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Speculation: Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Part XXIV
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EdJovanovski
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Crease
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Kreider for C makes sense if they want a placeholder before the younger guys graduate into the leadership circle.
Trouba is too young to be phased out of the C. Fox I don’t think needs the added pressure coming off a Norris season.
Trouba is too young to be phased out of the C. Fox I don’t think needs the added pressure coming off a Norris season.
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It will be a placeholder for Fox or Laf.... Whether it's Trouba or Kreider.
Laf seems like the quintessential Captain. It's the obvious choice. Laf would command the room more than Fox.
Laf seems like the quintessential Captain. It's the obvious choice. Laf would command the room more than Fox.
HockeyBasedNYC
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I remember Drury stating going into last season they felt more comfortable easing Barron into the professional game on the wing, not giving him too much.
If they intend to start him off with the Pack (and not make the same "mistake" they made with Howden, not giving him enough time in the AHL) it makes sense that they would try him at center there, giving him more responsibility and see how he does.
So I agree. I dont think we will see him make the team out of camp. But I like what they are doing with him if thats the case.
I've always envisioned Barron as a center, his faceoff % was very good at Cornell and it would be great to have another suitable centerman on this team whether he caps out as a 3rd or 4th liner
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will1066
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That’s why I’m really surprised strome is still here.
Even though Goodrow can play center, were better off keeping him at what he does best work. On the wing, taking important face offs when needed. There is also no one better to be on Barrons wing if they are intent on keeping him at center, which they seem to be.
Wouldn’t surprise me 1 bit to see a 3rd line of
Goodrow-Barron-kravtsov/Kakko
Or a
Kreider-Barron-Goodrow
line come out of camp if Gallant feels That is the best 3rd line gets could put out. All depends how Morgan does in camp/preseason
HockeyBasedNYC
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Whoever they choose for captain will give us a little clue of their longterm plans. Especially re #93 and #20
If its Zib, that may mean they are committed to him longterm. Why make him captain and then let him walk in the summer?
If its Kreids, it probably indicates that they won't be trying to shop him at any point in the near future. Teams may not bite anyway with his contract, but that might cement it.
If its Trouba, well he may be the best man for the job, but hes conveniently signed for 5 more years with a NMC
If its Zib, that may mean they are committed to him longterm. Why make him captain and then let him walk in the summer?
If its Kreids, it probably indicates that they won't be trying to shop him at any point in the near future. Teams may not bite anyway with his contract, but that might cement it.
If its Trouba, well he may be the best man for the job, but hes conveniently signed for 5 more years with a NMC
Lays
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Think it should be Kreider and then in 4-5 years we give it to LaF. LaF is the future captain of this team there’s no doubt about that
rangers1314
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I’d bet Fox is the captain.
Some version of Zibby/Trouba/ panarin/ Lindgren get the A s
my dark horse pick for the C- Ryan Lindgren.
Some version of Zibby/Trouba/ panarin/ Lindgren get the A s
my dark horse pick for the C- Ryan Lindgren.
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Crease
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I don’t think they are really comparable.
In howdens case he wasn’t physically ready for the NHL. That accompanied with not being the greatest skater really put him behind the 8 ball. Quinn just liked his hustle and it kept him in Quinn’s good graces.
Barron already has an NHL body. He’s not going to get knocked off the puck by a stiff breeze like Howden did.
Howden was also drafted as more so a skilled center capable of offense. He wasn’t very good at training, and apparently didn’t take it serious enough. He’s a guy whose not good enough for top 6 and not suited for bottom 6. Basically he’s on the island in between.
Barron is far more suited for the role of bottom 6 duty. The strengths in his game are exactly what drury/Gallant are looking for.
Big, hard to move, good along the boards, down low, protects the puck well, above average shot, physical etc.
Howden is none of those things. He had decent speed and would get into scoring positions but his hands/shot just weren’t good enough and he would Muff it. His offense just never translated from juniors.
Barrons game isn’t built on speed or offense. He does the other things Howden couldn’t provide. It’s great that Barron has an above average shot, but he’s likely to be asked to add 30 pts at most ever.
He’s never going to be an offensive stud. If he gets 15g/15a a year and plays a solid 3C we should be very lucky.
If Gallant is trying to recreate the bottom 6 he had in Vegas (style wise anyway). Barron fills the role of the 3C better then strome or chytil
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rangers1314
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I wanted Lindgren to get a letter last year, he should without a doubt get one this year.
Fox would be the guy. He should be here for a very long time. Can he handle the responsibility of being captain? This will be his 3rd pro year. Leetch became captain later in his career and he was awful. He was annoyed at Messier leaving. He was not thrilled about replacing Mark as captain because he thought Mark should be captain. Fox is a quiet guy. Leetch was a quiet guy.
Man I know it's easy and popular to bag on Carp these days but holy shit, Drury has a press conference and Vince is asking questions and tweeting answers and giving us info and meanwhile Carp tweets "Badass." to some Old Time Sports thing and literally like his last 3 or more tweets have been that exact same thing.
Get off your f***ing ass Carp, no one gives a shit what you think is badass when you're not doing your job worth a shit
Get off your f***ing ass Carp, no one gives a shit what you think is badass when you're not doing your job worth a shit
pld459666
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They do not play the same position.
Panarin and Lafreniere are the guys pushing CK to 3rd line and with good reason, one is the best player on the team, top 5 in the NHL and the other is the future of the franchise.
Accommodations are made for that and that accommodation is CK to 3rd line with Chytil and Kravtsov which should be a VERY good line
SA16
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It depends. Gallant said he’s open to moving LaF to RW. If that happens
Kreider-Zibby-LaF could be a thing at least for a while. It would likely also involve someone else moving to their off wing.
I know pretty much everyone expects to see
LaF-Zibanejad-Kakko
Panarin-Strome-Kravtsov
Kreider-Chytil-Goodrow
Blais-Rooney-Reaves
Hunt
But when finding the right line combos and who has chemistry with who and what is the missing piece of getting one line going, who needs a more physical component? A faster 3rd piece??... etc etc
Panarin-Strome may need a Goodrow/Blais
LaF-Zibby may need the size and speed of a kreider and so on....
Just because it looks like the logical combos where all the kids move up to top 6 duty and get tons of ice time, I don’t think it’s very likely that it works out that way. Still too many bodies/question marks to figure out how it’s gona shake out
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Blais is not gonna be a top six player. To the extent we need a guy with some size in a higher-up-the-depth-chart role we have Kreider.
It's not gonna be Blais unless there are injuries or departures.
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Blais is probably a solid fourth liner, maybe he's even Derek Dorsett level impactful, but that's all he is.
Move him up onto a scoring line and he'll be an eyesore. His best case scenario is like a Jesper Fast with more physicality.
Don't know why some people want to make this so hard except to be cool by being counter to mainstream opinion so they can feel smarter.
Fitzy
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There's only room for one grinder in the top 9 at present, and that's gonna be Barclay Goodrow.
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