Proposal: Should Rangers trade one of Laf/Kakko for a cup run ?

[boredmale]

I said before the season the Rangers should have went all out for Eichel and offered Laf, he is exactly what they needed. Elite #1 centers generally don't come up on the market that often(like every 5+ years)

 

[Baby Punisher]

The sooner they realize it, the better, but they have two upcoming busts on their hands.

Both Kakko and Lafreniere are not living up to their potential and on many nights look so bad that one would think the only reason they’re playing is their draft status.

However, besides them, New York Rangers are composed extremely well and it shows with standings.

The Rangers are one - two key pieces away from a cup run. I believe they need one top 4 defender and a top 6 RW to go all the way.

Is it time to ship Laf or Kakko to Arizona to get Chuchryn ? Or are there other good deals ?

These guys were billed as Malkin and Crosby and what we got are Daige and Faloon.

 

[ViD]

I said before the season the Rangers should have went all out for Eichel and offered Laf, he is exactly what they needed. Elite #1 centers generally don't come up on the market that often(like every 5+ years)

Fully agree

 

[Kshahdoo]

Laf for Buchnevich?

 

[JoemAvs]

The time to trade one of them (++++) was when Eichel was on the market.
Sure Pegula and the Sabres really did not want to see him play in New York but considering for how little he ultimately got dealt, the Rangers could have easily made an offer they couldn't refuse built around one of these guys as the centerpiece. I have a feeling the Rangers will regret not doing that for quite a while in the future considering the career trajectory of these 2 (don't expect them to bust but I also do not really expect any of them to turn into superstar players anylonger).

Now they are stuck with what I believe is an ugly contract in Zibanejads mega extension and their youth they have been so in love with is not getting the time/development needed and is losing value while they still don't look like a serious contender (even though they have the goalie to take them far IMO so I could actually see them make a cinderella run that takes them far) and their key guys in Panarin/Trouba/Kreider/Zib that are on megabucks are getting older and once Fox gets paid they will be in caphell as well.

 

[is the answer jesus]

The time to trade one of them (++++) was when Eichel was on the market.
Sure Pegula and the Sabres really did not want to see him play in New York but considering for how little he ultimately got dealt, the Rangers could have easily made an offer they couldn't refuse built around one of these guys as the centerpiece. I have a feeling the Rangers will regret not doing that for quite a while in the future considering the career trajectory of these 2 (don't expect them to bust but I also do not really expect any of them to turn into superstar players anylonger).

Now they are stuck with what I believe is an ugly contract in Zibanejads mega extension and their youth they have been so in love with is not getting the time/development needed and is losing value while they still don't look like a serious contender (even though they have the goalie to take them far IMO so I could actually see them make a cinderella run that takes them far) and their key guys in Panarin/Trouba/Kreider/Zib that are on megabucks are getting older and once Fox gets paid they will be in caphell as well.

I don't know that either player would have held all that much appeal to Buffalo especially as a centerpiece. If there's one strength in Buffalo's pipeline it's on the wings. I think they prioritized getting someone they thought could be a long-term top 6 center in the Eichel deal and the best package they could get that included a player with that ceiling was that Vegas package with Krebs in it.

 

[Crashsunday]

Should let them marinate in AHL and earn their spot on the big club.

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Should let them marinate in AHL and earn their spot on the big club.

Last year Hartford played like 20 games. Even for the guys who did well there like Morgan Barron, I don't think it was that great for their development

 

[jay from jersey]

I don't know that either player would have held all that much appeal to Buffalo especially as a centerpiece. If there's one strength in Buffalo's pipeline it's on the wings. I think they prioritized getting someone they thought could be a long-term top 6 center in the Eichel deal and the best package they could get that included a player with that ceiling was that Vegas package with Krebs in it.

The time to trade one of them (++++) was when Eichel was on the market.
Sure Pegula and the Sabres really did not want to see him play in New York but considering for how little he ultimately got dealt, the Rangers could have easily made an offer they couldn't refuse built around one of these guys as the centerpiece. I have a feeling the Rangers will regret not doing that for quite a while in the future considering the career trajectory of these 2 (don't expect them to bust but I also do not really expect any of them to turn into superstar players anylonger).

Now they are stuck with what I believe is an ugly contract in Zibanejads mega extension and their youth they have been so in love with is not getting the time/development needed and is losing value while they still don't look like a serious contender (even though they have the goalie to take them far IMO so I could actually see them make a cinderella run that takes them far) and their key guys in Panarin/Trouba/Kreider/Zib that are on megabucks are getting older and once Fox gets paid they will be in caphell as well.

nyr likely had a better offer in place...
It’s really not a coincidence that we have the same amount of cap space still available this season that could have fit eichel.
The pegulas/Adams didn’t want to deal Eichel to an East team, let alone another NY team and watch him have success there.
I’m higher on LaF then I am on kakko. LaF already has a lot of stuff that’s going to make for a real solid player. Shot/size/physical, etc but he needs top 6 minutes and he needs to work on his lower leg strength/skating.
He’s not getting that extra second or 2 of separation to get that great wrister off. There’s no explosion in his feet.
The good thing is it’s not terribly hard to fix. We saw kakko literally become a tremendous skater from a terrible one in a year. So I’m hoping LaF has a similar offseason.
LaF imo can absolutely still be a PPG wing. But I think kakko will get to that offensively. I could be wrong.... but LaF just has better hands/shot/vision imo

 

[Stubu]

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Laf for Buchnevich?

Nah, Kakko for Kravtsov.

[Edit: Jebus, what did you have in there?]

 

[wintersej]

Except Seguin was traded for other reasons if I recall correctly. He had 67 points in his 2nd season. Neither Laf or Kakko are putting up anywhere close to those numbers so I have my doubts if we have another Seguin specifically on our hands. I probably wouldn't trade them though, you'd just be selling low.

67 points in a system that meant that was best on the team. Seguin is an awful comparison. Seguin was a good player that they didn’t think should be “the franchise”.

 

[Savant]

I said before the season the Rangers should have went all out for Eichel and offered Laf, he is exactly what they needed. Elite #1 centers generally don't come up on the market that often(like every 5+ years)

Wouldn’t have mattered. Pegula didn’t want Buffalo sending him to the Rangers, especially after the billboards. Wouldn’t pick up the phone.

 

[Columbus Jack]

67 points in a system that meant that was best on the team. Seguin is an awful comparison. Seguin was a good player that they didn’t think should be “the franchise”.

If you read what I wrote I basically said comparing Laf/Kakko to Seguin is a terrible comparison. He had already accomplished a lot more than those two in his 2nd season.

 

[wintersej]

If you read what I wrote I basically said comparing Laf/Kakko to Seguin is a terrible comparison. He had already accomplished a lot more than those two in his 2nd season.

Yes I was agreeing with you.

 

[SlafCaufield]

they should have traded both for Eichel lol now both of them keep trending towards Bust nation

 

[Zach716]

they should have traded both for Eichel lol now both of them keep trending towards Bust nation

I remember when a big chunk of their fanbase absolutely balked at including not both, but even just 1 of them in a potential deal. Now Vegas is gonna have a top 5 center to go on a run for the next 5 years. The bluest of blue chips!

 

[bernmeister]

I remember when a big chunk of their fanbase absolutely balked at including not both, but even just 1 of them in a potential deal. Now Vegas is gonna have a top 5 center to go on a run for the next 5 years. The bluest of blue chips!

Happy to have both KK and LaF and see how that works out over the next 5 yrs given cap hit and Eich neck, which thank God, presumably is 111% healed but going forward this is a pricey asset at risk from one solid hit

 

[Dr Danglefest]

Maybe Kakko if the deal is right

would not give up on Laf waaaay too early

 

[KingKempe9]

Laf to Kings would be good. We don't have much on wings coming through. Have plenty of centre and D prospects we could swap. A few of Vilardi ,Turcotte, JAD Kupari, Madden, Grans etc. Not sure if 2 or 3 good centre/D prospects would be a good swap

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

I like the idea of Laf to Philly. No idea on the return, but Giroux would be part of it. I just figure Philly needs someone to build around, Laf could maybe use a fresh start. Either that or the Stars, those are the two teams that just a complete redo around a young potential star player.

 

[Perennial]

All options should be explored... whether they should trade them depends entirely on the return