Speculation: Should the Canes explore the Goalie Market

[Cardiac Jerks]

What about Jack Campbell? Serious question.

How could this be a serious question?

Stunk it up massively in Edmonton, entered the player assistance program, hasn’t played a game all year…if Carolina just wants to add a random cheap goalie there are other guys without that baggage they could add.

Why on earth would they be interested in him?

 

[lionsDen]

Georgiev is available

 

[Frenzy31]

Reach out to the blues for Hofer.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Take Nedeljkovic back for another go, Pens will take the reject Suzuki sibling and the Canes can also have Poulin.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I've wanted to see what Gibson could do on a better team. If Anaheim takes 50% (which they likely won't) I'd listen.

Always wanted Gibson to come back home but the idea I had in my head was the Pens fire Sully this past summer, get Gibson for Jarry ++ and he bounces back with the new coach and a Pens team with more youth in the line up. Ah well...Gibson would be an incredible add for anyone. Surprised the Avs haven't made a play for him yet.

 

[Chan790]

Take Nedeljkovic back for another go, Pens will take the reject Suzuki sibling and the Canes can also have Poulin.

That feels very lopsided in the Canes favor.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

That feels very lopsided in the Canes favor.

Not really when you consider the Canes don't really want Ned, particularly with a 2nd year on his deal

 

[Chrispy]

Not really when you consider the Canes don't really want Ned, particularly with a 2nd year on his deal

Yes, the question becomes does Carolina want to plan on Kochetkov / Nedeljkovic next year? If not, that is a $1.35M cap hit to bury Nedeljkovic.

If they are making a multi-year move I think they aim higher. If they make a single year move it could be anyone with equipment.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Yes, the question becomes does Carolina want to plan on Kochetkov / Nedeljkovic next year? If not, that is a $1.35M cap hit to bury Nedeljkovic.

If they are making a multi-year move I think they aim higher. If they make a single year move it could be anyone with equipment.

Ned is definitely not the answer but Canes do need to do something here. Already 2 or 3 games have been lost this year because Martin was in net instead of Kochetkov or a competent goaltender. Canes are scoring consistently this year but can’t outscore this problem every night especially against good teams with good goalies.

The sooner they find a solution the more cushion they can add to their point total

 

[Savant]

The Canes have a ton of assets, and roughly 20m coming off the cap this summer that they can replace internally with ELCs. They should be shooting the moon here. They should be adding a top goalie AND be sniffing around another top line forward; they are one of the few teams that might be able to do both.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Opposing goalie performance in series that Carolina has lost:

Year	Goalie	SV%	GAA
2019​	Rask	0.956​	1.25​
2020​	Halak (3 GP)	0.932​	1.67​
2020​	Rask (2 GP)	0.889​	2.58​
2021​	Vasilevskiy	0.94​	1.77​
2022​	Shesterkin	0.949​	1.72​
2023​	Bobrovsky	0.966​	1.12​
2024​	Shesterkin	0.919​	2.8​

2024 was really the first time in which Carolina's goaltending had a meaningful impactful on the series. Other years, they've been scapegoats for that chunk of hockey fans that fixate on the position. They've been provided little run support. That's on the skaters, particularly the core forwards that have been a part of the powerplay that has let them down again and again and again.

I'll take my chances with Kochetkov and Andersen no problem. Load up on that forward group. Maybe they can build overwhelming depth 5v5 to overcome another special teams meltdown.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Opposing goalie performance in series that Carolina has lost:

Year	Goalie	SV%	GAA
2019​	Rask	0.956​	1.25​
2020​	Halak (3 GP)	0.932​	1.67​
2020​	Rask (2 GP)	0.889​	2.58​
2021​	Vasilevskiy	0.94​	1.77​
2022​	Shesterkin	0.949​	1.72​
2023​	Bobrovsky	0.966​	1.12​
2024​	Shesterkin	0.919​	2.8​

2024 was really the first time in which Carolina's goaltending had a meaningful impactful on the series. Other years, they've been scapegoats for that chunk of hockey fans that fixate on the position. They've been provided little run support. That's on the skaters, particularly the core forwards that have been a part of the powerplay that has let them down again and again and again.

I'll take my chances with Kochetkov and Andersen no problem. Load up on that forward group. Maybe they can build overwhelming depth 5v5 to overcome another special teams meltdown.

It's fair to say that while he held his own for most of the playoffs, Raanta fell apart the last 2 games in 2022 against the Rangers so Goaltending definitely had a meaningful impact on that series, but in general, I agree with you. Special teams has been the overwhelming problem in the playoffs.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

It's fair to say that while he held his own for most of the playoffs, Raanta fell apart the last 2 games in 2022 against the Rangers so Goaltending definitely had a meaningful impact on that series, but in general, I agree with you. Special teams has been the overwhelming problem in the playoffs.

Came to say this. Agree with the sentiment of the post but Canes should have won the series against the Rangers for a number of reasons. Raanta played great until he didn’t and there was no safety net. Kind of same (to a degree) with Andersen against the Rangers last year. Yes, better goaltending wins us that series but it really wasn’t until game 6 until it really unravelled. A real shame because Canes were half a period away from bringing that 3-0 series deficit to game 7 with all the momentum in the world.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

It's fair to say that while he held his own for most of the playoffs, Raanta fell apart the last 2 games in 2022 against the Rangers so Goaltending definitely had a meaningful impact on that series, but in general, I agree with you. Special teams has been the overwhelming problem in the playoffs.

It's a fair point, but I feel that framing downplays his contributions in that series leading up to it. His statline (.917/2.17) for the round was very similar to that of Vasilevskiy (.919/2,35) in the conference finals. NST's all strengths GSAA was +2.61. The skaters gave him little chance to be average or have an off game. In the 3 wins, none of which were blowouts, he gave up 2 GA total.

 

[jjniner]

If you put a really good package together, you may be able to entice the Blues to trade Binnington!

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Lyon?

900k, UFA.

 

[Mase]

The Canes have a problem in goal at the moment, yes, but the folks who watch the team will tell you they have a bigger problem with regards to their top
guys not playing like top guys when the real grinding starts.

Their Goalies will heal, they will have plenty of time to right their ship in that regard, the bigger problem doesn't have a clear-cut answer.

I have great respect for that team and know what they are very capable of, but that GM better be VERY careful of the moves he does or does not make at the deadline this year.

 

[Pablo El Perro]

The Canes have a problem in goal at the moment, yes, but the folks who watch the team will tell you they have a bigger problem with regards to their top
guys not playing like top guys when the real grinding starts.

Their Goalies will heal, they will have plenty of time to right their ship in that regard, the bigger problem doesn't have a clear-cut answer.

I have great respect for that team and know what they are very capable of, but that GM better be VERY careful of the moves he does or does not make at the deadline this year.

I'm also not sure about Rod spreading out the top liners as much as he has lately. Playing Svetch on the 4th line does make the team deeper, but worse up top.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

It's a fair point, but I feel that framing downplays his contributions in that series leading up to it. His statline (.917/2.17) for the round was very similar to that of Vasilevskiy (.919/2,35) in the conference finals. NST's all strengths GSAA was +2.61. The skaters gave him little chance to be average or have an off game. In the 3 wins, none of which were blowouts, he gave up 2 GA total.

All true, but that's the nature of the playoffs, particularly round 2 or 3. There aren't huge margins when you have relative even teams. I think it's fair to say was very good, until he wasn't. When he wasn't good, it was a significant contribution to the the team getting ousted.

 

[banks]

The Canes should be "exploring" the goalie market the same way a dangling rock climber "explores" a cliff face for a hand-hold.

I don't understand how they haven't made a move yet. This is as desperate as a goaltending situation gets!

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

The Canes should be "exploring" the goalie market the same way a dangling rock climber "explores" a cliff face for a hand-hold.

I don't understand how they haven't made a move yet. This is as desperate as a goaltending situation gets!

24 games into the regular season and sitting in 5th place in the league is “as desperate as it gets”?

Reallllllly?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

24 games into the regular season and sitting in 5th place in the league is “as desperate as it gets”?

Reallllllly?

But to be fair we legit could be in 1st place if we had an NHL caliber goalie starting instead of Spencer Martin right now.

 

[banks]

24 games into the regular season and sitting in 5th place in the league is “as desperate as it gets”?

Reallllllly?

Yes, it is. Because this Canes team has the potential to make a serious run in the postseason. Playoff seeding matters. And every game they toss in the garbage because of Spencer Martin is going to matter.

Carolina is 2 points behind 1st in the Metro. Those 2 points could be the difference between a round 1 match against the Devils (who are really good and deep) or the Flyers (who are just happy t be here). That matters.

If they let this go much longer, Carolina could borderline be flushing their season away. Spencer Martin has never proven to be NHL caliber. The dude is 29 and has struggled since he was in the AHL 3 years ago.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Yes, it is. Because this Canes team has the potential to make a serious run in the postseason. Playoff seeding matters. And every game they toss in the garbage because of Spencer Martin is going to matter.

Carolina is 2 points behind 1st in the Metro. Those 2 points could be the difference between a round 1 match against the Devils (who are really good and deep) or the Flyers (who are just happy t be here). That matters.

If they let this go much longer, Carolina could borderline be flushing their season away. Spencer Martin has never proven to be NHL caliber. The dude is 29 and has struggled since he was in the AHL 3 years ago.

So an injury post trade deadline or even in the playoffs themselves would not be more desperate?

Canes need to do something for sure but they have time. You’re being overly dramatic.

 

[Gliff]

I would do Gibson at 50%, but I would want a real return.