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Racer88 said:
Vintage was Dubas’s “beer boy” nothing more and nothing less.
Spezza spent most of his career playing for our rival and foe the Ottawa Senators and now we are pining over him leaving……..lol
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Vintage has an extremely deep knowledge of the game and follows junior hockey better than any GM currently working in the NHL.
Vintage was doing this throughout his whole career… it didn’t just start when he slotted in with Dubas.

I won’t be surprised to see Spezza land as President somewhere and Dubas gets hired GM.
 
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Looking through the front office, the purge may not be completely radical. Undoubtedly the coaching staff will all change over and anyone can see there are way too many analysts on staff but several key day to day front office people like Brandon Pridham, Darryl Metcalf, Reid Mitchell pre-date Dubas. The scouting structure is sound. Presumably anyone with "Soo" and "Chicago Steel" on their resume probably won't be here in a year's time.
 
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WillyC said:
Vintage has an extremely deep knowledge of the game and follows junior hockey better than any GM currently working in the NHL.
Vintage was doing this throughout his whole career… it didn’t just start when he slotted in with Dubas.

I won’t be surprised to see Spezza land as President somewhere and Dubas gets hired GM.
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So why is Wes Clark the amateur scouting director if we have such a unique eye for talent in Spezza?
 
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Power politics often absconds integrity of the issue for the maintenance of party power.

The events of the last week feel like long awaited sunlight and the ship is getting lighter as a result.

No offense to Giggles, but I'd rather see Sittler, Williams, Clark and Glimour drawing paycheques in the box reacting to games and filling the role of educated observer(s) and encourager(s).
 
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justashadowof said:
Spezza who seems like a genuinely good guy does not strike me as some fantastic executive prospect. But it is time to start spinning the narratives.
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No clue if he is cut out to be an executive, but a "hockey nerd" with almost 1000 points in the NHL seems fairly valuable to an organization, even if it is just using current connections and picking his brain.

When we hired him the thread was so positive, and now he is useless just because his role was to shadow the GM and find where he'd be most useful in the upcoming season, it's odd.
 
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ITM said:
Power politics often absconds integrity of the issue for the maintenance of party power.

The events of the last week feel like long awaited sunlight and the ship is getting lighter as a result.

No offense to Giggles, but I'd rather see Sittler, Williams, Clark and Glimour drawing paycheques in the box reacting to games and filling the role of educated observer(s) and encourager(s).
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I genuinely like Vintage, what he brought to the team as a player, that regretful veteran insight into not being more serious as a player in his prime, the missed opportunity. I was excited to see what he would grow into as an executive too.

But come on, he hasn't done jack as a front office guy and is hardly a career Leaf great with deep roots who abandoned the team with some deep symbolic meaning. The guy's been here 4 years. If his whole executive career is tied more to Dubas than the Leafs organization, then I guess he has to move on.
 
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Stephen said:
I genuinely like Vintage, what he brought to the team as a player, that regretful veteran insight into not being more serious as a player in his prime, the missed opportunity. I was excited to see what he would grow into as an executive too.

But come on, he hasn't done jack as a front office guy and is hardly a career Leaf great with deep roots who abandoned the team with some deep symbolic meaning. The guy's been here 4 years. If his whole executive career is tied more to Dubas than the Leafs organization, then I guess he has to move on.
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Oh, absolutely and agreed on all points.

Noting a reason or two why anxiety over his leave is needless.
 
WillyC said:
Vintage has an extremely deep knowledge of the game and follows junior hockey better than any GM currently working in the NHL.
Vintage was doing this throughout his whole career… it didn’t just start when he slotted in with Dubas.

I won’t be surprised to see Spezza land as President somewhere and Dubas gets hired GM.
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Really?

So for his entire career you think Spezza was following junior hockey more closely than any GM?

Was he watching junior hockey game film in between games and practices?
 
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Stephen said:
But come on, he hasn't done jack as a front office guy and is hardly a career Leaf great with deep roots who abandoned the team with some deep symbolic meaning. The guy's been here 4 years. If his whole executive career is tied more to Dubas than the Leafs organization, then I guess he has to move on.
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Relying on Spezza for “wisdom and leadership” reminds me of Joke Thornton being signed to “teach the young players how to win.”

A career loser whose team always found a way to choke and underachieve in the playoffs. Do you honestly want a guy like that “leading” the team?
 
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I wouldn't hate it if he was our Yzerman or Sakic. Feels like the front office has been light on former NHLers lately so this is a nice add. Sad to see him finish with 995 points though. He came so far in that last season but just didn't make it over the line.
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Stephen said:
I genuinely like Vintage, what he brought to the team as a player, that regretful veteran insight into not being more serious as a player in his prime, the missed opportunity. I was excited to see what he would grow into as an executive too.

But come on, he hasn't done jack as a front office guy and is hardly a career Leaf great with deep roots who abandoned the team with some deep symbolic meaning. The guy's been here 4 years. If his whole executive career is tied more to Dubas than the Leafs organization, then I guess he has to move on.
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Is it not still good to have an NHLer in the front office?

He had no defined role yet, they were working to see where he would be most productive.
 
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