Value of: Should Rangers trade Lafreniere?

[StlBill]

Even though we’re in a win now/cup mode, if Vladdy still wants a trade, we’ll swap you Tarasenko for this kid. I think putting him with Thomas and Kyrou would find out real quick what the kid's got...

 

[Taluss]

f*** no. Not a chance. Would never get appropriate value for him.

 

[SensFactor]

Yes trade him to Ottawa. Laf & Stutzle would be awesome! Can't believe there is trade talk on Laf in general. He's just a kid.

 

[Kurrilino]

Yes trade him to Ottawa. Laf & Stutzle would be awesome!

I think all of us know who they would ask for in return

 

[Chainshot]

The "no" is not strong enough. If there is a revision, I'd like to nominate "f*** no, are you lit?" as an option and be placed in that category for my vote.

 

[SensFactor]

I think all of us know who they would ask for in return

Yes but Sanderson is off limits unfortunately.

 

[McDuffz88]

Why on earth would the Rangers trade him NOW? His value is FAR from what it was immediately after that draft, and what it will most likely become in the future unless he fizzles out like Yakupov but we are quite far away from that scenario at this point and time.

I would not say time is on his side. If he goes into his 3rd season putting up similar numbers I fear he's a much bigger bust then Yakupav. Guy is on his 2nd season & looks lost out there.

 

[McDuffz88]

Look at Jack Hughes. 1st overall, “underperformed” ads rookie due to the hype. Improved Sophmore season. Now look at him…. PPG player. People need to chill out. There’s a difference between franchise players and GENERATIONAL talents. Only the latter come in at 18 and dominate. They’re the prodigies of hockey

Theres a massive difference between Hughes & Lafreniere. Hughes in his rookie year while struggling had flashes of being elite. Each season his production has greatly improved. Lafreniere on the other hand has never flashed elite skill. He plays like a very average player & that's not what you want to see from a 1st overall. Not only does he play average but his production has actually declined from his 1st year. So the Hughes comparison is a horrible take. They aren't remotely similar.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Theres a massive difference between Hughes & Lafreniere. Hughes in his rookie year while struggling had flashes of being elite. Each season his production has greatly improved. Lafreniere on the other hand has never flashed elite skill. He plays like a very average player & that's not what you want to see from a 1st overall. Not only does he play average but his production has actually declined from his 1st year. So the Hughes comparison is a horrible take. They aren't remotely similar.[/QUOTE
Dude…trying to shame posts… please. take into consideration playing style AND most importantly the times man. Hughes added 10 points in five less games. Solid improvement but don’t overdo it. The writers were still calling Hughes a bust. Tough to gauge ELCs with so many variables. For all I know you also say Suzuki is a bust…I get disagreeing, but no need to add. It’s a fair comparison. I believe Lafreniere will settle in. He’s not a flashy style like Hughes. He’s more of a power game.

 

[xxsciroccoxx]

As a Habs fan who wants him, I voted yes lol

 

[HyperX]

That's a cool opinion and judgement after 92 games, half being in a covid season with no training camp. I guess he's better than Power though, that 1st overall isn't even playing in the NHL yet

Owen Power is a better player today than Alexis Lafreniere

 

[Anthony5967]

Yeah and he looks terrible. He needs to be demoted to the AHL because the rangers are killing his development, leaving him on the third line and struggling. Let him be a star in the A and build his confidence back.

I usually suspect that those who makes these comments practice by smashing their own head off the wall a few times before typing.

 

[Anthony5967]

Not sure but I posted this one in a thread and they hated it... I think the value is there. Gives the Rangers improvements now for their playoffs and also gives them a shot at drafting a center which they need IMO.

* Habs 1st (unprotected)
* Chiarot (50% retention)
* Lehkonen
* Harris
for
* Lafreniere
* Rangers 1st (lottery protection if required)
* Rangers 2023 2nd rounder
* Kravtsov

Habs top 5 pick vs Lafreniere
Chiarot vs 1st
Lehkonen vs 2nd
Harris vs Kravtsov

The value is there? This is wretched. The Rangers don't need Harris.

 

[MakoSlade]

You don’t trade a 1st OA pick in his second season for a year and a half rental player.

I certainly wouldn't trade Laf at this point, but Miller to the Rangers would not be a rental...they would have a great chance to resign him.

 

[Habs10025]

hmmmm. I actually like this. Would the Rags do Habs 2022 1st (unprotected) + 2 x 2022 3rd's for Laf?

I would be willing to part with that from a Habs POV. Especially if we acquire another 1st or two via Chairot, Gally or Allen

Montreal reject this trade.

 

[McDuffz88]

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[McDuffz88]

Dude…trying to shame posts… please. take into consideration playing style AND most importantly the times man. Hughes added 10 points in five less games. Solid improvement but don’t overdo it. The writers were still calling Hughes a bust. Tough to gauge ELCs with so many variables. For all I know you also say Suzuki is a bust…I get disagreeing, but no need to add. It’s a fair comparison. I believe Lafreniere will settle in. He’s not a flashy style like Hughes. He’s more of a power game.

Im not shame posting I'm just stating the facts. Why would I say Suzuki is a bust? Suzuki is a great player. How are you comparing Lafreniere to Suzuki? Suzuki plays at a .62 pace while playing the more important position at center. Lafreniere is averaging .34 (deflating by the day). Suzuki was also drafted 13th overall not 1st like Alexis Lafreniere.

 

[Habs10025]

Montreal won't be trading for Lafreniere .
Lafreniere will remain with the NYR and if he reaches his full potential he will likely be a player much like Taylor Hall .

 

[franste Perreault]

Ny Rangers GM need to wait after playoff to decide if he want to move Lafreniere. Now it's too risky, Lafreniere is a big guy a little bit slow for nhl season but in playoff it's more slower and physic. I think he can explode in playoff

 

[EdJovanovski]

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Im not shame posting I'm just stating the facts. Why would I say Suzuki is a bust? Suzuki is a great player. How are you comparing Lafreniere to Suzuki? Suzuki plays at a .62 pace while playing the more important position at center. Lafreniere is averaging .34 (deflating by the day). Suzuki was also drafted 13th overall not 1st like Alexis Lafreniere.

Lafreniere started at 18. Not Suzuki. What I meant by that, is that there people claiming Suzuki is a bust because he’s not a true 1 center…. While on a shut team and on his ELC. Laf is still a kid man. On his ELC. I just don’t sell top picks short while on an ELC. He plays a good game, and I’m confident will become a SOLID first liner. Funny enough Kakko in NY faced the same criticism. Maybe it’s a team/ coaching issue dude. These kids need to develop.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

I certainly wouldn't trade Laf at this point, but Miller to the Rangers would not be a rental...they would have a great chance to resign him.

With what cap space?

 

[Sniper99]

Should HF have patience for once?

Yes

No

 

[Captain Mountain]

While its way too early to be overly critical of Lafreniere, its worth pointing out that you can't ignore special teams play, the underlying numbers were much more favourable to Hall and Mackinnon, and Lafreniere is shooting almost 23% at 5v5 (he's got a great shot, but that's at least an order of magnitude better than peak 5v5 s% season from Matthews, and far better than guys like Ovechkin's and Laine's best 5v5 s% seasons.

 

[CupSeeker]

Theres a massive difference between Hughes & Lafreniere. Hughes in his rookie year while struggling had flashes of being elite. Each season his production has greatly improved. Lafreniere on the other hand has never flashed elite skill. He plays like a very average player & that's not what you want to see from a 1st overall. Not only does he play average but his production has actually declined from his 1st year. So the Hughes comparison is a horrible take. They aren't remotely similar.

Hughes also had many flashes of really bad giveaways which have also increased year over year. Laf doesn't show the flash but he plays a solid 200 foot game. I know he should be expected to do more offensively as a #1 overall. I expect that he will as we move along. His team wins so he can develop at his pace.