Value of: Should Rangers trade Lafreniere?

[Sniper99]

When McDavid gets fed up in Edmonton he'll be a very nice centrepiece in the McDavid to the New York Rangers trade.

Thats quite the delusional crystal ball

according to all the HF know it alls hes a lock for Toronto, where have you been?

 

[Leafshater67]

I usually suspect that those who makes these comments practice by smashing their own head off the wall a few times before typing.

Have you watched him play? It’s pretty clear that he’s lost. He cannot play his game at that speed and he’s not going to learn playing sheltered minutes on the third line. Plus you don’t leave a first overall pick to rot on the bottom 6 and expect any success.

Send him down and let him properly develop. It’s a no brainer. I would have sent him down long ago to build confidence and learn by being the go to guy in the AHL vs rotting away playing sheltered minutes and looking bad.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Thats quite the delusional crystal ball

according to all the HF know it alls hes a lock for Toronto, where have you been?

Probably stops there towards the end of his career. I just see McDavid to the Rangers when he's fed up.

 

[bernmeister]

Even though we’re in a win now/cup mode, if Vladdy still wants a trade, we’ll swap you Tarasenko for this kid. I think putting him with Thomas and Kyrou would find out real quick what the kid's got...

not interested, thanks

 

[bernmeister]

Yes trade him to Ottawa. Laf & Stutzle would be awesome! Can't believe there is trade talk on Laf in general. He's just a kid.

Yes but Sanderson is off limits unfortunately.

no deal to consider w/o Sandy

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I honestly have so many questions as to how this same player even put up so many points in juniors. At the NHL level, he's shown zero plus skills, unless finishing into an empty net counts. His skating isn't going to separate him and he seems to think the game as slow as he moves.

 

[bernmeister]

I honestly have so many questions as to how this same player even put up so many points in juniors. At the NHL level, he's shown zero plus skills, unless finishing into an empty net counts. His skating isn't going to separate him and he seems to think the game as slow as he moves.

His skating is the ONLY weak link and when that continues to improve to a sufficient level, all will be fine

 

[Jersey Fresh]

His skating is the ONLY weak link and when that continues to improve to a sufficient level, all will be fine

I'm not sure about that, but we'll see. I think the skating being the big weak link thing has more application to Kakko than it does Lafreniere. Like I said, in terms of projectable plus skills I can't pick one out for Lafreniere - can you?

 

[bernmeister]

I'm not sure about that, but we'll see. I think the skating being the big weak link thing has more application to Kakko than it does Lafreniere. Like I said, in terms of projectable plus skills I can't pick one out for Lafreniere - can you?

@jay from jersey did an excellent analysis of this somewhere.

He is looking good w/Strome atm b'c while offensively gifted, Strome is an average skater at best and they are presently in the same zone.

smart play is to expedite his development and keep the LaF-Chytil-Gauthier line

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

yeah I think better trade him and recoup partial value rather than being stuck with nothing. on pace for 24 points in his 2nd NHL leason after a pretty bad 1st season is giving me any confidence. Besides it is not like we are desperate for LW, it is not a difficult position to fill. Chytil on the other hand is someone I wouldn't trade, he plays great. Kakko I am on the fence with for now.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Laf for Barzal.

 

[1909]

too early to make such a move.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Laf for Barzal.

That would be a good deal I think.

 

[TradeAllStromes]

no he has actual future, unlike strome who needs gone now!

 

[jrs]

If Jets fail to make the playoffs this year, Scheifele should be traded and he is exactly what the rangers need.

 

[ViD]

They need to trade him asap like they traded Buch for some bottom 6 scrub and a second. Losing value by the day !

 

[Donuts]

fine

laf + 1st for halak, benning, green and a 3rd

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Lafreniere + Strome to Chicago for Dach+ Reichel + Connelly (cap dump) + 2nd + 3rd + 7th. What do you think?

 

[Canadienna]

Not sure but I posted this one in a thread and they hated it... I think the value is there. Gives the Rangers improvements now for their playoffs and also gives them a shot at drafting a center which they need IMO.

* Habs 1st (unprotected)
* Chiarot (50% retention)
* Lehkonen
* Harris
for
* Lafreniere
* Rangers 1st (lottery protection if required)
* Rangers 2023 2nd rounder
* Kravtsov

Habs top 5 pick vs Lafreniere
Chiarot vs 1st
Lehkonen vs 2nd
Harris vs Kravtsov

Imo that's asking way too much. And I'm a Habs fan. I don't think we agree on the relative value of some of your comparisons.

Habs 1st unprotected, Chiarot (50%),
vs
Lafreniere

Is more even value wise. Though Rangers still don't do it if they think they're downgrading their team this year (which I suspect they would).

You say "Habs top 5 pick vs Lafreniere"

I don't see those as equal at all. There is well over half the season left for Montreal to pull out of the bottom. Would it really surprise anyone for Montreal to pull themselves up into the #3 overall range?

Even if they stay dead last, by far the most likely scenario is it is not a #1 overall pick.

And the Rangers would be trading their recent first overall pick, who is contributing now, is very young, and clearly could still put it all together. The risk for them is too high imo to trade him for an undecided pick as the main piece.

Edit: It just occurred to me that Montreal may not even be allowed to trade their 1st round pick until the offseason due to it technically still be up for grabs by AZ.

 

[elitepete]

Miller 50% retained + 2nd.

 

[Dr Awesome]

Usage has something to do with it too. Look at J Hughes. Getting more min/game and #1 PP unit with the Devils while Lafreniere is getting less min/game and 2nd PP unit that is nowhere as good as the first unit?

Correct. That’s why they’re better off letting him play in ahl. Get thos big minutes

 

[Habs Halifax]

Correct. That’s why they’re better off letting him play in ahl. Get thos big minutes

I don't see a major problem. He could play AHL to work on the offensive part but he is learning things in the trenches playing in the NHL as well. Time and space and ability to create it is a challenge for a lot of young players. Usage and ice time are also factors.

Development to me is all about obsession to improve. Some get complacent and some just put their head down and work harder.

 

[Voight]

If they are stupid, sure.

Kid has played, 55 games of COVID hockey, and isn't even halfway done in his sophomore season..

Not everyone comes into the league like McDavid and Crosby.

I mean, Lucas Raymond has just about the same career points with a third of the games played.

 

[Sweetpotato]

yeah I think better trade him and recoup partial value rather than being stuck with nothing. on pace for 24 points in his 2nd NHL leason after a pretty bad 1st season is giving me any confidence. Besides it is not like we are desperate for LW, it is not a difficult position to fill. Chytil on the other hand is someone I wouldn't trade, he plays great. Kakko I am on the fence with for now.

Sounds awfully similar to Draisaitl his rookie year being shoe horned into the line up.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I mean, Lucas Raymond has just about the same career points with a third of the games played.

And?

That means we should trade him because he's a bust?

Not sure what you're argument is. Nobody is saying he has started off the best in the draft.