Sheldon Keefe Discussion Thread

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Watching the final season of Ted Lasso and wonder if the WJC Latvia coach from a few years back when they finished in the top 4 is available for coaching. He is Ted Lasso in real life, still remembered when asked what he expects of his players in the semi final, he said he wishes they are horny enough or need to be horny or something like that.
 
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Pittsburgh's new president. Dubas will use Artificial Intelligence as his AGM.
LOL

Why not? LOL, he's been using EA Sports NHL Hockey to construct his soft as butter Leaf rosters...AI would be a big step for him...probably on ChatGPT figuring out how to help Crosby and Malkin rediscover their youth...:sarcasm:
 
The Leafs win a single playoffs round, for the first time in almost 20 years, only to get blown away the very next series.

Yet, for some reason, Keefe thinks getting spanked 4-1 by a team that barely squeaked into the playoffs was "incredible progress", that he "liked" the effort.

Good Lord.

Praising these results is like bragging about stepping in shit and wiping it off with more shit.

No wonder the team lacks accountability. Keefe can't even hold himself accountable. Compare that to what Cassidy has said over the years.

One of these guys has been to the Stanley Cup finals twice.

I'm not sure what the expectation for Keefe is now that he's actually won a round. Is he expected to make the conference finals or be fired? I mean, if you’re saying someone needs to win a certain number of rounds in the playoffs just to keep their job, you’ve already lost your trust in them.

They doubled down on stupid and ran it all back.

The results were, to surprise of nobody, the same. Beaten by a team that probably shouldn't have even been in the playoffs. That's the very definition of a fireable offense.

Too little, too late.

I'm sorry, but picking up a few bags of trash doesn't make up for the mountain of shit you piled up in the first place.
 
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Pittsburgh's new president. Dubas will use Artificial Intelligence as his AGM.
LOL
Maybe Keefe replaced by AI?

AI: That was offside!

Official: You had 11 players on the ice.

AI: 11 is 6 in base 5.

Official: Stop it! You're not making sense.

AI: Stop Making Sense was a film and album by the musical group Talking Heads. It's available to stream on Spotify. You're killing us here with these terrible calls.
 
Maybe Keefe replaced by AI?

AI: That was offside!

Official: You had 11 players on the ice.

AI: 11 is 6 in base 5.

Official: Stop it! You're not making sense.

AI: Stop Making Sense was a film and album by the musical group Talking Heads. It's available to stream on Spotify. You're killing us here with these terrible calls.
Stop, stop you are literally making me laugh out loud. I got injured by one of my wife’s horses last week and laughing hurts the most. Lol
 
According to Elliotte Friedman:

• the Toronto Maple Leafs and Sheldon Keefe might potentially talk about an extension

• there were some initial meetings between the Toronto Maple Leafs and Sheldon Keefe

• the two sides might investigate something like that




Stanley Cup Media Day - 32 Thoughts: The Podcast


Matthews likes Keefe, Shanny seems to like Keefe, Treliving likely will prioritize getting a Matthews extension done over a coaching change.

At this point I can see Keefe getting a 1-2 year extension as an (almost) safe bet at this point
 
but....why?
So the core and Keefe back ?
Wonderful
You don't want a lame duck coach do you ?? Tree needs to wake up and smell the coffee and replace Keefe asap. Why would anybody extend a coach that has been outcoached in 4 straight playoffs and run back the same loser core?

Gallant may have his warts and may be a short term solution but he might be the one to get the best out of this team the next couple of years before they tune him out.

Matthews likes Keefe, Shanny seems to like Keefe, Treliving likely will prioritize getting a Matthews extension done over a coaching change.

At this point I can see Keefe getting a 1-2 year extension as an (almost) safe bet at this point
Yup let's run t back again but without the architect. Sounds like a winning recipe.
 
Fire Keefe, hire coach Q and when 1 out of 32 teams wins the cup next year (not us) fire Treliving, fire coach Q...
 
Prophecy is much easier after the fact.

But if everyone said it was a bad idea at the time, it's not exactly "after the fact" now is it?

It's a disgrace the flagship franchise of the NHL has a head coach so far in over his head. Four years of coach Keefe later and this team is not any better than before he got hired. Dubas could have appointed Mr. Potato Head to coach the team.

The results would still have been the same.

A couple of Keefe's former assistants, along with the goalie coach that got fired last summer because he was responsible for all the losing over the years, took a team of NHL rejects further in two years than Keefe ever has the Leafs.

It's unbelievable Keefe still has a job. Treliving needs to fire this loser. It was clear when they hired him he was the wrong choice.

Even more-so now.

The rearview mirror is always clearer than the crystal ball. But it's only hindsight if you didn't see it coming. Once again Keefe did exactly what everyone predicted these playoffs .

With very predictable results.
 
I still to this day do not understand Nylander getting less PP time than O'Reilly during the playoffs. It made zero sense to me. Nylander has had more PP goals in the past 2 seasons than O'Reilly has had in his past 5 seasons. Play O'Reilly more at even strength for goodness sake if you like what he brought. Power plays are just that: overloading with goal scoring power. There was already an inside man (Tavares) and plenty of playmakers. I'm not even sure this burned the team considering the emphatic oompth Florida laid on the team in the 2nd round but it felt like a missed detail among other missed detail.
 
I still to this day do not understand Nylander getting less PP time than O'Reilly during the playoffs. It made zero sense to me. Nylander has had more PP goals in the past 2 seasons than O'Reilly has had in his past 5 seasons. Play O'Reilly more at even strength for goodness sake if you like what he brought. Power plays are just that: overloading with goal scoring power. There was already an inside man (Tavares) and plenty of playmakers. I'm not even sure this burned the team considering the emphatic oompth Florida laid on the team in the 2nd round but it felt like a missed detail among other missed detail.

While I do agree that Nylander should be on the first Pp unit, it’s not just about putting the most skill on the ice. You put out the players who are best able to, and most willing to, execute the game plan.
 
Maybe he’s good at some things, but he’s a terrible motivator. Listening to swear laden schtick in “All For Nothing”, that act wears thin, to me there’s no question they’ve largely tuned him out, as evidenced by how they react big moments. For me it was heading into Game 4 against TB last year, his self satisfied, it’s all gravy to win another on the road mentality, that just showed how out of his depth he was…these we proud champions, you stomp on their throat and never let them get back up. The stage always seems to big for this guy, can’t wait for a locked icon on this thread.
 
The Leafs win a single playoffs round, for the first time in almost 20 years, only to get blown away the very next series.

Yet, for some reason, Keefe thinks getting spanked 4-1 by a team that barely squeaked into the playoffs was "incredible progress", that he "liked" the effort.

Good Lord.

Praising these results is like bragging about stepping in shit and wiping it off with more shit.

No wonder the team lacks accountability. Keefe can't even hold himself accountable. Compare that to what Cassidy has said over the years.

One of these guys has been to the Stanley Cup finals twice.

I'm not sure what the expectation for Keefe is now that he's actually won a round. Is he expected to make the conference finals or be fired? I mean, if you’re saying someone needs to win a certain number of rounds in the playoffs just to keep their job, you’ve already lost your trust in them.

They doubled down on stupid and ran it all back.

The results were, to surprise of nobody, the same. Beaten by a team that probably shouldn't have even been in the playoffs. That's the very definition of a fireable offense.

Too little, too late.

I'm sorry, but picking up a few bags of trash doesn't make up for the mountain of shit you piled up in the first place.
It starts at the top, Shanahan was going to bring Dubas back after 5 years of his own failings, no real surprise Keefe could be back, Shanahan has gone soft himself
 
but....why?
So the core and Keefe back ?
Wonderful
Remember, nothing was going to change if Dubas hadn’t done whatever he did.
It would have been same GM, core and probably coach.
Now everyone (almost) is excited because it’s not the same (but it is) thing. So far.
I will give Treliving the chance to completely surprise us.
But the Leafs only changed a complete run it back by accident.
 
I still to this day do not understand Nylander getting less PP time than O'Reilly during the playoffs. It made zero sense to me. Nylander has had more PP goals in the past 2 seasons than O'Reilly has had in his past 5 seasons. Play O'Reilly more at even strength for goodness sake if you like what he brought. Power plays are just that: overloading with goal scoring power. There was already an inside man (Tavares) and plenty of playmakers. I'm not even sure this burned the team considering the emphatic oompth Florida laid on the team in the 2nd round but it felt like a missed detail among other missed detail.
The icing on the cake was when O'rielly was playing the perimeter on PP1
 

"One Leafs staffer you will likely not see surface in Pittsburgh is head coach Sheldon Keefe. Not only has Keefe received an endorsement from Shanahan, but the Fenway Sports Group has also made clear that their coach, Mike Sullivan, is central to their plans and he has a long-term contract.

Keefe has one year remaining on what’s believed to be a $2 million a season contract, which may be a factor for MLSE given they have developed an aversion to paying people not to work for them. (Mike Babcock, who is expected to resurface in Columbus as head coach, has been receiving roughly $6 million a season for nearly four years on a pact that finally expires in a few weeks.)

Treliving and Keefe are expected to meet in the coming weeks. The Leafs will have two options here. Either extend Keefe by a year or two and give him a vote of confidence, avoiding a lame-duck situation.

Or they could do something similar to what Shanahan did when he inherited Randy Carlyle as coach in 2014; add a new assistant coach, handpicked by management, to replace Spencer Carbery and assist a bench boss in the final year of a deal.
In that scenario, any bumps in the road and Keefe would be vulnerable in midseason, with either the new assistant or an outside candidate coming in to take over.


That’s a move that would give Treliving some in-season flexibility, while maintaining stability for the players and staff during what’s going to be a tumultuous time. Flames associate coach Kirk Muller is one rumored candidate for that kind of “lurker” role, although he’s still under contract in Calgary and it’s unclear given their ongoing head coach search if he’ll be retained."
 
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"One Leafs staffer you will likely not see surface in Pittsburgh is head coach Sheldon Keefe. Not only has Keefe received an endorsement from Shanahan, but the Fenway Sports Group has also made clear that their coach, Mike Sullivan, is central to their plans and he has a long-term contract.

Keefe has one year remaining on what’s believed to be a $2 million a season contract, which may be a factor for MLSE given they have developed an aversion to paying people not to work for them. (Mike Babcock, who is expected to resurface in Columbus as head coach, has been receiving roughly $6 million a season for nearly four years on a pact that finally expires in a few weeks.)

Treliving and Keefe are expected to meet in the coming weeks. The Leafs will have two options here. Either extend Keefe by a year or two and give him a vote of confidence, avoiding a lame-duck situation.

Or they could do something similar to what Shanahan did when he inherited Randy Carlyle as coach in 2014; add a new assistant coach, handpicked by management, to replace Spencer Carbery and assist a bench boss in the final year of a deal.
In that scenario, any bumps in the road and Keefe would be vulnerable in midseason, with either the new assistant or an outside candidate coming in to take over.


That’s a move that would give Treliving some in-season flexibility, while maintaining stability for the players and staff during what’s going to be a tumultuous time. Flames associate coach Kirk Muller is one rumored candidate for that kind of “lurker” role, although he’s still under contract in Calgary and it’s unclear given their ongoing head coach search if he’ll be retained."
Meet in the “coming weeks”, give me a break, I bet they’ve talked already. Proof Mirtle lost his source.
 

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