Speculation: Speculation, rumours and trade & free agency ideas thread

[Buffdog]

One of the reasons that I have the unpopular opinion of trading him as well. I don't say it much of course

I'm open to trading anyone, depending on the return of course

 

[Flair Hay]

another clip of dreger talking about helle

Thanks for posting

Well, we know what Chevy is looking for as a framework now.

 

[WolfHouse]

All things aside has any of these insiders mentioned what they think the return for a 34 goalie is,I think now that he is coming off a gold his market is high in the states but I'm not sure the return is going be huge,but you never know,if we can create a bidding war amongst teams helle will wave for,it has been mentioned that helle will be accommodating and I'm not there, if the guy wants a cup he will have a short list.

I’d say the market is pretty decent since Bob won cups at age 35 and 36… and Anderson is 36...

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I’d say the market is pretty decent since Bob won cups at age 35 and 36… and Anderson is 36...

3 to 4 years of a cost controlled goalie as the cap goes up? He has value and someone will pay for him

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

and what's your return where if we have something similar to a SV% as last year which was ~league average, that the Jets are Cup Contenders?

I mean Vegas had below league average goal tending and just went to the SCF, you never know. In any case we haven't been true cup contenders with Helle so perhaps filling the 2C hole and maybe another addition could help us more than it would just keeping Helle around.

 

[flin flon bombers]

I’d say the market is pretty decent since Bob won cups at age 35 and 36… and Anderson is 36...

I just don't feel goalies really get much back in trades but i don't really have a memory about past goalie trades,and the elephant in the room is his playoff numbers,so be interesting to see the offers

 

[DRW204]

I mean Vegas had below league average goal tending and just went to the SCF, you never know. In any case we haven't been true cup contenders with Helle so perhaps filling the 2C hole and maybe another addition could help us more than it would just keeping Helle around.

you can't really compare the makeup of the line up or opportunity to improve like Vegas to WPG.

 

[Buffdog]

I mean Vegas had below league average goal tending and just went to the SCF, you never know. In any case we haven't been true cup contenders with Helle so perhaps filling the 2C hole and maybe another addition could help us more than it would just keeping Helle around.

Vegas also has Eichel, Marner, Stone, Dorofeyov and Hertl up front and big, mobile D

 

[WolfHouse]

I mean you gotta angle for both. Whether Florida would give up both is a different story but you gotta try somehow.

I mean if I am Florida I would give up 9OA and Lundell in a heartbeat for Helle…. the goalie market is slim and Helle is literally the only goalie that isn’t a gamble right now and he’s your Captains best pal

At best, he takes you to the Presidents Cup again and the Stanley Cup… at worst, he’s part of the best marketing combo in the American NHL

I’d look at Lundell as expendable especially if Brady Tkachuk was going to be my second line anchor in two years or sooner

 

[WolfHouse]

I just don't feel goalies really get much back in trades but i don't really have a memory about past goalie trades,and the elephant in the room is his playoff numbers,so be interesting to see the offers

How many vezina winning, Olympic gold winning goalies have been on the market though…. in an era where cap is going up and you have him for essentially a $4m aav discount

Do you overpay for Helle or sign Bob for 3 years at $12m

 

[flin flon bombers]

Where have you seen that Helly will be accommodating, as I agree I don’t think he will be. At this point he has a full NMC so he can be very selective. After this season it opens up to a list of 10 teams he will accept a trade to, which would give Chevy some options to work with.

It was mentioned by a few posters on Here that he would be accommodating

 

[Howard Chuck]

Thanks for posting

Well, we know what Chevy is looking for as a framework now.

And they are talking about Schiefele and KC’s lack of willingness to play a defensive game.

On top of everything else that’s going on with the Jets, that has to be addressed as well. Not just trades.

 

[Daximus]

I mean if I am Florida I would give up 9OA and Lundell in a heartbeat for Helle…. the goalie market is slim and Helle is literally the only goalie that isn’t a gamble right now and he’s your Captains best pal

At best, he takes you to the Presidents Cup again and the Stanley Cup… at worst, he’s part of the best marketing combo in the American NHL

I’d look at Lundell as expendable especially if Brady Tkachuk was going to be my second line anchor in two years or sooner

I'd hope they are lining up with that thinking. We don't know if Chevy is.

 

[Daximus]

How many vezina winning, Olympic gold winning goalies have been on the market though…. in an era where cap is going up and you have him for essentially a $4m aav discount

Do you overpay for Helle or sign Bob for 3 years at $12m

It's in the past but both Roy and Hasek were traded in their primes for pretty meh returns.

The most a goalie has ever been traded for in the cap era is Cory Schneider who Vancouver traded for the 9th overall pick in the 2013 draft that ended up being Bo Horvat.

 

[Daximus]

Well that makes a deal with Buffalo a little bit less enticing.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I mean if I am Florida I would give up 9OA and Lundell in a heartbeat for Helle…. the goalie market is slim and Helle is literally the only goalie that isn’t a gamble right now and he’s your Captains best pal

At best, he takes you to the Presidents Cup again and the Stanley Cup… at worst, he’s part of the best marketing combo in the American NHL

I’d look at Lundell as expendable especially if Brady Tkachuk was going to be my second line anchor in two years or sooner

Florida has also apparently made an offer for Larkin who is a C.

With Helle that would be bringing in about $17 million. Not sure of their cap situation.

 

[WolfHouse]

Well that makes a deal with Buffalo a little bit less enticing.

In this draft, everything from 10-40 is probably an equal pick...

 

[gojetsgo]

Florida has also apparently made an offer for Larkin who is a C.

With Helle that would be bringing in about $17 million. Not sure of their cap situation.

they have 15 million, need 2 goalies, a 7th d and samoskevich to sign

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

you can't really compare the makeup of the line up or opportunity to improve like Vegas to WPG.

Vegas also has Eichel, Marner, Stone, Dorofeyov and Hertl up front and big, mobile D

Granted there is a difference in the makeup of VGK compared to us, still we have Scheifs, KFC, Vilardi and JoMo.

We add Lundell and Samo and maybe get lucky with some decent D in FA like Ferraro and perhaps someone else and who knows, I like our chances more with something like that than I do with just running it back with Helle.

 

[Daximus]

Florida has also apparently made an offer for Larkin who is a C.

With Helle that would be bringing in about $17 million. Not sure of their cap situation.

I think they have $15m to work with. So Lundell gone opens up $5m. If they bring in Larkin it makes Lundell expendable. But also how are they getting Larkin without giving up Lundell or 9th overall?

 

[Jets 31]

I mean Vegas had below league average goal tending and just went to the SCF, you never know. In any case we haven't been true cup contenders with Helle so perhaps filling the 2C hole and maybe another addition could help us more than it would just keeping Helle around.

Hart played unreal in the playoffs until the Cup final and they lost. You may not need a premier starting goalie to win the Cup but you definitely need 2 goalies that are both better than Comrie.

 

[Daximus]

In this draft, everything from 10-40 is probably an equal pick...

There will be some good players at 20-25. After that it looks a little murky. Though the twins are ranked pretty low so perhaps we could swing both somehow with 27 and maybe moving something else.

 

[Daximus]

Hart played unreal in the playoffs until the Cup final and they lost. You may not need a premier starting goalie to win the Cup but you definitely need 2 goalies that are both better than Comrie.

Carolina proved that with Andersen going down and Bussi stepping up huge.

 

[Buffdog]

I think with all this Helle talk, it's sorta been lost that Dreger mentionned that Perfetti and the Jets aren't close. I had read some other poster on the main boards (grain of salt) mentioned that Cole isn't the happiest here, which I can totally see (it has been alluded to by others in the press)

I'm also not sold on Samberg being here long term after last summer's negotiations

I think that if we're moving Helle, both those guys are available, either to expand a Helle deal into a blockbuster or as pieces to aquire other pieces