Confirmed with Link: Skinner traded to Buffalo for 2nd, 3rd, 6th, and prospect

[Vagrant]

i understand the lack of enthusiasm for the return, but the lack of return should tell you more about how jeff is viewed around the league by the people who do this for a living that the best deal we could get for him is this one. we didn't want to pay him and the truth is that skinner is empty calories. if he's not scoring he's a total liability in every sense of the word and he has the same weaknesses he had when he came into the league, only exacerbated by them being habitual now as opposed to parts of his game you can potentially work out of him. erik cole said as much. they let skinner get away with far too much because his explosive offensive moments did a lot to apologize for the frustration penalties, perpetual beaking of officials, and zero defensive intensity. i hate to be so harsh, but this isn't a winning hockey player. the front office is sending a clear message that we're no longer in the business of paying through the nose for players that only play one end of the ice for fear of not being able to replace their counting stats. every time we have looked to jeff for leadership or to pull us through a tough time, he has come up short. not that it should be expected that he could take some of the teams he has played on to the playoffs or anything insane, but never have i ever had the thought "man, it's a shame that jeff skinner has never played a playoff game. he's perfectly suited for it." he's just not. he's just a guy that goes out, can't utilize his linemates, and is good for 5-6 insanely impressive individual efforts a season that are almost entirely a result of his offensive tunnel vision. if he pots 40 next year, it would be the least surprising season in history. because when you have guys that aren't all that interested in team success, the best season they'll ever have is the one before their biggest opportunity to cash out.

 

[Canes]

You can’t build around Skinner.

I didn't necessarily mean build around him as the centerpiece. We couldn't even build a solid foundation to build around the Staals, and they were a solid one-two punch at one point.

 

[Boats Ahoes]

This trade is bad, and I'd take 1 year of Skinner over this return.

But...

Our future outlook is still good. I would much rather have Svech, Hamilton, CDH and Fox than Skinner, Hanifin, Lindholm and Ryan. Next year it might be a wash, and long term it won't be close (not even accounting for existing prospects like Necas and Zykov). Imo this is a playoff team if we can get our goaltending to even 20th-25th league-wide.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I mean, maybe just the shake up of the locker room is going to make a difference. If Faulk can return a 30 goal scoring winger which I think he can get close to it, they've improved the defense and done a shakeup of the locker room. Another year of growth from Aho and adding Svechnikov can make the difference.

On top of that there is no way that Darling can be that terrible again this year.

Faulk won't be returning a 30-goal winger. If I were a betting man, I'd expect a similar return to this one. A prospect that might be something a few years down the road, and a bunch of unimpressive draft picks.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

The reaction on this board is astounding. Skinner is a player we never have, and never will, win with...but hey...keep crying like we lost Conner McDavid for a 7th rounder.

 

[tarheelhockey]

So Hamilton and De Haan, that’s nice.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

The reaction on this board is astounding. Skinner is a player we never have, and never will, win with...but hey...keep crying like we lost Conner McDavid for a 7th rounder.

The entire team is composed of players we've never won with. We've never won with Slavin, should we just give him away then?

 

[Svechhammer]

He might be able to score 30 but his defense was such a liability his value was garbage in the open market. And it certainly sounds like the organization was going to do whatever it took to ship him out of town this year, implying he's a bit of a lockerroom cancer. So... Yeah at least he's gone, and I'm not broken up about it.

And we just traded a defensive liability to one of the worst defensive teams in the league. He may score 30, but he'll be on the ice for 70 against on that team. At least now we have picks and a prospect to use in order to sweeten future deals. Hell, that 2nd will probably have low 1st value when we use it

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

The entire team is composed of players we've never won with. We've never won with Slavin, should we just give him away then?

Yeah, that's what I said.

 

[go comets]

Yes Skinner scored goals but he is a one dimensional player that is soft defensively. Not a guy that is going to lead his team on a long playoff run. A player that does not scare opponents.

He couldn't even lead this canes team to a playoff spot. Pretty sure Brindamour played a big part In Wanting him gone. Early 2nd round pick is just like a 1st round pick with the canes drafting record.

 

[tarheelhockey]

The reaction on this board is astounding. Skinner is a player we never have, and never will, win with...but hey...keep crying like we lost Conner McDavid for a 7th rounder.

Regardless whether you want to build a team around Skinner, it’s plain to see that this team got worse in the present and is unlikely to be better in the future as a result of making this deal. And we just gave a major hand to one of the teams that’s looking to leapfrog us for that last playoff spot this season.

Hey, maybe the Canes get lucky and vindicate your take by acquiring the next great scoring star, Cliff Pu. Otherwise, this is a day when the Canes took yet another step in the wrong direction. Fans are absolutely justified in being tired of this bull****.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

The entire team is composed of players we've never won with. We've never won with Slavin, should we just give him away then?

Williams won a Cup with us. So neiner neiner.

 

[tarheelhockey]

 

[Ole Gil]

This has to help the PP as well. Every time he passed the puck, it looked like it was a concept he had just learned at the morning skate.

 

[Svechhammer]

Regardless whether you want to build a team around Skinner, it’s plain to see that this team got worse in the present and is unlikely to be better in the future as a result of making this deal. And we just gave a major hand to one of the teams that’s looking to leapfrog us for that last playoff spot this season.

Hey, maybe the Canes get lucky and vindicate your take by acquiring the next great scoring star, Cliff Pu. Otherwise, this is a day when the Canes took yet another step in the wrong direction. Fans are absolutely justified in being tired of this bull****.

I think it's telling this team was willing to ship him out of town for the first opportunity he would accept. They wanted him gone at all costs. It's almost like we are thoroughly convinced we are a better team without him, regardless of return. Tired of his bullshit, just get him gone.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Interesting fact. With Skinner gone and Faulk likely gone, the longest tenured Canes will be:

Jordan Staal: 6 years with the team
Victor Rask: 4 years with the team
Slavin/Pesce/PDG/McGinn: 3 years with the team

Damn we are a young team.

 

[What the Faulk]

this skinner love is the equivalent of stockholm syndrome

We'll be fine. Hes like a year or two away from being the league's next Alex Semin

This is one of the worst posts in a long time on this board

 

[tarheelhockey]

I think it's telling this team was willing to ship him out of town for the first opportunity he would accept. They wanted him gone at all costs. It's almost like we are thoroughly convinced we are a better team without him, regardless of return. Tired of his bull****, just get him gone.

It’s almost like Skinner is the latest in a LONG string of players to perform at a fraction of their capacity before being “chased out” of Raleigh. How many times did that happen just in Skinner’s tenure?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

This is one of the worst posts in a long time on this board

Probably since the time we were defending the Semin contract

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Ouch.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

I've been saying for years that Skinner is a net negative hockey player. He doesn't help a team win. Scoring a bunch goals but giving up more even when he's playing sheltered minutes, in the mid-low 20s in assists every year because you can't use utilize your linemates, terrible in the shootout and overtime and the powerplay. He's not a good hockey player, period.

There's always been a disconnect with reality with Skinner amongst our fanbase:

Skinner sucks on the powerplay: why isn't Skinner getting more powerplay time?!?
Skinner sucks in the shootout (something like 16 straight failed opportunities going back 4+ seasons): why isn't Skinner is the shootout?
Skinner sucks at 3-on-3 (like 1 career 3-on-3 point and always turns the puck over): why isn't Skinner playing in overtime
Skinner gets bad linemates because he does nothing when he gets good linemates because he won't pass: Why isn't Skinner getting good linemates?

 

[Canes]

This is one of the worst posts in a long time on this board

Yeah I’d say the general enthusiasm about hiring Waddell and Brindy from within the organization after the franchise had proved to be inept for almost a decade was more Stockholm syndrome to me.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Yeah, that's what I said.

Oh, so when you make exaggerated hyperbole, it's fine, but can't handle it when responded in kind?

The way I see it, the Canes had a winner on their hands. Skinner was a highly touted goal-scorer, who had just lit up the OHL playoffs. And he showed he was the real deal during his rookie year. But years of losing took a toll on him, and much like Staal, he began to phone it in.

I don't mind trading him due to that. Everyone needs a change of scenery eventually. But we needed to get a decent return for him, because I believe (much like Staal), we'll see a resurgence from 53.

 

[bobc222]

Can someone explain why Skinner is so bad defensively? 2nd most takeaways in the league after MCDAVID. One of the TOP penalty drawers in the league. Also, Darling was in net and the center (who btw in hockey has the brunt of defensive responsibility) was DEREK RYAN. Can someone please find me a clip where Skinner is just standing around not covering the point??? (That's the winger's job)

 

[cptjeff]

A: F*** them.
B: That looks absolutely nothing like Skinner. There is literally nothing redeeming about it.