Confirmed Trade: [SJS/DET] Jake Walman and 2024 2nd round pick for future considerations

[nbwingsfan]

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Can both sides agree that there is evidence something is up with him off the ice, but also that he’s at worst a decent player on the ice and far better than some of the garbage Detroit is icing?

Yes.

I can see why Yzerman wouldn’t want him on the team with so many young guys up and coming, but he’s still a pretty good #4/5D

 

[Hobnobs]

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Can both sides agree that there is evidence something is up with him off the ice, but also that he’s at worst a decent player on the ice and far better than some of the garbage Detroit is icing?

Yup, that's pretty much it I think. We don't know what he's like in the locker room or with management. He was bad in the second half last year though. So I wouldnt say far better than...

I don't always go on the Wings board but from what I saw it was a pretty heavy majority that liked him. Maybe he became a scapegoat at the end of the season and I missed it though

He fell out of favour during the second half last year. Maybe not to the extent that some wings fans tries to show in this thread but definitely looked bad and fans noticed it.

 

[Oddbob]

Decent player, wasn't working out in Detroit.. got moved with term so attached asset... chance to thrive and grow in San Jose, locker room issues in Detroit so he wasn't sticking around (like Vrana, Mantha, Bertuzzi to varrying degrees) I don't get why this thread continues to discuss this like it was a make or break moment for Detroit or Yzerman, or that he was some long tenured guy we got robbed of and had to ship out.

There were no locker room issues with Bert or Mantha. They were both well liked in Detroit.

 

[Oddbob]

There's a balance here in a situation like this between finding a way to make it work out vs just dumping a guy and watching him succeed elsewhere.

For me I don't know all the ins & outs of the Detroit lineup but it remains a topic of interest because as a Canuck fan we got Hronek in a similar manner and this just seems an extension of that. As Yzerman is trying to ice a competitive team I can't help but think they'd be much better off right now with a top 4 of Edvinsson-Seider Walman-Hronek. What they actually have just seems like an exercise in mediocrity by Yzerman.

You didn't get Hronek in a similar manner at all. Wings got assets for him and there was no locker room stuff about him at all. He was likely moved, because Steve didn't want to give him that kind of contract.

 

[Pavels Dog]

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Can both sides agree that there is evidence something is up with him off the ice, but also that he’s at worst a decent player on the ice and far better than some of the garbage Detroit is icing?

Detroit’s top 10 in (least) goals against.
Walman is being scratched for off-ice reasons on one of the worst NHL teams.

Can we stop both sides-ing this and have some people admit Yzerman had reason to move this dude?

 

[weastern bias]

Detroit’s top 10 in (least) goals against.
Walman is being scratched for off-ice reasons on one of the worst NHL teams.

Can we stop both sides-ing this and have some people admit Yzerman had reason to move this dude?

Walman has been scratched for one game this season, the Sharks gave up a season high 50 shots against that night, they were playing the Columbus Blue Jackets

It's safe to say that Walman has had quite a positive impact on the Sharks this year, this scratch is either related to off-ice issues, injury issues, or it's just as likely the youngest head coach in the league is making a mistake by making an example of his best impact D man rather than scratching one of the several boat anchors on the Sharks back end that routinely get caved in every night

 

[hohosaregood]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1855337134539919443

Just to clarify on this

 

[CaptainShark]

Much ado about nothing…

 

[gary559]

This trade was the blunder of the off season.

 

[Reality Czech]

This trade was the blunder of the off season.

He's a third pair guy on a contending team at best, but good for him for getting a bigger role on one of the weakest rosters in the league.

 

[A1LeafNation]

He's a third pair guy on a contending team at best, but good for him for getting a bigger role on one of the weakest rosters in the league.

Looking like a top 4 on a contender to be honest with potential to be top pair and #1PP option like Montour on Florida.

 

[JediOrderPizza]

What the hell are you guys smoking?

 

[Reality Czech]

Looking like a top 4 on a contender to be honest with potential to be top pair and #1PP option like Montour on Florida.

Which contender are you talking about? San Jose?

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Did he griddy on detroit's head last night?

 

[A1LeafNation]

Which contender are you talking about? San Jose?

Literally said 'like Montour on Florida'.

 

[hohosaregood]

Did he griddy on detroit's head last night?

He and Celebrini actually did a little griddy after the OT winner

 

[dgibb10]

He's a third pair guy on a contending team at best, but good for him for getting a bigger role on one of the weakest rosters in the league.

He is winning his minutes playing in san jose.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Walman needed to go so Yzerman could continue to build the Habs 20-21 D from their playoff run.

Unfortunately Weber retired, but Stevey Y still has time to add Brett Kulak, Jon Merill and Joel Edmundson to play with Petry, Chiarot and Gustafsson.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Detroit’s top 10 in (least) goals against.
Walman is being scratched for off-ice reasons on one of the worst NHL teams.

Can we stop both sides-ing this and have some people admit Yzerman had reason to move this dude?

It's not the fact that he moved him that's the problem.

It's the fact that he got literally NOTHING for him, AND gave away a 2nd round pick to do it.

 

[Oddbob]

Looking like a top 4 on a contender to be honest with potential to be top pair and #1PP option like Montour on Florida.

Potential? He is 28 years old.

 

[ShakenNotStirred]

Addition by subtraction. Sometimes you have to jettison toxic people (or so that was the rumor) from your lives and sometimes you pay for that privilege.

 

[norrisnick]

Looking like a top 4 on a contender to be honest with potential to be top pair and #1PP option like Montour on Florida.

He got healthy scratched by Detroit last year and San Jose this year. He's not playing on a contender any time soon.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Detroit’s top 10 in (least) goals against.
Walman is being scratched for off-ice reasons on one of the worst NHL teams.

Can we stop both sides-ing this and have some people admit Yzerman had reason to move this dude?

Walman is a little plump. How is his conditioning?

 

[matt trick]

He got healthy scratched by Detroit last year and San Jose this year. He's not playing on a contender any time soon.

He got scratched for breaking a team rule- missing an injury treatment- which was apparently a misunderstanding. Also he was injured for the subsequent 5 games so while he was punished, he was going to miss that game anyway.

He’s been key to the sharks recent solid run of form, and is our best dman by some distance. With Walman, Liljigren, Ceci, and Thompson added I’d say we’ve got a poor, but NHL caliber d. Last year, we did not.

 

[Jargon]

The idea that we got Walkman AND a 2nd for nothing is still the most baffling trade of Grier’s tenor. It’s like he hypnotized Yzerman.

When Walman was out, the team looked significantly worse. He’s been very, very good for us, probably the best D on the team. He’s a top 4 defenseman and is making the most of his opportunity on a bad team.