Post-Game Talk: Shootouts hate us. Leafs lose 3-2

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The Winter Soldier

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I'll give Bozak props for being the only player on our team that can score in a shootout, But I really don't get Carlyle's decision making for SO. Why put Kule ahead of Lupul? Everyone knows Kule only has 1 move which he had already used in the game, you think a goalie like Rask would be dumb enough to fall for the same trick twice?

These past 2 games are also a big reason why we need an upgrade on Bozak for the 1st line. I mean c'mon, 4 shots in the past 2 games combined...pathetic! Kessel hasn't been terrific, but a good center would at least be able to create some space for him. The line's problems also fall to JVR, where in the hell has he been the past 10 games, I've literally never noticed him in any of the games until someone pointed out how unnoticeable he was. People rag on Grabo, but WTF JVR, there's going invisible and then there's what JVR is doing.

I agree with most of what you posted, JVR is not driving the net, if anything it is he that is not helping Kessel right now. Kessel doesn't need a Center, he is capable of creating chances himself when he is in the mood, kind of tired reading why an elite talent needs this or that, all he needs is a winger like Lupul or JVR when his mind is motivated to create a 2nd scoring line, for some reason JVR has disappeared. When JVR is driving the net, the line is more than capable of producing. RC sees this and pasted his butt to the bench for it. Line will be fine once JVR wakes up, but Kessel could be better in Boston too, he shouldn't need a Crosby to play well there. Kessel can play well anywhere himself when he wants to.
 

AuGsY

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We should swap Grabo and Bozak for a few games, whats the worst that could happen?
 

carlyle

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Not trying to hate on Seguin or anything, but how in the hell was he named third star?? Even more puzzlng is that the stats people didn't mess up. He was 0 across the board except for the shootout so how did he get the look above Lucic who played a solid game after getting that monkey off his back or even Reimer who played really well tonight? Ridiculous.

The Seguin bandwagon is pretty popular. He probably will be a good player in the NHL but people love to bandwagon.
 

ponder

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Also, LOL at the "just 2 wins in the last 9 games, time to freak out!!!11!!1!!1!!" comments. Every team has rough stretches, and this one hasn't even been that bad. Over that stretch we have 2 regulation wins, 3 regulation losses, and 4 shootout losses. We've basically been playing .500 hockey other than sucking in the shootouts, and shootouts don't say much about a team. 8 points in 9 games isn't that bad for the worst stretch of the season, especially when 3 of those 9 games have been against the Bruins, and another 2 of those 9 against the Pens, both extremely strong teams.

We continue to have a solid shot to make the playoffs, which is HUGE for a franchise that hasn't been there in a ridiculously long time. Everything is in our hands now, of our next 15 games, 10 are against teams currently ranked 7th-11th in the east (all 1-7 points behind us, but most with 1-3 games in hand over us). If we do well in these games, the playoffs are a total lock. If we do poorly in these games, we could easily miss the playoffs. I like our chances, though.
 
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Peasy

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YKNOW ANOTHER WIN FOR CLAUDE JULIAN THAT SHOULDA BEEN A TIE, GIMME BACK MY RECORD!!!
 

Clark4Ever

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Are you kidding? Seguin is Amazing, the kid is a stud. WAY better than Kessel.

Oh please, he's a floater, and every realistic Bruins fan knows it.

In my opinion, Kessel is a better playmaker and a better sniper any day of the week.
 

Leaf4Life

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Phaneuf absolutely sucks **s. Does the guy ever move his feet?? I swear he plays harder AFTER the whistle. I can't stand watching this floating lazy bum game after game.
 

carlyle

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Phaneuf absolutely sucks **s. Does the guy ever move his feet?? I swear he plays harder AFTER the whistle. I can't stand watching this floating lazy bum game after game.

Pretty sure he played almost 29 minutes tonight :p:
 

Doshy

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Yeah, we lost, so what? It was a shootout. Come post-season we won't have to worry about those stupid things.

3/4 points is way better than 0/4 which everyone thought we'd get.

We're comfortably ahead of 9th right now. It could be worse, we could've lost in regulation like Chicago just did.
 

Pyrophorus

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Its not Reimer

The Leafs play well as a team, and have a good coach, with a great system, and they play it they win.

However; the shootout is called the skills competition. Are the Leafs
not the least talented team in the league. Other teams either have
vets, or bonafide superstars, or superstar goaltenders. We do not.

We can win as a team, individually, we're screwed.
 

zeke

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Pretty sure he played almost 29 minutes tonight :p:

yep, 29 minutes shutting down one of the best and most physical teams in the league......but because he was caught flat footed at the end of one long shift that means HE"S A FLOATER!!!
 

false bobo

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In my opinion, Kessel is a better playmaker and a better sniper any day of the week.

Sure he is. That doesn't mean Seguin can't handle himself either.

It's funny. If Seguin was our prospect, he would be God around these parts. A kid who put up nearly 70 points in his sophomore season? The hype would be unreal.
 

tracker828

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Not because we lost but, is anyone else disgusted that that is how we decide a hard fought 65 minute game? I have always hated the sideshow act that is the shootout.

Happy for 3 out of 4 points though.
I think it should be changed a win 3 points if in reg time or ot 2points for so win 1 point for making into ot
 

stakesishigh

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Phaneuf absolutely sucks **s. Does the guy ever move his feet?? I swear he plays harder AFTER the whistle. I can't stand watching this floating lazy bum game after game.
The only problem I have with Phaneuf is that he coughs up the puck a lot in our end when he has a man on him.

Most defensemen you will see take a peek at the available options as they skate to the puck, and have a good idea where they're going with the puck as soon as or before they get it.

Phaneuf hesitates and gives the puck away much too often for my liking. He needs to start figuring out where the available outlets are before he gets to the puck.

Except it's not that clear cut, he usually pins the man who took the puck, but there's another opposing player who picks it up or sends it back to their D.

Other than that, I love his game and he's a great captain. The above is the major flaw to his game that has us fans cringing too often for our tastes. The only other criticism I would have is that occasionally he loses his man in front of the net, but that is far less often, yet still costly.
 
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