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Prospect Info: Shane Wright (Round 1, Pick #4, 2022 draft)

Price is Wright said:
It's not Wright vs Slafkovsky in Montreal. It's Wright vs Dach. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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The Marquis said:
Care to explain why?
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I don't know if this is what the poster had in mind but there is a theory in Habs land that they would have taken Wright because he was a center, but then the opportunity to acquire Dach popped up.

Maybe it influenced a close decision but I wouldn't think it is wise to factor in Dach to any degree, he hasn't been good and we don't even know if he'll stick at center. You'd think the 1st OA pick would be a higher order decision and Dach would go in a separate reclamation project category. But then again they did just bet big and give Dach a big multi year deal. Maybe the Habs really think he is an equivalent building block.
 
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gstommylee said:
After montreal drafted slaf they traded for Dach whos a center so the idea is drafting wright vs drafting slaf and trading for Dach
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Since Montreal couldn't have both Slafkovski and Wright, that take is a little misleading.

It should probably be viewed as

Slafkovski and Dach
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Romanov, Wright, a 3rd and a 4th.

Will be interesting to see how all of these assets pan out and revisit these trades in 5 or 6 years.
 
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Mrb1p said:
Are the Krackeen not holding a rookie camp ?
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Probably still too early. Having only 18 draft picks total in their franchise history, they are in a bit of a different place than most NHL clubs, and several of those picks are in Europe and likely wouldn't be available.

I have a feeling all of the available prospects will be invited to camp. ;)
 
Fistfullofbeer said:
We are. Our rookie camp is from Sept 19 - 20. Our training camp starts on the 22nd.
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With most other teams knee deep in intra-league tournaments and week-long rookie camps to determine which prospects continue on to full camp right now, should we maybe call Seattle's two day camp where likely everyone attending goes on to training camp "rookie orientation"? or can we still call it a camp?
 
Irie said:
With most other teams knee deep in intra-league tournaments and week-long rookie camps to determine which prospects continue on to full camp right now, should we maybe call Seattle's two day camp where likely everyone attending goes on to training camp "rookie orientation"? or can we still call it a camp?
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It's just semantics for me. Rookie camp or rookie orientation is more or less the same to me. You are basically introducing the kids to NHL for the first 2 days before moving on to regular training camp. Pretty sure the training part will still happen at the rookie camp.
 
Fistfullofbeer said:
It's just semantics for me. Rookie camp or rookie orientation is more or less the same to me. You are basically introducing the kids to NHL for the first 2 days before moving on to regular training camp. Pretty sure the training part will still happen at the rookie camp.
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I bet next year they have a full rookie camp, once they have three years of draft picks in the system.

Hopefully they participate in a rookie tournament too, because seeing the team's prospects playing games against other teams prospects can be pretty eye-opening (not to mention it is super entertaining. )
 
Irie said:
I bet next year they have a full rookie camp, once they have three years of draft picks in the system.

Hopefully they participate in a rookie tournament too, because seeing the team's prospects playing games against other teams prospects can be pretty eye-opening (not to mention it is super entertaining. )
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Yeah. I see that happening next season as well. We have 11 picks in the 2023 draft. Plus, I doubt we are buyers at this TDL. If anything, we stock up on more picks. Should have a minimum of 10 more prospects next season for rookie camp.
 
Fistfullofbeer said:
We did not have a rookie tourney this pre-season. Wright was at development camp right after the draft and was probably the 2nd best player on the ice after Beniers.

Our rookie camp actually starts today.
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I was looking at our development roster and realizing how difficult it would be for the Kraken to put together a full squad of prospects for a tournament. More than enough forwards to play, One goalie... but so lacking in D that I don't think they could ice a team. I assume the plan is probably to be working toward something of that nature next fall, but for now, there just aren't enough defense prospects.
 
The Marquis said:
I was looking at our development roster and realizing how difficult it would be for the Kraken to put together a full squad of prospects for a tournament. More than enough forwards to play, One goalie... but so lacking in D that I don't think they could ice a team. I assume the plan is probably to be working toward something of that nature next fall, but for now, there just aren't enough defense prospects.
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FWIW a lot of clubs are missing D prospects or F prospects or G prospects. You don't draft enough or guys are in college or Europe and can't come. You just fill out the prospect team with invites. I think most years my Jackets are around half invites.
 
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Price is Wright said:
It's not Wright vs Slafkovsky in Montreal. It's Wright vs Dach. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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gstommylee said:
After montreal drafted slaf they traded for Dach whos a center so the idea is drafting wright vs drafting slaf and trading for Dach
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You are correct in the explanation, however I disagree with the initial point.

It is still Slaf vs Wright. Let's imagine for a moment that Slaf is a bust but Wright is great.... Even if Dach would turn out fantastic, we would have lost Romanov for him, while we could have had Wright for free and Slaf was the wrong pick. If both Slaf and Wright are great, and Dach is not developping, then Dach becomes a bad trade for Romanov. If both Slaf and Dach are great but Wright is a bust, well really, who cares about Dach, people would still say Slaf was the right pick.

Anyway, bottom line is, it is Slaf vs Wright :)
 
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Another Habs fan coming in peace. Here's what I think about the Slaf-Wright:

- Habs management said a couple of times that they want the player that will become the "best" in a couple of year, so they wanted raw talent/potential VS someone closer to being an NHLer.

- 70% of the fans wanted Wright. A lot were angry with the pick at the time it was made BUT when they saw 2 teams passing on him, it kinda looked like Wright wasn't seen as an obvious #1 overall anymore (since 3 teams picked other guys). At that moment, Habs fans probably felt relieved with the choice and started to accept it a bit more.

- The fact that 3 teams decided to go with another player + the death stare to the Habs management + him liking a couple of social media post about it later (I don't know if it was fake or not, didn't really check into it afterward) came across as a "maybe Habs management saw something they didn't like"?

At the end of the day, I personally think that this incident will play great for both players: Slaf go to a young team who wants to put every effort in his development and aren't scared to take their time with him, so they will probably chose the right spot for him this year AND Wright just got a fire lit under him, and wants to prove 3 teams that they made a big mistake + he's going to a team where the door is wide open for him to take the ball and run with it.

TLDR: Slafkovsky is a big project for the Habs. Any Habs fan thinking he's already ahead of Wright is lying to himself since Habs management said many times that they took him for his tool and to work with him so he become the best player of the draft.
 
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I'm always bewildered why Habs fans are trying to explain to us why they didn't take Wright or why we should care about that.

We never had the #1 pick, nor did we play any part in who would be taken at that position.
We picked at #4, waited who was available and took Wright(with a big smile) after he fell to that position.

The Habs took the guy they though might have the highest potential and he could very well be the best player in this draft, as could a couple of others as well.

Looking at the information that came out after the draft we also never had a shot at drafting Slafkovsky given that he wouldn't have gotten past #2, if not taken by Montreal.

So overall, for me, it's a non issue cause we didn't have anything to do with that decision and talking about that all the time comes off as trying to convince yourselves as to why you took Slafkovxky at #1, which is something I'm not sure there's any need for given his talent.

Anyways, I'm curious to see how Wright does during camp and if he's able to secure a spot on the team or if he'll be send to the OHL for another year.
 
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Paddyjack said:
Anyway, bottom line is, it is Slaf vs Wright :)
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If it's really Slaf vs Wright...I imagine what Cooley vs Wright is....Habs thought we needed to go bigger with the team. Whether there are right or wrong, that's what it is. While Arizona thought Cooley was a better C than Wright. Only reason why it's Slaf vs Wright it's because of the omnipresence of Habs fanbase...(I know..I'M here..lol). But the debate should be much more Arizona vs Seattle.
 
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Whitesnake said:
If it's really Slaf vs Wright...I imagine what Cooley vs Wright is....Habs thought we needed to go bigger with the team. Whether there are right or wrong, that's what it is. While Arizona thought Cooley was a better C than Wright. Only reason why it's Slaf vs Wright it's because of the omnipresence of Habs fanbase...(I know..I'M here..lol). But the debate should be much more Arizona vs Seattle.
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Cooley can play winger too. Cooley was always slotted to go 3rd overall. its just 1OA 2OA and 4OA were different.
 
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