Ill put these here. Sometimes, big skilled, wingers need 3 yrs to hit a stride. While I understand these are different circumstances, these are the stats for laf and huberdeau. Huby showed slow but consistent growth, til his 7th (!?) Year in the leauge where he eclipsed the ppg mark and stayed there since. Id not move laf if historical comps play out.
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Ill put these here. Sometimes, big skilled, wingers need 3 yrs to hit a stride. While I understand these are different circumstances, these are the stats for laf and huberdeau. Huby showed slow but consistent growth, til his 7th (!?) Year in the leauge where he eclipsed the ppg mark and stayed there since. Id not move laf if historical comps play out.
Context matters. Florida's leading scorer didn't even hit 40 points that year. He won the Calder the year before. These guys trajectories aren't even remotely similar at the moment.
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Yea, I think people need to chill. The problem is social media and absurd expectations have created this idea that every player that comes into the league with elite potential has to be a star by 19-20 or else they are a bust. I am not trading Lafreniere. No sir.
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So what? Lafreniere doesn't even get much PP time because the first unit has stars all over it. Plays even strength with two guys in Chytil and Gauthier that haven't finished all year, with neither being on pace for even 10 goals this season. Right, context matters. Fans that don't watch the NYR and are only observing stats have no idea what they are talking about.
I still think it is way to early to give up on this kid. You have to give him time to adjust and grow. The kid is clearly talented - as a fan of a rival fan, sure - go get rid of him. As a fan of the game, give it time and allow him to get going with other great young ranger prospects who are making it to Broadway. Give it a year or two - the rangers are going to have one of the best home grown groups of players in a long time. They just need more time.
Ah yes, more people that don't watch the Rangers complaining that Laf is under producing. I'll say it one more time for the people in the back:
LAFRENIERE
PLAYS
ON
A
VERY
GOOD
TEAM
He will not be spoon fed PP time. He will not be spoon fed top 6 time. We have better forwards than him right now because they are in their prime. He is supporting cast on this team and as such his stats are deflated.
This is a very good thing for Laf and the Rangers. His day will come and he will be a focal point of this team. Until then, don't expect him to produce at a PPG clip with 14:00 TOI and essentially no PP time.
The Rangers won the lottery and were not supposed to draft this guy. They are a much better team than those that traditionally pick first. This is the reason Lafs production is down. With that being said, has he been great? No, but he also didn't get an NHL training camp his rookie year and has had to break into the league as a 1OA under COVID ops. He's fine, the Rangers aren't trading him
Now Kakko on the other hand, I worry about a LOT
LAFRENIERE
PLAYS
ON
A
VERY
GOOD
TEAM
He will not be spoon fed PP time. He will not be spoon fed top 6 time. We have better forwards than him right now because they are in their prime. He is supporting cast on this team and as such his stats are deflated.
This is a very good thing for Laf and the Rangers. His day will come and he will be a focal point of this team. Until then, don't expect him to produce at a PPG clip with 14:00 TOI and essentially no PP time.
The Rangers won the lottery and were not supposed to draft this guy. They are a much better team than those that traditionally pick first. This is the reason Lafs production is down. With that being said, has he been great? No, but he also didn't get an NHL training camp his rookie year and has had to break into the league as a 1OA under COVID ops. He's fine, the Rangers aren't trading him
Now Kakko on the other hand, I worry about a LOT
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Kakko has looked much better than Lafreniere and isn't benefiting from an unsustainably high shooting percentage, so it's odd you're more concerned about him.
Nobody expects Lafreniere to be a PPG player, but is it too much to ask him to improve from an abysmal rookie season?
As bad as he was last year, he's actually producing at 25% lower rate this year.
And it's not like he hasn't been given chances to play in the top 6. He just keeps playing himself back to the bottom 6.
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You are 100% right on context. The current rangers are better than the Florida team that drafted huberdeau. I only used that as (mildly hyperbolic to make a point) a single comp. At the same time, the state of the hockey world is quite different today as well. Its not easy to find a rhythm with all the stop-start over the last 2+yrs. Again though, skill takes time to adapt to an NHL level (most of the time).
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why not just give it time? Or send him down? You just drafted him, why would you trade him so soon? I get it, NY is contending, and he's not playing up to his status. Give it time.
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The Ranger's aren't looking to play it safe. They're looking to win a cup. A potential home grown star player gets them closer to that vs selling low on him right now. He has all the talent we thought he did, it's still in there, it's just a matter of comfort, confidence and minutes on the ice. He'll get there in time.
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