OT: Shooting at Parliament

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Caeldan

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I think some people want there to be a link to a terrorist group so they will be vindicated in their hate. I personally think this is just the acts of a deranged man with a personal vendetta. Similar to the guy that shot the mounties in Moncton.

This is entirely possible.
And CBC Radio will have the address from Harper when it starts.
 

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I think some people want there to be a link to a terrorist group so they will be vindicated in their hate. I personally think this is just the acts of a deranged man with a personal vendetta. Similar to the guy that shot the mounties in Moncton.

No. Justin Bourque acted in retaliation against the RCMP for a previous incident involving the death of his friend.
 
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ReginKarlssonLehner

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I think some people want there to be a link to a terrorist group so they will be vindicated in their hate. I personally think this is just the acts of a deranged man with a personal vendetta. Similar to the guy that shot the mounties in Moncton.

Perfectly said. As a historian, that is what scares me the most... people already having strong prejudices which clouds their judgement and makes them deaf to other possibilities.
 

Caeldan

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CBC Radio One just interrupted with an alarm message that they're still on lockdown.
 

ReginKarlssonLehner

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CBC Radio One just interrupted with an alarm message that they're still on lockdown.

Is it the other shooter? Weren't there 3 shooters on 3 separate incidences? Didn't the police also mistake construction for gunshots?

Wtf is going on. This is why we gotta wait before we can tell what's going on.
 

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I really hope we don't see what happened in the US after 9/11 with citizens going after innocent people who looked muslim (eg. brown). I hope Canadians are better than that
 

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Is it the other shooter? Weren't there 3 shooters on 3 separate incidences? Didn't the police also mistake construction for gunshots?

Wtf is going on. This is why we gotta wait before we can tell what's going on.

No. One shooter in two locations. Third locale reported (Rideau) refuted by authorities.
 

Vesa Awesaka

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I think some people want there to be a link to a terrorist group so they will be vindicated in their hate. I personally think this is just the acts of a deranged man with a personal vendetta. Similar to the guy that shot the mounties in Moncton.

The man was a convert. Its not as if people just convert on a whim. Whether he used his religion as part of his motivation in debatable but i think it is probable in this case. I dont believe terror organizations were claiming that the moncton shooter acted on there commands. Saying that i doubt he as much if any association with any terror organizations. Lots of terror group will claim suicide bombers act on there behalf just to raise their status.
 

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I really hope we don't see what happened in the US after 9/11 with citizens going after innocent people who looked muslim (eg. brown). I hope Canadians are better than that

There will be some idiots. Keep in mind, this is a white guy who shot Crp. Cirilo. If anyone is targeting someone by race than we should act accordingly and charge them with hate crimes.
 

Qward

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Is it the other shooter? Weren't there 3 shooters on 3 separate incidences? Didn't the police also mistake construction for gunshots?

Wtf is going on. This is why we gotta wait before we can tell what's going on.

This is the downfall of twitter. There could be 1 dead shooter, there could be 2 or more out there. Information is not conclusive at this time.
 

Caeldan

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This is the downfall of twitter. There could be 1 dead shooter, there could be 2 or more out there. Information is not conclusive at this time.

The only thing I hear on CBC Radio still being reported regularly, is that there are still reports of a second person exiting a vehicle and moving away from Parliament Hill this morning.

And that's the part that's never been fully confirmed/denied.
 

dumbdick

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The 2nd suspect part doesn't make that much sense. What did he do? Just run away?
 

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I know it's been said already, but they're singing "O Canada" in Pittsburgh.
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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The alleged shooting at Rideau never took place by all accounts from authorities. There was only one shooter involved today. He shot Cirilo at the war memorial then drove his car a short distance up Wellington and parked outside East block, walked up to the Centre Block and opened fire once inside where he was killed by Srgt at arms Vickers and his staff.

There's no indication of any other shooters, but police and RCMP are searching much of the downtown core and clearing them from lock down. It's also important to note that most of Parliament and the War Memorial are a crime scene right now.

The security level has been raised on the Hill over the past few days so it seems they had perhaps expected something and now are taking lots of precautions. Who knows what kind of threats they've received so anything given the current situation need to be taken very seriously.
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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Harper's address has me more uneasy than the actually events of today tbh. I hope he doesn't use this opportunity to further expand the powers of government and the PMO. We don't need our own version of the Patriot Act in Canada.
 

Nac Mac Feegle

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Harper's address has me more uneasy than the actually events of today tbh. I hope he doesn't use this opportunity to further expand the powers of government and the PMO. We don't need our own version of the Patriot Act in Canada.

He'd have zero chance at re-election if he did that.
 
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