thought of Stastny and what a coup.
Hello world says Stastny...I'll go play for that team

 

[AlphaLackey]

As we saw today, there is always the possibility of trades. Much rather have him for now and then see what makes sense for the big picture.

Spectacularly built roster really, nothing goes perfectly but factoring in the challenges Winnipeg has, the future looks as good as it could be I believe.

The other thing to consider is Winnipeg may certainly now be able to emulate " The Chicago Way", borrowing from Sean Connery.

Chicago ( and other teams ) were able to mange cap pressure by being an attractive option for minimum cost free agents from Europe. Having a team as good as the Jets and being able to say offer a realistic chance to play could influence decisions like that. That would allow Chevy to trade a big contract player, get future assets , save money, and get a low cost good player to slot in. Something to consider.

Aren't you basically describing the original "Moneyball" tactic? Pay market for elite players and fill the rest with cost-efficient signings.

 

[kittiecarlyle]

Every GM gets judged according to draft success or failure. That is always a large part of the assessment - except if it doesn't happen to support your narrative or bias.

Again ( sigh ) some not very astute post credits Hawerchuk for drafting Scheifele . Repeating must make it correct,yes?

 

[Daximus]

I think term would be an issue. What is he likely to get on the UFA market at 32?

Hard to say. Again whatever success he has with us will determine what he could be worth on UFA market. Who knows he could really fall in love with this team as well and decide to sign here for 3+ years at a chepaer rate.

 

[Gm0ney]

Stastny is a huge add - if Ehlers-Stastny-Laine click and Lowry comes back, the Jets will be even more of a handful than they currently are. 3 scoring lines that would basically each be the first or second line on any other team in the league and an elite shutdown line that grinds the opposition's top lines to a bloody pulp.

Here's Stasny vs. Little, just for fun:

 

[Jets 31]

How were you guys posting stuff , when the trade was announced i couldn't even read any posts , i couldn't connect to Hf boards all afternoon . GREAT TRADE Chevy , I'm so pumped and f*** you Vegas and Pittsburgh , we's a comin .

 

[kittiecarlyle]

Aren't you basically describing the original "Moneyball" tactic? Pay market for elite players and fill the rest with cost-efficient signings.

Kind of , you could make that comparison. Basically though it is an avenue some teams ( a fair number ) have been able to utilize.

Till now Winnipeg really wasn't one of them, and not bemoaning that, as I have always maintained the Jets have legitimate challenges.

However Winnipeg is now a true factor, realistic Cup contenders. Dynamic roster and talent so the Jets are in a handful of teams that can say that. The allure of great cities like Chicago and New York, the weather of California and Florida et al can't be matched but a regular spot on a team poised for long term success? Hell yeah, that is definitely something the Jets can counter with.

So, not saying to do this BUT Winnipeg could trade a player(s) with a sizable salary hit to make cap room for in this instance Paul Stastny or a similar costly addition.

It would or will allow more flexibility and less restrictions to manage the team and salary cap. Again not saying to trade these players but Kulikov, Perreault and Myers could be options to make room under the cap.

It will be if it isn't already another tool Chevy will be able to use, and I completely trust him in running, building and managing this team. Short term pain for what now is long term gained.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

Again ( sigh ) some not very astute post credits Hawerchuk for drafting Scheifele . Repeating must make it correct,yes?

Agreed. Hawerchuk may have weighed in on the issue & provided some insight, but he shouldn't get the credit for the drafting of Scheifele.

Connections an NHL team has to past players, coaches, etc, are a routine part of due diligence when looking at players.

Had we had the #1 pick in 2014, would Hawerchuk have gotten the credit for us selecting Ekblad?

Should Wheeler get credit for the Stastny trade? Chevy mentioned in his interview our captain was informed a deal was on the table. Wheeler, Stastny & Oshie were line back in the Sochi Olympics in 2014. Asking Blake to weigh in doesn't mean this deal is any less Chevys.

Chevy did look pleased a punch in the press briefing, smiling from ear to ear.

 

[AstrophysicalJet]

Welcome to the Peg Statsny

Oh, man do we mean business!

 

[kittiecarlyle]

How were you guys posting stuff , when the trade was announced i couldn't even read any posts , i couldn't connect to Hf boards all afternoon . GREAT TRADE Chevy , I'm so pumped and **** you Vegas and Pittsburgh , we's a comin .

It was a challenge, had to be determined. Also chrome seemed to be worse, firefox slightly better.

 

[Daximus]

It was a challenge, had to be determined. Also chrome seemed to be worse, firefox slightly better.

I couldn't get on at all on mobile. Had the laptop going all day.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Again ( sigh ) some not very astute post credits Hawerchuk for drafting Scheifele . Repeating must make it correct,yes?

Hawerchuk's recommendation played a part. Not sure it was all that great. The alternative was apparently Couturier. That wouldn't have been too bad either.

I don't like to judge a GM based on any specific moves he makes or doesn't make, or even the sum of those moves. I think the way to judge him is by the team he assembles and the system that supports it. Stanley Cup contender. The Moose may have dropped out of Calder Cup contention with all the callups but they are a very strong AHL team also. And then we have more prospects in Jr, NCAA and Europe.

He also appears to have built a structure of development people and support people for the players in that system.

Honestly, I don't see any way not to give him an 'A'.

With that said I will still criticize some of the things he has done or not done. The whole Stanley thing was a mistake, IMO. He probably should have done something to build a better string of D prospects. He may yet fix that last.

It isn't necessary for him to do everything the way I would want him to in order to get a positive rating from me. It is just that end result that matters. And when I see what some other GM's are doing I am thankful that we have Chevy.

 

[Dayofthedogs]

Holy f***ing smokes. Home run.

Our 4th line center is going to be top 30 (if not top 5) in shot metrics and second line rate at (5vs5) scoring and put up those numbers playing stupid tough minutes.

I guess everyone was right, Adam Lowry is a 4th line center on a contender but jeezus he's a 2C on a few other teams this season.

Jets rolling deep a C

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Hard to say. Again whatever success he has with us will determine what he could be worth on UFA market. Who knows he could really fall in love with this team as well and decide to sign here for 3+ years at a chepaer rate.

Yup, could happen. I don't he is likely to expect a raise. He hasn't been earning his present contract for a couple of years, if ever. How much of a cut will he accept though?

 

[kittiecarlyle]

Agreed. Hawerchuk may have weighed in on the issue & provided some insight, but he shouldn't get the credit for the drafting of Scheifele.

Connections an NHL team has to past players, coaches, etc, are a routine part of due diligence when looking at players.

Had we had the #1 pick in 2014, would Hawerchuk have gotten the credit for us selecting Ekblad?

Should Wheeler get credit for the Stastny trade? Chevy mentioned in his interview our captain was informed a deal was on the table. Wheeler, Stastny & Oshie were line back in the Sochi Olympics in 2014. Asking Blake to weigh in doesn't mean this deal is any less Chevys.

Chevy did look pleased a punch in the press briefing, smiling from ear to ear.

Dale addressed this a couple of weeks ago. He said he gets WAY too much credit for his influence on the selection.

He said the Jets had determined they were going to pick him and wanted his thoughts, and asked him "what are we missing?" because he seemed to be less regarded by a lot than by them.

So heaping the praise to Ducky instead the Jets & Chevy is pretty indicative of the bias and motives of some. By the way Dave Poulin was with Toronto at the time of the draft and he has said he/they had Scheifele "much higher" than where he was picked.

He should be pleased I sure as hell am

 

[Daximus]

Yup, could happen. I don't he is likely to expect a raise. He hasn't been earning his present contract for a couple of years, if ever. How much of a cut will he accept though?

Someone would have to do the math and just a quick glance I think we can afford aroud $5 mil for 3 years. A lot of it depends on where the cap goes next season.

 

[ulf]

Page 10.....this story keeps getting better. Thx to Wheeler for being "common ground"
I like Ehlers Copp Laine
Connor Chief Wheels
I want Tanev for hustle, Lowry Perrault Ststny Little Roslo and Armia but where do they all fit WHOHOO GJG

 

[kittiecarlyle]

Will wear #25, sure Thomas and Alexander Steen will like that

 

[Daximus]

We are getting a lot of hype now.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Someone would have to do the math and just a quick glance I think we can afford aroud $5 mil for 3 years. A lot of it depends on where the cap goes next season.

I was thinking about 4.5x4 but, whatever. The thing is that we can't actually afford either. Chevy would have to move significant salary. He has a number of possible ways to do that.

Trading Trouba could be one but that is only a good thing if the return includes a strong RHD component. Signing Trouba and trading one of Buff or Myers might do it too. I'd be surprised to see Buff traded though. I think he retires a Jet. It is expensive but LTIR'ing Mason might be in the cards. That could help. There are ways it could be done. None of them would go down easily.

 

[Daximus]

I was thinking about 4.5x4 but, whatever. The thing is that we can't actually afford either. Chevy would have to move significant salary. He has a number of possible ways to do that.

Trading Trouba could be one but that is only a good thing if the return includes a strong RHD component. Signing Trouba and trading one of Buff or Myers might do it too. I'd be surprised to see Buff traded though. I think he retires a Jet. It is expensive but LTIR'ing Mason might be in the cards. That could help. There are ways it could be done. None of them would go down easily.

Yeah just take it one day at a time for now and worry about that in the off season.

 

[Georgetown Al]

We are getting a lot of hype now.

We paid our dues...

Jest 1.0

Jets 2.0