Confirmed Trade: [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations

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The idea that we got Walkman AND a 2nd for nothing is still the most baffling trade of Grier’s tenor. It’s like he hypnotized Yzerman.

When Walman was out, the team looked significantly worse. He’s been very, very good for us, probably the best D on the team. He’s a top 4 defenseman and is making the most of his opportunity on a bad team.
Forsling bounced around a bit before he established himself with the Panthers. There were GMs who even put him on waivers. So all GMs make mistakes. And it seems Yzerman made a mistake moving Walman. It’s just Yzerman seems to have a longer leash to make more mistakes than other GMs.
 
Dump Hronek because you fear he would be too expensive and he turns into a steady #2/3 guy.

Dump Walman for ???? And he blossoms into a top 4 dman.

idk. if im a Detroit fan, id probably be furious.
walman was a top 4 guy here lol but that was a horrible trade, but None of us in Detroit care about Hronek. He was a 2/3 guy here which you forget. But he’s the opposite of physical, always seemed to have lingering injuries here and played bad in big games. I would much much rather have ASP (who is an elite prospect) than Hronek. We also don’t have Quinn Hughes helping mask his deficiencies.
 
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walman was a top 4 guy here lol but that was a horrible trade, but None of us in Detroit care about Hronek. He was a 2/3 guy here which you forget. But he’s the opposite of physical, always seemed to have lingering injuries here and played bad in big games. I would much much rather have ASP (who is an elite prospect) than Hronek. We also don’t have Quinn Hughes helping mask his deficiencies.

Most of the fans in here now are fans of teams that has little to cheer for historically. It's why they are in this thread constantly. Let's give them this. :laugh:
 
walman was a top 4 guy here lol but that was a horrible trade, but None of us in Detroit care about Hronek. He was a 2/3 guy here which you forget. But he’s the opposite of physical, always seemed to have lingering injuries here and played bad in big games. I would much much rather have ASP (who is an elite prospect) than Hronek. We also don’t have Quinn Hughes helping mask his deficiencies.

You know nothing about Hronek.

He allows Hughes to be Hughes. Hughes is a monster, but Hronek has turned into a two way beast. He plays in every single situation for us and excels.

This season his defense has been better than his offense. If he was a 2/3 in Detroit, he's been nothing short of a legit #1 defenseman in Vancouver.
 
walman was a top 4 guy here lol but that was a horrible trade, but None of us in Detroit care about Hronek. He was a 2/3 guy here which you forget. But he’s the opposite of physical, always seemed to have lingering injuries here and played bad in big games. I would much much rather have ASP (who is an elite prospect) than Hronek. We also don’t have Quinn Hughes helping mask his deficiencies.
Don't you have Seider? I was with you until the last sentence. Or am I just misunderstanding? That's very possible. :laugh:
 
You know nothing about Hronek.

He allows Hughes to be Hughes. Hughes is a monster, but Hronek has turned into a two way beast. He plays in every single situation for us and excels.

This season his defense has been better than his offense. If he was a 2/3 in Detroit, he's been nothing short of a legit #1 defenseman in Vancouver.
Good for you guys, I still would want nothing to do with him on our team long term lol.

Don't you have Seider? I was with you until the last sentence. Or am I just misunderstanding? That's very possible. :laugh:
Quinn Hughes is better than seider and seider and Hronek are both RHD.
 
I wanted the Kings to trade for Walman when he looked great next to Seider and there were rumblings about his next contract. This trade still completely boggles my mind.
 
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Dump Hronek because you fear he would be too expensive and he turns into a steady #2/3 guy.

Dump Walman for ???? And he blossoms into a top 4 dman.

idk. if im a Detroit fan, id probably be furious.
Naw, Edvinsson is getting Walman's spot and looks great. Walman would be paired with Petry and probably getting dragged down hard. Probably best for Walman that he did get moved.

Hronek got us ASP and well looks amazing in SHL. In two years I don't think we are going to care to be honest.

Furious is what I get watching Chiarot, Petry, Holl and Gustafsson.
 
Dump Hronek because you fear he would be too expensive and he turns into a steady #2/3 guy.

Dump Walman for ???? And he blossoms into a top 4 dman.

idk. if im a Detroit fan, id probably be furious.
Hronek isn’t worth his contract and if Walman keeps this up he won’t be worth his next contract either. They also got Sandin-Pellikka from the Hronek trade. Yzerman has made mistakes but these trades aren’t among the more significant ones.
 
Naw, Edvinsson is getting Walman's spot and looks great. Walman would be paired with Petry and probably getting dragged down hard. Probably best for Walman that he did get moved.

Hronek got us ASP and well looks amazing in SHL. In two years I don't think we are going to care to be honest.

Furious is what I get watching Chiarot, Petry, Holl and Gustafsson.
Is there a limit to how many good defensemen a team can have? Walman would be an improvement on whatever other 2 LD the Wings trot out- Chiarot, Gustafsson, Johansson. You are right that it was best for Walman to be moved.

But it wasn't best for the DRW, which is kind Yzerman's job to think about.
 
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