Stanley Cup Finals: (WC2) Florida Panthers vs (P1) Vegas Golden Knights | VGK Lead 3-1

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MessierII

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Lol not really have you seen the goals they are scoring??? Bob had a .635 save percentage last night lolol
Fact of the matter is they’ve outplayed every team they’ve faced. The only team to actually give it to them for any stretch has been Edmonton. If Florida loses the next game it’s over. When you’re consistently getting to every goalie you’re just playing that well.
 

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Hits to the head are legal in the serious. How the hit Gudas it isn't a suspension is unreal. The serious is so fixed anyone can tell.
I can also tell that you can't spell series.

It's funny how it suddenly looks like the refs are against you when they occassionally remember to enforce the actual written rules and not the unwritten prison type rules that were usually the order of the day in the previous rounds.
 
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It's now the next day. I still dont understand why a 10 minute was called. And no the game wasn't "out of hand". That hit would have stirred up momentum for the Panthers they could have gotten a goal or two to end the period. And then been down 2-3 heading into the third. It wasn't some kind of impossible feat. Still another 35-40 % of the game left to play. Horrible call by the refs., horrible officiating in game 1 and in game 2.
When refs are repeatedly warning you to stop being a pita in after the whistle activities, it eventually reaches a point where yes, they will throw you out. This isn't anything new.
 

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When’s the last time we’ve seen a fall from grace at a prime age as hard as Ekblad? I mean the whole defense was a joke last night but a couple of years ago Ekblad was on the shortlist of guys we maybe were thinking were Norris potential talents - he was at least on the shortlist of “defenders you’d want to build around”. Young, huge, physical, toolsy and it was coming together on the ice.

Yeas, injuries played a part, especially with the mobility but has the way the game has moved the last few years also rendered his particular toolset basically irrelevant? It’s like if you aren’t mobile or can’t move to at least a certain level - it renders all your physical tools pretty null and void.

And to that - he’s simply regressed not only in terms of mobility but in terms of decision making and processing. Every single thing about Ekblad is just slow and the game seems to have passed him by. He’s a pylon out there.

Is it all the injuries or is his “type” also getting passed by the game? I noticed this with Hedman in last year’s playoffs too and definitely this season - although Hedman has a much more natural excuse of being older and slowing down. But again, I’ve just got images in my head of Hedman being seared by quicker forwards, and not just superstars - his condor like length and Norris level history all for naught.
 
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When’s the last time we’ve seen a fall from grace at a prime age as hard as Ekblad? I mean the whole defense was a joke last night but a couple of years ago Ekblad was on the shortlist of guys we maybe were thinking were Norris potential talents - he was at least on the shortlist of “defenders you’d want to build around”. Young, huge, physical, toolsy and it was coming together on the ice.

Yeas, injuries played a part, especially with the mobility but has the way the game has moved the last few years also rendered his particular toolset basically irrelevant? It’s like if you aren’t mobile or can’t move to at least a certain level - it renders all your physical tools pretty null and void.

And to that - he’s simply regressed not only in terms of mobility but in terms of decision making and processing. Every single thing about Ekblad is just slow and the game seems to have passed him by. He’s a pylon out there.

Is it all the injuries or is his “type” also getting passed by the game? I noticed this with Hedman in last year’s playoffs too and definitely this season - although Hedman has a much more natural excuse of being older and slowing down. But again, I’ve just got images in my head of Hedman being seared by quicker forwards, and not just superstars - his condor like length and Norris level history all for naught.

Yeah, it’s a mixture of him always having been slow af and not that great of a skater plus a Rick DiPietro like barrage of injuries for the past like 3 years. I hope we trade him this off-season. He was actually decent the first 3 rounds but I guess it’s catching up.
 

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I think the league needs to look into immediately beginning the final from now on to avoid this issue, we saw many teams who swept the CF have this problem...even in anaheim did in 2003 but ultimately found their game once they got home.
 
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There’s a credit to the Vegas offense that is missing here.

Toronto and Carolina made Bob look great by taking bad shots with poor pre-shot movement and limited traffic in front. Vegas’s chances have been the opposite

Bingo.

Vegas is playing a very simple game and Florida is letting them. Goalies can't stop what they can't see. And some of these screens are unintentional by Florida players. As long as Florida refuses to clean up the ice in front of Bob, Vegas will be content to keeping sniping behind screens.
 

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When refs are repeatedly warning you to stop being a pita in after the whistle activities, it eventually reaches a point where yes, they will throw you out. This isn't anything new.


Star players get thrown out of Stanley Cup finals games for horsing around during scrimmages?? Name one player. Go ahead just one. Give me a break it doesn't happen in the finals. It looks like its your first time around? Welcome.
 
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Star players get thrown out of Stanley Cup finals games for horsing around during scrimmages?? Name one player. Go ahead just one. Give me a break it doesn't happen in the finals. It looks like its your first time around? Welcome.
Any more paramaters you want to shove in there?

Star player in a SCF final game 2 that occurs on a monday, for horsing around during scrimmages?
 

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Today I learned that star players shouldn't be given misconducts in the SCF.

I guess the refs make an exception for star players who use mouthguards as chewing gum. Brady Tkatchuk better be careful if he ever makes the final.
 

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Vegas is having it self a cake walk to the cup dye to opposing goaltending its embarrassing. Furor helleybuch, then Skinner who was gross, then otteninger and now Bob who before this series was all God like
All 4 goalies litterally fell apart and had below 900 save percentage vs vegas
It is all bad goaltending. None of this can be attributed to Vegas playing well.
 
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willy702

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It is all bad goaltending. None of this can be attributed to Vegas playing well.
Nope, not at all. The Jets stopped playing, the Oilers couldn't score enough because you know the refs stopped them and Dallas got screwed by Oettinger and the refs. Now the Panthers best in the NHL team aren't playing well because the refs are screwing them over. Its never about the Knights playing well, they don't have talent, they just have the refs and more cap than anyone else LOL.
 

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There’s a credit to the Vegas offense that is missing here.

Toronto and Carolina made Bob look great by taking bad shots with poor pre-shot movement and limited traffic in front. Vegas’s chances have been the opposite


That's overlooking a lot of phenomenal saves that Bob made during those series. At one point he allowed 1 goal in 10 periods while stopping 103 shots. That wasn't not all a bunch of trash, it was inclusive of a shitload of very hard saves.

What we're seeing is likely just regression. After one round he was at .891, after two rounds he was a .918, after three rounds he was dramatically up to .935, now he's down to .925. A lot of little things are equalizing, like pucks slipping past him through a screen rather than hitting a skate or going right into his glove or whatever. No goalie in the current NHL is actually a natural .935, so independent of Vegas it was improbable that Bob would continue to string together games where not a single puck went past him through a screen, not a single player beat him point-blank, etc.
 
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