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notbias said:
I think they are going 7/3/1. If they lose a D then it solves the problem they have going into next year (assuming they think Liljegren and Sandin are both ready to be full-time).
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4/4/1 100%. They don’t have 7 forwards worth keeping.

big 4 + big 3 on d + holl. Expose Kerfoot (aka trade before draft) and dermott (let Seattle have him).
 
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He's been a professional and a leader throughout his time here, on top of producing beyond his contract. He could probably find his way into a position with the organization post-career if he so chose, especially if they ever won a Cup.

Some of the other news though is that Hyman looks to be on the out. The cost of being against the cap.

I suspect Leafs are looking around and realizing that size matters in the NHL playoffs. I'm not sure they can get it done without moving a big contract, but I have to believe that this will be their focus.

They should happily accept being the 4th seed but being a difficult team to handle in the post-season rather than a regular season superstar.

Please, bring in players who take losing personal. Those who take it as an insult to their very existence.
 
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AllDay28 said:
4/4/1 100%. They don’t have 7 forwards worth keeping.

big 4 + big 3 on d + holl. Expose Kerfoot (aka trade before draft) and dermott (let Seattle have him).
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Kerfoot is more valuable than Holl or Dermott to the team, and you're losing 1 of them regardless, I think you protect Kerfoot.

We have 7D ready for the NHL, they need to move one regardless.

I think it is more likely they try to move Rielly for some forward help and then do 7/3/1, lose one of Dermott/Holl and then try to sign a larger D who can be a physical presence like Bogo (although I don't think it will be him), or just go after a good D like Martinez, it really depends how you see Liljegren and Sandin progressing.
 
notbias said:
Kerfoot is more valuable than Holl or Dermott to the team, and you're losing 1 of them regardless, I think you protect Kerfoot.

We have 7D ready for the NHL, they need to move one regardless.

I think it is more likely they try to move Rielly for some forward help and then do 7/3/1, lose one of Dermott/Holl and then try to sign a larger D who can be a physical presence like Bogo (although I don't think it will be him), or just go after a good D like Martinez, it really depends how you see Liljegren and Sandin progressing.
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Difference is you should be able to replace Kefoot at his cap hit easier than you can Dermott and possibly Holl at theirs.
 
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ToneDog said:
Difference is you should be able to replace Kefoot at his cap hit easier than you can Dermott and possibly Holl at theirs.
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We are strapped for cash and we do need some players that are better than the 700K rest of the roster fill ins.

Id find a quality 3C and move Kerfoot to 2nd line LW with Tavares and Nylander.
I know some aren’t crazy about it but he’s better than Galchenyuk and easily one of the better players we have after the rest.
 
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ToneDog said:
Difference is you should be able to replace Kefoot at his cap hit easier than you can Dermott and possibly Holl at theirs.
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I think it is the other way around. Dermott/Holl are going to be pushed down by our prospects most likely and Kerfoot needs to be pushed out by a UFA, I just think it is easier to find bottom pairing D for 2 million than a 3C who can play up and down the lineup in any situation or position for 3.5 million. Mind you I think both can be done.
 
Trapper said:
We are strapped for cash and we do need some players that are better than the 700K rest of the roster fill ins.

Id find a quality 3C and move Kerfoot to 2nd line LW with Tavares and Nylander.
I know some aren’t crazy about it but he’s better than Galchenyuk and easily one of the better players we have after the rest.
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they currently have 9 forwards, 5d and 1g signed with 13-15m in space. It’ll be 8/5/1 and about 16-18 when Kerfoots selected. If players like Brodie are taking 5m deals then I don’t see how they can’t add an offensive player or two at 4m each leaving about 8-10m to add a backup G, a 6th dman and 4th liners.

hell, maybe Robertson gets a chance and he provides us with a body for min allowing them to focus on other spots.

UFA - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Tavares - Nylander
Mikayhev - UFA - UFA
Engvall - Brooks - Spezza

Rielly - Brodie
Holl - Muzzin
Sandin - Dermott
Lily / Someoen cheap

Campbell
Cheap backup
 
ToneDog said:
Difference is you should be able to replace Kefoot at his cap hit easier than you can Dermott and possibly Holl at theirs.
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Precisely.

I have no issue of upgrading any position. Their D wasn't the biggest issue, I can see some improvements back there in the form of a big stud or two if it's a money in/money out situation. It has to be a case by case analysis ("what do we have to pay to replace player X and what do they bring"?). 3rd line players making over $3M is tough to digest, only because the Leafs have so much tied up in the top two.

What has to be concerning is that they lost primarily because their First Line didn't produce, or, couldn't fight through the tough checking hockey, simplify their game to a chip and chase style. This is why I am not too confident at the moment that this teams fortunes are going to drastically change with so much locked up with proven playoff duds.
 
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Leafsfan74 said:
Precisely.

I have no issue of upgrading any position. Their D wasn't the biggest issue, I can see some improvements back there in the form of a big stud or two if it's a money in/money out situation. It has to be a case by case analysis ("what do we have to pay to replace player X and what do they bring"?).

What has to be concerning is that they lost primarily because their First Line didn't produce, or, couldn't fight through the tough checking hockey, simplify their game to a chip and chase style. This is why I am not too confident at the moment that this teams fortunes are going to drastically change with so much locked up with proven playoff duds.
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Matthews and Hyman are still top 10 in quality chances for the entire playoffs, they lost because Price shut down Matthews and Hyman has stone hands, not because they didn't generate anything though.
 
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Extra: Nash, Anderson, Brooks.

This would be an epic bottom 6 if Keefe can run squad rotation on some of the older vets in the bottom 6. I like Galy and Robertson as regular season top 6. Can run cap circumvention to get a top 6 upgrade at the deadline. Simmonds was ok but not good enough or enough money to bring both Simmonds and Foligno back. If Foligno doesn’t come back might give that money to Simmer.
 
AllDay28 said:
isn’t being homophobic a tad weird since you spend your life obsessing over guys who play sports?
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Relax bud. Let’s not throw accusations at people like that for a benign comment.
Too much of that crap going on in our world. Doesn’t need to happen here.
 
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AllDay28 said:
4/4/1 100%. They don’t have 7 forwards worth keeping.

big 4 + big 3 on d + holl. Expose Kerfoot (aka trade before draft) and dermott (let Seattle have him).
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100% , ..when you miss reasoning pour confidence in.
 
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