Honesty Miller should of been in the AHL last season if not for covid. He is a turnover machine.. it is 50/50 good play to a bad one.
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Honesty Miller should of been in the AHL last season if not for covid. He is a turnover machine.. it is 50/50 good play to a bad one.
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Well, I guess both the current and prior coaching staffs disagree with your opinion.
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Miller is definitely prone to making mistakes with the puck and picking up assignments off switches, but I’d rather him figure out what does and doesn’t suit his skillset than forcing him to oversimplify his game and dissuade him from making those high-risk plays. He also was not nearly as bad as some make it seem here, and he had a pretty solid rookie year considering the circumstances. You guys really need to be patient with these young defensive prospects and let them figure out what does and doesn’t work at the NHL level.
It’s the same thing with Jones and Lundkvist - both are incredibly smart defenders that will need to learn how they can adjust their games to the NHL pace. Wherever these kids end up, they’ll be in good hands being coached by Gord Murphy or Steve Smith. Just embrace the growing pains and enjoy watching these kids become good defenseman. They have enough vet talent with Lindgren, Fox, Trouba, and Nemeth to help stabilize the pairings and manage difficult assignments.
It’s the same thing with Jones and Lundkvist - both are incredibly smart defenders that will need to learn how they can adjust their games to the NHL pace. Wherever these kids end up, they’ll be in good hands being coached by Gord Murphy or Steve Smith. Just embrace the growing pains and enjoy watching these kids become good defenseman. They have enough vet talent with Lindgren, Fox, Trouba, and Nemeth to help stabilize the pairings and manage difficult assignments.
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Couldn’t agree more.
Hedman’s first 4 years:
In 12/13, we would have had him as a clear bust and cried about not drafting Nazem Kadri.
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WTF are those corsi numbers literary all situations? Lol
But point still stands, people wouldn’t have been high on Hedman. He was far from complete. Players develop.
This is a big year for chytil. Imo, he has to distinguish himself as to what type of player he’s going to be. Last season, it finally looked like he’s grown in and has command of his body. He’s not a teen anymore. Although still young at 22, he needs to find his identity so to speak.
If he remains as a tweener that projects good stats but that Gallant doesn’t trust as a long term top 6 option I think he finds himself traded.
We know he’s got the skill. He’s flashed it multiple times. But playing consistently hungry and dependable is going to be key for him. He’s going to have to run with this opportunity. He’ll have 2 good line mates, whoever they may be.
If he’s hot for 10 games cold for 10-12 etc and that goes on all year, he runs the risk of not being good/smart enough to be trusted in a top 6 role. And not the type of player you want in the bottom 6. He’s not really a shutdown option, not a PK guy, not really a guy whose going to wear down other teams 3rd/4th lines is what I’m getting at.
It’s big for chytil to grab the bull by the horns and establish himself
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Trouba just needs to stop trying to do too much, just play defense and hit.
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I think the only people that believe he is a top 6 is some fans and himself. He's a perfect 3c and there's nothin wrong with that.
Or you know we could watch him play and see the size/ speed and look at his zone entries with speed.
Through two episodes of the leafs doc on Amazon. So cised. Makes me feel like I'm back in the locker room. Also shows how our relative beauty and grizzled vet quotient is so lacking compared to other teams. That's why the mandate was to bring in 3 beauties and 3 grizzled vets this offseason. We didn't do enough.
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Completely agree. Just unfortunate that instead of enjoying watching them all develop as a group some fans completely unnecessary will resort to putting down one NY Rangers prospect(s) as a way to promote others - their favorites.
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Shesterkybomb
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Fine, that doesnt make him a top 6 player though and as i said there's nothing wrong with that, i just think because he's our best center prospect everyone assumes hes a top 6 center, hes not until he finds a way to use the players around him better. Gallant pretty much summed it up when he said he saw him as a Lars Eller type with possibly some more offense.
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Martin Frk was a really good junior player with some bite, he must have stagnated because his play looked like it would translate to the nhl
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Was just joking. He’s the guy with the big shot, right? Or maybe I’m mixing him up with someone else.
Yes.
And style wise, Gallant may see Eller but Chytil has to have more attention to detail if he wants to be as good as Eller defensively. Eller is a match up 3C. Chytil is still at the point where I don’t know where is development is going. I think he has more offensive potential then Eller for sure, but I don’t know if he’ll ever be as good at face offs or on the defensive side of the puck as Eller was.
He’s still at that in between stage. I’m curious to see what direction it goes for Chytil with some more ice time and better more established wingers. He could thrive or fall flat. If it’s the ladder, I don’t know how much longer he’ll be a ranger. We saw some definite growth and good things last season, just not enough and not for a long enough time span.
Part of that is def having 2 kids as wings and his ice time going down when he returned from injury/Covid.
He’s got to show a pretty significant step in progress this season if he wants to be in the long range plans.
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E-Train
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It’s crazy but will always happen here. Miller was a full time NHLer in his age 20 season. Let him continue to develop and deal with the process along the way. Better here than turning into a star elsewhere.
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I’m ready to see the full lineup, whatever it may be, with true combos.
Nemeth said in his interview they haven’t even talked about systems yet. Need to get going with that, whatever it may be.
10 days until the season starts, two preseason games left. Start Igor for a full and Georgy for the other one.
There are 8 days available for practices but they will be on their bonding trip for 3 (?) of them. The real games are coming up quick and not much time to work on systems.
Which leads me to believe (it’s no rocket science) that Gallant and Kelly will have a very simple system. Quinn would have had them practicing systems play already for 4 practices. Already overthinking shit.
That may be the reason alone Gallant isn’t pushing anything on them. Maybe he just wants to get to know the players and used the feedback from the exit interviews with Quinn.
Id be lying if I said it didn’t concern me a little. Gallant is extremely hands off with the players in a lot of ways. I don’t know if that’s will be a good or bad thing with this group.
Nemeth said in his interview they haven’t even talked about systems yet. Need to get going with that, whatever it may be.
10 days until the season starts, two preseason games left. Start Igor for a full and Georgy for the other one.
There are 8 days available for practices but they will be on their bonding trip for 3 (?) of them. The real games are coming up quick and not much time to work on systems.
Which leads me to believe (it’s no rocket science) that Gallant and Kelly will have a very simple system. Quinn would have had them practicing systems play already for 4 practices. Already overthinking shit.
That may be the reason alone Gallant isn’t pushing anything on them. Maybe he just wants to get to know the players and used the feedback from the exit interviews with Quinn.
Id be lying if I said it didn’t concern me a little. Gallant is extremely hands off with the players in a lot of ways. I don’t know if that’s will be a good or bad thing with this group.
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