Proposal: Should Rangers trade one of Laf/Kakko for a cup run ?

[Zats Muccarello]

Can we outlaw these ridiculous threads?

 

[CupSeeker]

NO WAY

 

[ViD]

Not sure what OP's #1 sport, is but it may not be hockey.
Judging NHL players' career arc, by their age 19 or 20 seasons, is indisputably unreliable

and Rangers don't need to look far to be confident it may be worth the wait, see these 6 examples among their top players:

Panarin - undrafted in'10,'11; in KHL thru '14-15, joins NHL as he is turning 24
Fox - drafted in '16, joins NHL after D+3
Shestyerkin - drafted in '14, stayed 5 seasons in Russia, came to NA as he was turning 24
Zibenajad - drafted in '11, had 1st 20 G season at D+4, first 50 point season D+5
Strome - drafted '11, despite being 5thOA, spent next 2 seasons back in O, had breakout season D+4
Kreider drafted '09, D+1 thru D+3 at BC, first really productive season D+5

Kakko and Laf are doing their development in the NHL,
but their value remains in what they will become, not their counting stats before turning 21

out-of-town fans want to compare them to other recent top pick Fs,
but most of those guys didn't join teams with 5 star F's ahead of them on roster, and hardly any PP time
NYR are confident in their potential and have no urgency to make foolish too-soon moves

You are comparing them to guys either not drafted or drafted in later rounds. We are talking #1 and #2 overall!

of course there’s plenty of guys that will blossom later in their career, but first - you don’t know when and who and second - you can’t fetch anything for them.

For Kakko and Laf the Rangers can acquire proven roster players on decent contract to help with their cup window which seems to be opening finally. But keep in mind the core of Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider are all about to get to the wrong side of 30s and how long the window will open is a big question

 

[CupSeeker]

Rags are not a cup contender. At least 4 eastern teams are better than them. 3 of them by a lot.

Who are these Rags you speak of? A team at the top of their division deserves more respect than this, even if it hurts to give it.

 

[alwaysBlue]

I’d happily give up VT for Kakko

 

[ViD]

Why do they desperately need another top 4 d-man? You can’t allocate that much cap to the D especially when you’re trading away a cheap forward

From reading Rangers threads, I made a conclusion that you are lacking a top 4 LHD and a top 6 RW

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Why do you think it's ok to absolutely dismiss this dudes post? I see alot of this on here. Like this dude took the time to write his question. It may not be a good one to you but this is a message board and people like him keep them relevant. Your quite rude.

Because it's nonsensical and deserving of being completely dismissed.

 

[Mandalorian]

Cole Caufield
Tyler Toffoli
Ben Chiarot 50% retained


Alexis Lafreniere
Vitali Kravtsov

IMO can't miss trade for Rangers.

 

[TD Charlie]

There are a dozen teams that could say adding a top 6 forward and a 2/3 D would put them in contention

The Rangers aren’t the only team in this position

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Keep them both.. these 2 kids have huge potential and the beauty part of it all is that they won't get big 2nd contracts

IMO NYR is sitting pretty with them right now

It's all about the Cap

 

[cheech70]

Laf is close...Kaako needs a therapist

 

[Ironworker]

Because it's nonsensical and deserving of being completely dismissed.

In your opinion.... who are you?

 

[Mikachu93]

Cole Caufield
Tyler Toffoli
Ben Chiarot 50% retained


Alexis Lafreniere
Vitali Kravtsov

IMO can't miss trade for Rangers.

The Rangers would say no to this even in NHL 22 Franchise mode, with the trade setting set to "easy".

 

[Zats Muccarello]

Cole Caufield
Tyler Toffoli
Ben Chiarot 50% retained


Alexis Lafreniere
Vitali Kravtsov

IMO can't miss trade for Rangers.

come on man

 

[Mikachu93]

From reading Rangers threads, I made a conclusion that you are lacking a top 4 LHD and a top 6 RW

Lacking a 2RW really. Top 4 LHD upgrade would be more of a luxury than a "need".

Lindgren - Fox + Miller -Trouba is a great top 4. The problem is really the bottom pair and finding a player that is better than Nemeth to play with any one of our rookie defensemen.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Can we outlaw these ridiculous threads?

we should outlaw, and gulag these members who make threads like this

 

[TheBloodyNine]

In your opinion.... who are you?

Someone who lives in reality

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Cole Caufield
Tyler Toffoli
Ben Chiarot 50% retained


Alexis Lafreniere
Vitali Kravtsov

IMO can't miss trade for Rangers.

IMO Miss me with this trade

 

[Mandalorian]

The Rangers would say no to this even in NHL 22 Franchise mode, with the trade setting set to "easy".

Not if we throw in a 2nd and a 3rd on top of the package offered. Easily go throught in franchise mode.

 

[Mandalorian]

IMO Miss me with this trade

Missing on the package deal of a lifetime.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

we should outlaw, and gulag these members who make threads like this

where do i sign up

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Missing on the package deal of a lifetime.

Our loss.

 

[Ironworker]

Someone who lives in reality

Well evidently one of a heightened sense of importance lol. Just leave the guy alone. You dont like domt be rude is all.

 

[Funk21]

The sooner they realize it, the better, but they have two upcoming busts on their hands.

Both Kakko and Lafreniere are not living up to their potential and on many nights look so bad that one would think the only reason they’re playing is their draft status.

However, besides them, New York Rangers are composed extremely well and it shows with standings.

The Rangers are one - two key pieces away from a cup run. I believe they need one top 4 defender and a top 6 RW to go all the way.

Is it time to ship Laf or Kakko to Arizona to get Chuchryn ? Or are there other good deals ?

No, it buys you more time by offering just a bridge deal. The kids are solid and just need seasoning. Look at Poolparty now. If you are going to explore Chychrun wait until the offseason and look at Georgiev as part of that base offer.

 

[MisterT]

I would easily trade Kakko for Chychrun. He’s a top 2 LHD on a great contract that Rangers desperately need

Arizona won't.