MoneyManny
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What makes you think Laffy hasn't been working on his skating HIS ENTIRE life? He's a pro hockey player lol you guys are hilarious with your copes.
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What makes you think Laffy hasn't been working on his skating HIS ENTIRE life? He's a pro hockey player lol you guys are hilarious with your copes.
Another 2 months has passed by. From getting a good return when you first posted to getting question marks now. Keep waiting and he can be on his way to joining Yakupov.
yes, so far.
But untapped upside potential of LaF still says no at least for the next yr while we see how close, w/continually improved skating, he approaches monster potential of draft hype
Pro athletes not kickin it 111% all cylinders all times naturally often, realizing salary is tied to performance, resort to tweaks to upgrade results,
Baseball hitters now study every little detail of a swing to see if there is an unnecessary/undesired hitch. Skating is more pivotal than ever for hockey players. Also, LaF is a kid just starting to end the fully grow into his body phase (approx.). Fully plausible that pre-NHL more than sufficient skating now requires buckling down to most efficient techniques that are best for him.
Although we are trading LaF, if enuf is on the table, a deal could make sense.
While respectable, would decline this as 1:1 but would consider a package.
Give me Chych at half to help w/my immediate cap, add a little more, then also give me a good price for Lindgren and Jones and you likely have a deal.
NY then has Chych _Fox, KAM-Trouba as top 2 pair. Robertson joins Schneider. Nils plays either side, has big shot, is 7th first depth guy while other prospects emerge.
Nils L is out.
Broberg 8OA for Krav 9OA = balanced value and eliminates drama. Would actually prefer to make Drury capitulate and play/develop Krav so he learns not to pull this type of stunt again, and stuffs his ego in the future. Howev ending distraction factor for team is useful.
Balance of package is 1st + Holloway a righty shot who, if not a pivot, looks like a great bookend w/Kreider. So yes, chance to be burned if LaF reaches hype level, but I take this.
Not a demand but would request final side deal of Nemeth + 5th for Oil 4th. Gives EDM replacement big body for 3rd pair/reserve, ok $ short term, and allows NY to recover cap moving vet no longer needed due to acquisition of Broberg.
OP gets desired deal, swapping 2Fs and 2Ds both sides, NY gets adequate potential in return that brings younger and cheaper net results, esp as to follow up moves.
Kudo Shinichi
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Caufield has a higher offensive ceiling. His talent is up there with Hughes and Zegras. The only reason he wasnt a top pick at the draft was because of his size.
Lafreniere had a higher floor than Caufield coming into the nhl. However, thats not the case anymore as Caufield as shown he's at least a top 6 forward in the nhl, whereas Lafreniere hasnt shown that.
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Agree w/r assessment that Cauf is talented and undersized. Guys like Marty St. Louis were undersized but also insanely, exception to the rule level freakishly strong. Sports adage across all sports is good big man usually better than the good little man. End of the day, you may be right, we'll see. BUT
let's be aware that hype of conv wisdom evaluated him as (something to this effect, do not have iteral verbatim in front of me)
LaF is the best non generational 1OA since MacKinnon
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I think Hughes and Zegras are much more talented... Caufield is a better shooter that's about where it ends with both.
Interesting take on things considering Laf has outscored Caufield this year at even strength while playing more than 2 mins a game less and mostly on the 3rd line. Caufield gets a third of his points on the PP while Laf has 1 PP point. Pretty sure if Laf was on the Rangers first PP unit instead of Strome he would be in the same territory point wise.
I also think Hughes and Zegras are much more talented. Caufield is a nice player but i would pump the brakes a bit.
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I take Jack Hughes over Caufield and a 1st without question.
Kocur Dill
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Welp, it's unanimous...
He sucks.
Trade him to us.
/thread
Sincerely,
HFB Fans from 31 other teams.
He sucks.
Trade him to us.
/thread
Sincerely,
HFB Fans from 31 other teams.
Tetragrammaton
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Zats Muccarello
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As a Ranger fan, no he is not.
people here that think laf is a bust or the rangers trading him will save him are the collective mike milbury of this place and the ineptitude is highly entertaining/appreciated
Yes they should trade him, not necessarily because he's a bust (I don't think he is), but the fact that their core with the exception of Fox are all 28 or older.
Panarin (31), Kreider (30), Zibanejad (29), Trouba (28), Strome (29), Goodrow (29)
All of them are on long term contracts with the exception of Strome.
You need to maximize the teams chances of winning NOW.
It doesn't really matter if Laf finds his way 3-4 years from now when that core is past its prime and locked into large contracts.
Then you'll just be floating in mediocrity. Not good enough to win, not bad enough to pick high.
Panarin (31), Kreider (30), Zibanejad (29), Trouba (28), Strome (29), Goodrow (29)
All of them are on long term contracts with the exception of Strome.
You need to maximize the teams chances of winning NOW.
It doesn't really matter if Laf finds his way 3-4 years from now when that core is past its prime and locked into large contracts.
Then you'll just be floating in mediocrity. Not good enough to win, not bad enough to pick high.
true its not like barkov or huberdeau, high picks who took a couple years to break out or in hf terms - busts - made any progress under gallant.
AirGut
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well in the next 1-2 years Drury is going to have to make up his mind about either Lafreniere or Kakko and whether you want to hold onto either of them until they have absolutely no value or move one when there can still be proper interest. The problem is Canadian media talked of Laf as a franchise altering force, a lidl Crosby, a Tavare, a Stamkos, a Giroux, when anybody who's watched him has known he's a full-time playmaking complimentary winger.
He isn't bad at all he just isn't flashy and most smooth-brain fans only want flash-n-dash as they see nothing else in the game of hockey. NYR and their development team focuses on the defensive aspect of the game ABOVE all else for these guys which is why they can grow and establish really good D corps and goalie tandems throughout the years but fail to have true snipers and goal-scorers come through the ranks. Forwards on NYR never take offensive risks unless they are more experienced as NHL league veterans. Still I think he fills out as a slightly better Drouin, which for a NYR team wanting to make deep runs in the playoffs will be heavily valuable, especially since he'll be an easy cost controlled player to have in the lineup.
He isn't bad at all he just isn't flashy and most smooth-brain fans only want flash-n-dash as they see nothing else in the game of hockey. NYR and their development team focuses on the defensive aspect of the game ABOVE all else for these guys which is why they can grow and establish really good D corps and goalie tandems throughout the years but fail to have true snipers and goal-scorers come through the ranks. Forwards on NYR never take offensive risks unless they are more experienced as NHL league veterans. Still I think he fills out as a slightly better Drouin, which for a NYR team wanting to make deep runs in the playoffs will be heavily valuable, especially since he'll be an easy cost controlled player to have in the lineup.
