Post-Game Talk: Stained toilet seat @ RANGERS

[MrAlmost]

Habs are bad. Lets see what happens against a playoff team in Toronto.

 

[tlk]

just noticed there are 2 Kakkos in the poll

 

[Peltz]

He's been amazing this year. If he keeps this up he deserves the C. He's the closest thing with have to a leader.

Give Fox and Kreider an A.

Zibanejad is too timid and shit, he barely show up to the games anymore.

I’m getting a little sick of this Zibanejad hate. He’s got 14 points in 16 games, and set up Kreider with an elite-level no look cross ice pass for an easy tap-in last night.

I understand we all want 5-points-a-game Zibanejad to emerge out of the woodwork. But it’s not like he’s not producing. And he’s doing so without a real 1st line right wing.

Zib always gets better and more dominant as the season goes along. His play is improving with every game.

I said the same thing of Panarin just a few games back, and look at how he’s playing now. That line is cooking. But it’s, in large part, because they’re finally gelling with Kakko.

I’m sure Mika will improve as well. But he’s not going to be as much of a threat as he was in the past without someone properly filling in Buchnevich’s role on the right side.

Goodrow is a good contributor on the team, especially to close out games. But he’s too easy to defend in 5v5 when facing the opposing teams’s best defense pairing . Rangers really need to give Mika a second weapon on the first line besides Kreider if they want to consistently beat the best defensive teams in the league when goals become much harder to come by and the power play opportunities become scarce.

 

[JohnC]

We need GIFs of the Reavo fight.

Happy Kakko

 

[will1066]

just noticed there are 2 Kakkos in the poll

Glad I wasn't the only one. I double-checked the spelling of each for shenanigans too, like one would be Kappo Kaako.

 

[AceKing21]

The team is improving and figuring out ways to overcome sometimes bad play. They are at the very least trending in the right direction and getting wins even though there are still areas to improve on. I like where the team is headed, I hope they can remain focused for a full 82.

 

[DialUp]

A thought I just had is that we are now at the point in history where someone named Cayden is old enough to play professional sports. It is only going to get worse from here on out.

 

[romba]

That second goal off the rebound for Montreal was actually deflected by the Habs on the way in after being shot through Nemeth's legs which is why Shesty left such a fat rebound. I was giving him a hard time for his rebounds but that one wasn't on him.

Edit: Would really like to see Lundqvist engage the forward with the deflection sooner, he may not have stopped the tip but he would have prevented the rebound being put in if he had tied him up or been closed to the eventual rebound by covering his man. No one else for him to cover on that play so it's not really confusing for him *shrug*

 

[DazeHereToAmaze91]

I’m getting a little sick of this Zibanejad hate. He’s got 14 points in 16 games, and set up Kreider with an elite-level no look cross ice pass for an easy tap-in last night.

I understand we all want 5-points-a-game Zibanejad to emerge out of the woodwork. But it’s not like he’s not producing. And he’s doing so without a real 1st line right wing.

Zib always gets better and more dominant as the season goes along. His play is improving with every game.

I said the same thing of Panarin just a few games back, and look at how he’s playing now. That line is cooking. But it’s, in large part, because they’re finally gelling with Kakko.

I’m sure Mika will improve as well. But he’s not going to be as much of a threat as he was in the past without someone properly filling in Buchnevich’s role on the right side.

Goodrow is a good contributor on the team, especially to close out games. But he’s too easy to defend in 5v5 when facing the opposing teams’s best defense pairing . Rangers really need to give Mika a second weapon on the first line besides Kreider if they want to consistently beat the best defensive teams in the league when goals become much harder to come by and the power play opportunities become scarce.

I'm literally one of his biggest defenders, I've defended him for years on my old account. He has been shit so far, but yeah he'll probably get going soon (hopefully). I've followed him way longer than you have. I used to see him live in Sweden.

So don't come at me like that kiddo.

Just because I'm a huge fan of his doesn't mean his immune to criticizim.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I can understand getting on Zibanejad.

I can't understand getting on him after last night. That was probably the most complete game hes played this year.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I can understand getting on Zibanejad.

I can't understand getting on him after last night. That was probably the most complete game hes played this year.

Completely agree. I have gotten on him quite a bit, but last night was as good of a game he has played in some time. Kind of confused by the criticism. Was especially good defensively last night.

 

[romba]

I can understand getting on Zibanejad.

I can't understand getting on him after last night. That was probably the most complete game hes played this year.

This site is getting too much. People have predetermined ideas of their favorite and hated players and match the game to their ideas. Like Ziba is an overpaid floater so no matter how he looks, short of potting 2+ goals, they come on here and bitch the same crap. He was engaged last night, made some plays along the boards, and single handedly led to the CK goal with a gorgeous pass. Even when he's not engaged he manages to make enough 'right' plays that end up leading to goals.

He's clearly a slow starter. Maybe he knows his body can't take a full summer of super intense workouts and still be strong by season's end, so just when the rest of the league starts losing half a step he's rounding into form. Or he just enjoys DJing and needs to relax take his mind off the game in the summer so he doesn't burn out. $ can't change your personality or mental health despite many believing it can/should. Either way, he still produces when he's off and gets tons of shit from the fans, no need to dump on him when he actually plays well and is engaged. He'll definitely start to turn it on more and more as we get deeper into the season, as last night showed.

 

[leetch99]

You mean the guy who just scored his like second career goal? Yes I’m hoping he becomes a dynamic scoring winger just like I’m also hoping that Kevin Rooney becomes Jonathan Toews, but there are very different levels of reasonability in hoping either of those things happen versus hoping that a top 10 draft pick does it. But fair enough, assuming Kravtsov isn’t the guy either then we need both a top C and a top winger.

I am very much with the team, being with the team means advocating them doing the things needed to win the Cup instead of cheerleading and excusing any bad things it does.

They look good right now and that is fun and nice. I’m not convinced they look like they are gonna beat the elite teams in a 7 game series though. It is worth discussing whether the team as constructed still has fatal flaws; sorry if that is “too negative,” for some.

That being said their opportunities to address those problems are water under the bridge at this point in many respects so I will enjoy the necessary growth of Kakko and Lafreniere this year, if it happens. I’m not gonna sit here and get excited if our fourth line is our best line though. That’s not a good thing. Similarly as much as I like Kreider, he’s 29 now and he is why he is, if he’s our best forward that’s also a problem. I’m happy when he scores but unhappy if he’s playing like our best forward cause frankly we need him to be like our 5th or 6th or 7th best forward to be a true contender.

So....for poops and giggles....just whom do you consider to be the elite clubs in the Eastern Conference that we won't beat in 7 ....plus we still have 10 ? Million for rentals this season and better 3rd duo heating up in the oven ...consider it all and another 65 games under Gallant .

 

[Harbour Dog]

My first game in 4 years.

Garden looks great. Penn Station felt like I landed on a new planet.

Are people finally done bitching about Panarin?

Panarin also bitched about Panarin.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That second goal off the rebound for Montreal was actually deflected by the Habs on the way in after being shot through Nemeth's legs which is why Shesty left such a fat rebound. I was giving him a hard time for his rebounds but that one wasn't on him.
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Edit: Would really like to see Lundqvist engage the forward with the deflection sooner, he may not have stopped the tip but he would have prevented the rebound being put in if he had tied him up or been closed to the eventual rebound by covering his man. No one else for him to cover on that play so it's not really confusing for him *shrug*

100%

At the very least this is a teachable moment (and honestly, something that vets, even GREAT vets will do every now and then) which bothers me much less than having all the time and space in the world and firing a 70MPH pass up the wall for your winger for no reason or being unable to complete multiple <10 ft passes.

 

[Kovalev27]

Kakko is like buddy the elf in a way. Everything is so new to him all the time lol. Came down from the North Pole

he genuinely looked like he never saw someone beat up before and he loved it.

like he hasn’t had sushi yet or kissed a girl.

 

[Kovalev27]

I’m getting a little sick of this Zibanejad hate. He’s got 14 points in 16 games, and set up Kreider with an elite-level no look cross ice pass for an easy tap-in last night.

I understand we all want 5-points-a-game Zibanejad to emerge out of the woodwork. But it’s not like he’s not producing. And he’s doing so without a real 1st line right wing.

Zib always gets better and more dominant as the season goes along. His play is improving with every game.

I said the same thing of Panarin just a few games back, and look at how he’s playing now. That line is cooking. But it’s, in large part, because they’re finally gelling with Kakko.

I’m sure Mika will improve as well. But he’s not going to be as much of a threat as he was in the past without someone properly filling in Buchnevich’s role on the right side.

Goodrow is a good contributor on the team, especially to close out games. But he’s too easy to defend in 5v5 when facing the opposing teams’s best defense pairing . Rangers really need to give Mika a second weapon on the first line besides Kreider if they want to consistently beat the best defensive teams in the league when goals become much harder to come by and the power play opportunities become scarce.

mika was throwing the body around last night too. He separated a few guys hard last night. He’s playing well. The goals will come in bunches. If he’s already a PPG before he gets white hot as he always does look out

 

[Greg02]

Mika's breakout gets a jumpstart on December 1st.

 

[Blais to Win]

This site is getting too much. People have predetermined ideas of their favorite and hated players and match the game to their ideas. Like Ziba is an overpaid floater so no matter how he looks, short of potting 2+ goals, they come on here and bitch the same crap. He was engaged last night, made some plays along the boards, and single handedly led to the CK goal with a gorgeous pass. Even when he's not engaged he manages to make enough 'right' plays that end up leading to goals.

He's clearly a slow starter. Maybe he knows his body can't take a full summer of super intense workouts and still be strong by season's end, so just when the rest of the league starts losing half a step he's rounding into form. Or he just enjoys DJing and needs to relax take his mind off the game in the summer so he doesn't burn out. $ can't change your personality or mental health despite many believing it can/should. Either way, he still produces when he's off and gets tons of shit from the fans, no need to dump on him when he actually plays well and is engaged. He'll definitely start to turn it on more and more as we get deeper into the season, as last night showed.

2+ goals wasn't enough for people last season. They said he feasted on weak teams... which is what great teams and players do, so I never understood the criticism.

 

[Peltz]

2+ goals wasn't enough for people last season. They said he feasted on weak teams... which is what great teams and players do, so I never understood the criticism.

The criticism is that he did play poorly against the Islanders and Capitals - and I agree with that. But the entire freaking team played poorly against the Islanders and Capitals.

I can't put that squarely on Mika's shoulders alone. They were thoroughly outcoached and dominated physically too. This year, I like our chances a bit more, and I think Mika can light up those teams like he used to as well.

 

[mas0764]

So....for poops and giggles....just whom do you consider to be the elite clubs in the Eastern Conference that we won't beat in 7 ....plus we still have 10 ? Million for rentals this season and better 3rd duo heating up in the oven ...consider it all and another 65 games under Gallant .

We certainly aren't/weren't beating the top teams like Florida, Carolina, Tampa, etc, in multiple seven games series to win a Cup without Kakko and Laf getting going. Maybe now if the light is on for Kakko and he continues to produce, and Laf joins him, we have an outside chance. However historically speaking those teams will wear us out in the playoffs because we lack the top end talent to put it all together through four rounds, we still lack an elite 2C (really a second 1C) and another elite winger.

If we were to acquire those pieces at the deadline, fine, but I would say I'm relatively against giving up high end prospects for short term rentals at this point.

 

[romba]

We certainly aren't/weren't beating the top teams like Florida, Carolina, Tampa, etc, in multiple seven games series to win a Cup without Kakko and Laf getting going. Maybe now if the light is on for Kakko and he continues to produce, and Laf joins him, we have an outside chance. However historically speaking those teams will wear us out in the playoffs because we lack the top end talent to put it all together through four rounds, we still lack an elite 2C (really a second 1C) and another elite winger.

If we were to acquire those pieces at the deadline, fine, but I would say I'm relatively against giving up high end prospects for short term rentals at this point.

Strome's looked great, competing for pucks along the boards in the O zone and coming back on D and he and Panarin are starting to develop chemistry with Kakko. Can't win a cup with him? Maybe, maybe not, I think our 3rd D pairing though is the bigger problem in a long playoff series.

 

[Blais to Win]

We certainly aren't/weren't beating the top teams like Florida, Carolina, Tampa, etc, in multiple seven games series to win a Cup without Kakko and Laf getting going. Maybe now if the light is on for Kakko and he continues to produce, and Laf joins him, we have an outside chance. However historically speaking those teams will wear us out in the playoffs because we lack the top end talent to put it all together through four rounds, we still lack an elite 2C (really a second 1C) and another elite winger.

If we were to acquire those pieces at the deadline, fine, but I would say I'm relatively against giving up high end prospects for short term rentals at this point.

Which 2C's are better than Strome? Like - how many exist in the league? 10? 20? I'm curious. Strome and Zibanejad scored more than every TB player last season, so what's the secret sauce you're looking for?

 

[Peltz]

Which 2C's are better than Strome? Like - how many exist in the league? 10? 20? I'm curious. Strome and Zibanejad scored more than every TB player last season, so what's the secret sauce you're looking for?

I think face-offs in particular are the biggest problem with Strome's game when things will inevitably get tight in the playoffs.

 

[Boris Zubov]

What Kocur did to Jim Kyte is still the stuff of nightmares. Joey was a scary, scary dude out there on the ice. Imagine going out there against the wings with BOTH Probert and Kocur lined up against you. Jeez.

Yzerman had no worries for sure

And Kyte was no daisy himself, but he was on the wrong end of it that day. Even if you rewatch that today, it's still shocks you. Joey's right hand was a sledgehammer.