Post-Game Talk: Slip Sliding Away Jets lose 4-2

[GeorgeJETson]

1 loser point for me in the prediction contest!

 

[FonRiesen]

Just got back from a boardgames night... Dangit, I really hoped they could turn things around. Was their timing/cohesion still off tonight?

 

[Orrrules]

Miss the playoffs and this has to happen and it starts with PLD, making a decision on Wheeler, convos with Scheifele and Helle on where their heads are at, moving 1or 2 of Schmidt, Pionk or Dillon are some moves that can happen, but it's starts at the top and Chevy has had his time a fresh set of eyes needs to take control and assess who stays and who goes.

Considering Winnipeg is the least desirable place in the league Chevy has done very well. It's pretty much guaranteed that one or both of PLD and 55 will be traded in the off season as well as a dman.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Just got back from a boardgames night... Dangit, I really hoped they could turn things around. Was their timing/cohesion still off tonight?

Part of it was Helle being subpar. At one point, it was 3 goals on 15 shots. Meanwhile, Jets had 2 goals on ~26 shots. This was before the end of the game.

Granted, I wasn't paying close attention, so others may have more insight.

 

[bustamente]

Considering Winnipeg is the least desirable place in the league Chevy has done very well. It's pretty much guaranteed that one or both of PLD and 55 will be traded in the off season as well as a dman.

Winnipeg will always be a draft and develop team, apart from the first round Chevy's drafting record is average finding Helle in the later rounds his real only success. His trades haven't fared that much better. He has been here long enough and this team needs a fresh set of eyes to evaluate the core and make moves.

 

[Larabee]

1 loser point for me in the prediction contest!

I got the full 8 points. But I’m not thrilled about it.

 

[DRW204]

Miss the playoffs and this has to happen and it starts with PLD, making a decision on Wheeler, convos with Scheifele and Helle on where their heads are at, moving 1or 2 of Schmidt, Pionk or Dillon are some moves that can happen, but it's starts at the top and Chevy has had his time a fresh set of eyes needs to take control and assess who stays and who goes.

Nothing is happening to Chevy. They just gave him a new contract AFTER last season, and this season has been an improvement on that.

 

[bustamente]

Nothing is happening to Chevy. They just gave him a new contract AFTER last season, and this season has been an improvement on that.

I wouldn't say missing the playoffs again if they do is an improvement, keep Chevy and we will be talking about the same things next year

 

[DRW204]

I wouldn't say missing the playoffs again if they do is an improvement, keep Chevy and we will be talking about the same things next year

Lets see if they do miss first. I just don't see them cutting bait so quickly after signing him.

 

[kanadalainen]

Just got back from a boardgames night... Dangit, I really hoped they could turn things around. Was their timing/cohesion still off tonight?

IMHO they played well, much better than the Wild EXCEPT Helly - he had a below average outing. YMMV

 

[ecolad]

For all the frustrating plays, terrible PP and some shaky play by Helle, they were still unlucky to lose. Most teams who tilt the ice that much win far more often then not. It’s just been a combination of no bounces, bad bounces, poor decisions and poor execution at crucial times. They need to bear down, stop bobbling pucks, stop missing nets, get on the right side of the puck along the wall and stop giving the puck up so cheaply at times.

This - so much this. The no bounces/bad bounces part has been going on for a while now and hopefully will change for the better soon. But there are so many players making poor decisions right now ,it is almost unbelieveable. They are collectively bobbling pucks; passing into skates or simply giving the puck away; missing the net or flailing around to simply direct the puck towards the net; and generally not playing sound positional hockey. They elect not to get on the right side of the puck along the boards and position for a puck battle, and, seem to have no idea how to position themselves and their stick at netfront for screening and rebounds.

It`s going to be a challenge to bring about change at this critical juncture - especially with the team going on another road trip where there will be no time for on ice practise.

 

[Orrrules]

Winnipeg will always be a draft and develop team, apart from the first round Chevy's drafting record is average finding Helle in the later rounds his real only success. His trades haven't fared that much better. He has been here long enough and this team needs a fresh set of eyes to evaluate the core and make moves.

2023 NHL prospect pool rankings: No. 13 Winnipeg Jets

The Jets' prospect pool holds firm as strong but not quite top-10.

theathletic.com

Future looks decent to me?

 

[bustamente]

Lets see if they do miss first. I just don't see them cutting bait so quickly after signing him.

Oh I agree it's not over yet, but full disclosure I wanted Chevy gone last year and thought his extensions was a terrible decision for this franchise.

 

[tbcwpg]

2023 NHL prospect pool rankings: No. 13 Winnipeg Jets

The Jets' prospect pool holds firm as strong but not quite top-10.

theathletic.com

Future looks decent to me?

13th, one spot better than their current spot in the leaguewide standings.

 

[surixon]

This - so much this. The no bounces/bad bounces part has been going on for a while now and hopefully will change for the better soon. But there are so many players making poor decisions right now ,it is almost unbelieveable. They are collectively bobbling pucks; passing into skates or simply giving the puck away; missing the net or flailing around to simply direct the puck towards the net; and generally not playing sound positional hockey. They elect not to get on the right side of the puck along the boards and position for a puck battle, and, seem to have no idea how to position themselves and their stick at netfront for screening and rebounds.

It`s going to be a challenge to bring about change at this critical juncture - especially with the team going on another road trip where there will be no time for on ice practise.

Makes you wonder just how good they could be if they could excute. The team not executing well is still leading to a controlling the game. It comes back to not having a well defined offensive game plan to fall back on when things aren't bouncing right.

 

[raideralex99]

I wouldn't say missing the playoffs again if they do is an improvement, keep Chevy and we will be talking about the same things next year

Seriously the last 2 games how can you blame anyone for the losses.
If the Jets play like this for the rest of the season and miss the playoffs chalk it up to it just wasn't meant to be this year.
Carolina lost 3 straight games like this outplaying and out shooting the 3 teams by 137-65 shots and two of them were against bottom feeders. As long as the Jets play like this they should win more games than they lose.
The bad bounces or breaks can't continue forever ... right?

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Nothing is happening to Chevy. They just gave him a new contract AFTER last season, and this season has been an improvement on that.

What 'should' happen is certainly different from what 'will' happen with this team. No question that the organization will see out Chevy's contract, but Chevy has had 12 years at the helm and this team has only achieved success once. It's the same issues over and over with this team, Chevy has proven that not only can't he solve them, the longer he lets them go on - the worse they will get. Massive losing streaks, dysfunctional locker rooms and players asking for trades to get away from it are things that Chevy CAN control by making bold moves, but he won't do it. Empty seats will eventually force Chipman's hand. This team had lightning in a bottle the first few years, pissed away by a terrible team with terrible coaching and putrid goaltending. Their approach takes fan support for granted, and it's just not sustainable anymore - there is no road to success the way this team operates and the fans seem to be catching on to that.

 

[surixon]

So why are they all still here? Chevy gambled on a new coach solving all his problems, even though they’ve been festering for years now. What’s that whole definition of insanity saying?

To be fair this team has performed much better in terms of metrics, defense and PK then any team we have had since 17-18. I think coaching has had a positive impact on this team. I can't fault Chevy for trying a new coach prior to breaking up the core, most every other org would do likewise.

This team just can't finish and execute Cleanly in the offensive third. Unfortunately this was an issue for Bones in Dallas.

If there is a criticism imo it's that the org put too much emphasis on fixing the room and defense that they took for granted that the skill would be enough on its own to win us games. That is clearly not the case and a lack of an offensive scheme is hurting the team.

 

[Grumpy Olfart]

Contract or not, Chevy better have his resume ready for golf season. Aren't we getting tired of “Just wait till next year!”

 

[Orrrules]

Without Vezina Helle team isn't going anywhere, it's that simple. They dominated last two games but weak goaltending sunk them. That is who this team is. Calgary went through the same thing all year but now their tending is heating up.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Working at TNSE has better job security than a government job.

 

[ecolad]

Makes you wonder just how good they could be if they could excute. The team not executing well is still leading to a controlling the game. It comes back to not having a well defined offensive game plan to fall back on when things aren't bouncing right.

Yeah, you won`t get an argument from me on that point. It`s no secret I am not a fan of the style of hockey being emphasized this season. But we are not going to see any changes at this juncture, so the guy`s will have to really get back to basics and execute better on fundamentals if there is any hope of success.

 

[macmaroon]

Once again, I fell asleep sometime during the second intermission and woke up to another Jets loss. Man, it's like even my body has given up on this team. The effort was there, but the finish was elsewhere. I give this game three exasperated sighs out of five...

The Prediction Contest has been posted for the game against the Panthers, so get your guesses in. I certainly won't blame you for picking Florida and I promise not to ridicule you... Well, maybe a little... After tabulating tonight's results, I can proudly say...wait for it...

Yes indeed, another Trifecta tonight, this time it is @Larabee who scored eight points, correctly picking the Wild to win 4-2 and Marcus Foligno to score the first goal. Congratulations! Way to go!

I can not stress this enough, but don't forget to sign up to create your very own GDT. They are lots of fun to make, so give it a try...

 

[MelikeJets]

Considering Winnipeg is the least desirable place in the league Chevy has done very well. It's pretty much guaranteed that one or both of PLD and 55 will be traded in the off season as well as a dman.

We thought big moves were going to happen last summer.......

 

[Orrrules]

We thought big moves were going to happen last summer.......

You thought wrong. Chevy always moves guys who don't want to be here Laine Roslovik Trouba.