Sharks Roster Discussion Part V

[FeedingFrenzy]

That is my exact thought as well. Try to get Galchenyuk as he will be cheaper. He may or may not pan out as a #1C but between Hertl, Galchenyuk and Couture we will be set at that position. Hell, in an ideal scenario get Galchenyuk without giving up Hertl would mean we could still deal Hertl for a deal around Duchene (if we chose to do so).

Preferably, I would love if we could have Couture, Hertl, Galchenyuk down the middle. If Thornton comes back, put Galchenyuk on his wing (where he does better anyway) till he retires. Or put him on Couture's wing. Either way .. we have the C's to use Galchenyuk as a winger right away.

Galchenyuk is not going to want to play 3C

 

[OffSydes]

Looks like the players will be wearing a lighter teal

 

[hockeyball]

The Penguins can't have worse injury luck, can they? And Washington might lose Schmidt and at least one of Oshie and Shattenkirk. And they still ice Brooks Orpik. I'd say that the Penguins are the favorite again out of the East.

I can't respond to that post, so I'll respond to this one instead.

If you aim for 99%, don't expect 100% results.

Meaning being, if you build your team based on the premise that next years Stanley Cup winner will be worse than this years (or last years) Penguins, your odds are pretty terrible. If the Penguins do not threepeat, it's because some other team was better than them, and now you have to be better than that team.

If you can't build a team that will beat this years Penguins, don't bother wasting assets.

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

I can't respond to that post, so I'll respond to this one instead.

If you aim for 99%, don't expect 100% results.

Meaning being, if you build your team based on the premise that next years Stanley Cup winner will be worse than this years (or last years) Penguins, your odds are pretty terrible. If the Penguins do not threepeat, it's because some other team was better than them, and now you have to be better than that team.

If you can't build a team that will beat this years Penguins, don't bother wasting assets.

This year's Penguins (the playoff version without Letang) were not very good. This year's Sharks likely beat them 6 times out of 10 in a seven-game series. Even with Letang healthy their bottom six will be worse next year.

 

[Nighthock]

Looks like the players will be wearing a lighter teal

No bottom stripes again... Yep, I'm pissed.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Galchenyuk is not going to want to play 3C

And he won't. I see him playing wing in the top-6 or being the #2C to begin with. More likely top-6 winger.

 

[Juxtaposer]

If I don't wake up to trades tomorrow morning, I'll be very sad.

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

If I don't wake up to trades tomorrow morning, I'll be very sad.

Trade freeze doesn't end until Thursday morning I think.

 

[Barrie22]

Trade freeze doesn't end until Thursday morning I think.

I think she means with vegas lol.

 

[Boy Hedican]

Looks like the players will be wearing a lighter teal

Ya this pic shows absolutely no indication of that. And even if it did, you can never really trust a photo.

 

[Gecklund]

If I don't wake up to trades tomorrow morning, I'll be very sad.

There won't be any trades until the actual picking. They want as many people to tune into their awards show as possible

 

[Friday]

We wont know about trades until 5pm (west coast), at least 6 trades have been made between LV and other teams. Going to be a sensory overload kinda afternoon haha

 

[FeedingFrenzy]

Any chance we could get Dumba via Vegas? Cost?
Slotted with Pickles?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Any chance we could get Dumba via Vegas? Cost?
Slotted with Pickles?

I'm sure there's a chance. The cost of trading within the division is generally enormous to the point that it is often prohibitive. I don't know if Dumba is ready to be slotted with Pickles but I'd take him over Braun in that spot right now.

I'm not expecting the Sharks to really do much in way of dealing with Vegas other than pieces that aren't all that valuable on their own.

 

[Barrie22]

I'm sure there's a chance. The cost of trading within the division is generally enormous to the point that it is often prohibitive. I don't know if Dumba is ready to be slotted with Pickles but I'd take him over Braun in that spot right now.

I'm not expecting the Sharks to really do much in way of dealing with Vegas other than pieces that aren't all that valuable on their own.

If you listen to duck fans, they make it sound like vegas is going to be paying the ducks to not select manson and vatanen.

 

[Juxtaposer]

There won't be any trades until the actual picking. They want as many people to tune into their awards show as possible

Boooooooooo.

If you listen to duck fans, they make it sound like vegas is going to be paying the ducks to not select manson and vatanen.

Okay but honestly. Ducks fans are like, "why would we pay assets worth more than Manson to protect Manson??" Um maybe because of you don't, Vegas will just take Manson? Just a thought?

 

[Barrie22]

Boooooooooo.



Okay but honestly. Ducks fans are like, "why would we pay assets worth more than Manson to protect Manson??" Um maybe because of you don't, Vegas will just take Manson? Just a thought?

Yeah that draft reveal page on the trade forum got silly after the back and forth between fans about why vegas should be nice to anaheim.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

If you listen to duck fans, they make it sound like vegas is going to be paying the ducks to not select manson and vatanen.

Fans will be fans but when I look at Anaheim's situation, I would not care at all about losing one of Vatanen or Manson when I see Montour coming up the pike. I mean, if it really came to that, I would've bought out Bieksa at his full cap hit over losing either of them for nothing and trade the other one but the loss of one of them on their own isn't all that concerning for me with the talent they have in their system.

But if you want to rag on the Duck fans, we should lump Kings fans in there too selling the idea that it'd be a good idea for Vegas to take Dustin Brown or Marian Gaborik off their team.

 

[Barrie22]

Fans will be fans but when I look at Anaheim's situation, I would not care at all about losing one of Vatanen or Manson when I see Montour coming up the pike. I mean, if it really came to that, I would've bought out Bieksa at his full cap hit over losing either of them for nothing and trade the other one but the loss of one of them on their own isn't all that concerning for me with the talent they have in their system.

But if you want to rag on the Duck fans, we should lump Kings fans in there too selling the idea that it'd be a good idea for Vegas to take Dustin Brown or Marian Gaborik off their team.

Oh i luckily missed that kings gem then.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Oh i luckily missed that kings gem then.

It may not be in that thread specifically but it has been brought up numerous times this off-season as if Vegas is there to do favors to all the teams that have bad contracts. lol

 

[Juxtaposer]

Yeah that draft reveal page on the trade forum got silly after the back and forth between fans about why vegas should be nice to anaheim.

It's so funny after Ducks fans were ADAMANT that Bieksa would waive or be bought out and Vatanen would be traded.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Assuming that Ward is NOT chosed by Vegas, would it be a good idea for us to buy him out to create more cap space? Or we can trade him with retention. At 50% Vegas (or most teams) would be very likely to take him off our hands.

Trying to make sure we have enough space for Kovalchuk if we decide to go for it again.

 

[Sideshow Raheem]

Assuming that Ward is NOT chosed by Vegas, would it be a good idea for us to buy him out to create more cap space? Or we can trade him with retention. At 50% Vegas (or most teams) would be very likely to take him off our hands.

Trying to make sure we have enough space for Kovalchuk if we decide to go for it again.

Even if Schlemko (the guy with the lowest cap hit) is Vegas' pick, we'll have over $17mil to sign Thornton, Marleau, Kovalchuk and Tierney (who could potentially be traded to NJ for Kovalchuk's rights). So even if two of them come in at $6mil and the other at $5mil, we'll have enough space. And those are probably high estimates. If Dillon gets taken instead, there's enough to give all three $6mil.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Even if Schlemko (the guy with the lowest cap hit) is Vegas' pick, we'll have over $17mil to sign Thornton, Marleau, Kovalchuk and Tierney (who could potentially be traded to NJ for Kovalchuk's rights). So even if two of them come in at $6mil and the other at $5mil, we'll have enough space. And those are probably high estimates. If Dillon gets taken instead, there's enough to give all three $6mil.

Yah. I know it was going to be close if Schlemko got taken. But I also want to get rid of Ward is because he is pretty much wasted cap space right now. He is still a good player but he is way too slow on an already slow team. I want him gone and hopefully give one of the kids a real chance in the bottom-6. Even at 50% retention, it gives us some cushion and opens up a spot for a kid.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yah. I know it was going to be close if Schlemko got taken. But I also want to get rid of Ward is because he is pretty much wasted cap space right now. He is still a good player but he is way too slow on an already slow team. I want him gone and hopefully give one of the kids a real chance in the bottom-6. Even at 50% retention, it gives us some cushion and opens up a spot for a kid.

Regardless of who is taken, they need to move at least one of Ward or Boedker so that kids like Meier and Labanc are afforded better lineup opportunities moving forward. Hell, if they can move both of them it's even better especially if we're discussing bringing in Kovalchuk.