Proposal: Shane Pinto for Kevin Fiala

[McJedi]

Would you like to see a list of highly successful list of college players that never even sniffed the NHL? It's a long one

Tyson Jost. Lol

I don't think Fiala will be worth his next contract. Seems like the kind of player that falls off FAST. Ottawa would be smarter to go after Scheifele, at least he shows up in the playoffs.

I also don't think any team should help Minnesoda with their impending cap situation, it would be dumb to over pay for a player you know they'll ave to get rid of anyway

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Drysdale above Byram. That’s gotta be a joke.

 

[Sota Popinski]

I don't think Fiala will be worth his next contract. Seems like the kind of player that falls off FAST. Ottawa would be smarter to go after Scheifele, at least he shows up in the playoffs.

I also don't think any team should help Minnesoda with their impending cap situation, it would be dumb to over pay for a player you know they'll ave to get rid of anyway

The problem with that dopey way of thinking is that most teams like having good hockey players on their team. Even moreso if they are young. Teams that are trying to win try to get as many of them on their team as they can. They don't view it as helping another team with their cap situation. They look at it as improving their own.

Then there are teams like the Sens and Coyotes...

 

[KevinRedkey]

I like pinto, but he missed most of this year and will be 22 next season without much NHL experience. Would much prefer 7OA

As a Sens fan, I'd rather trade 7th than Pinto.

 

[LeProspector]

The problem with that dopey way of thinking is that most teams like having good hockey players on their team. Even moreso if they are young. Teams that are trying to win try to get as many of them on their team as they can. They don't view it as helping another team with their cap situation. They look at it as improving their own.

Then there are teams like the Sens and Coyotes...

At least when Ottawa makes the playoffs - there is a chance they win more than one round.
Can't say the same for the city of Minnesoda!

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

At least when Ottawa makes the playoffs - there is a chance they win more than one round.
Can't say the same for the city of Minnesoda!

Definitely can't.

 

[Big Empty]

Shane Pinto

 

[SpezDispenser]

7th ov and a prospect not named pinto, greig or Sanderson. Maybe a little something on top, but I think that's in the ballpark.

 

[57special]

one of the best 2-way centre prospects in hockey

7th ov and a prospect not named pinto, greig or Sanderson. Maybe a little something on top, but I think that's in the ballpark.

yup. Fair offer.

 

[LeProspector]

yup. Fair offer.

Fiala isn't worth the 7th overall pick Try a 1st round pick swap instead.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Fiala isn't worth the 7th overall pick Try a 1st round pick swap instead.

What caliber of player are you hoping Ottawa gets at the 7th overall pick?

 

[LeProspector]

What caliber of player are you hoping Ottawa gets at the 7th overall pick?

David Jiricek or Simon Nemec.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

David Jiricek or Simon Nemec.

And what's a reasonable expectation for what those players are going to become?

 

[Digitalbooya]

Why is this thread live lol

 

[LeProspector]

And what's a reasonable expectation for what those players are going to become?

At minimum Top-4 defenders. But they have ceilings of top pairing defenders to play next to Sanderson and Chabot for the next 10 years.
Only way I entertain trading that pick is if these guys are off the board. And in Fiala's case it would have to be a first round pick swap

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

7th ov and a prospect not named pinto, greig or Sanderson. Maybe a little something on top, but I think that's in the ballpark.

Kind of would rather let Ottawa keep their prospects and go with additional picks. Let Brackett do his thing.

 

[Digitalbooya]

7th ov and a prospect not named pinto, greig or Sanderson. Maybe a little something on top, but I think that's in the ballpark.

I think this is pretty agreeable for 90% of both fanbases.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

At minimum Top-4 defenders. But they have ceilings of top pairing defenders to play next to Sanderson and Chabot for the next 10 years.
Only way I entertain trading that pick is if these guys are off the board. And in Fiala's case it would have to be a first round pick swap

It's just funny to me that a guy that a team deemed worthy of taking with the 11th overall pick, that has (at the very least) met expectations for that pick (and more likely has exceeded them), and is currently right in the middle of his prime, needs another 1st rounder with him to get the 7th overall pick.

I like mystery boxes as much as anybody else, but the math seems skewed on this one.

 

[BondraTime]

David Jiricek or Simon Nemec.

Neither is very realistic though

Fiala extended is worth much more than you’re offering. Minnesota isn’t adding Fiala to their pick to move up 15 spots, that’s absurd.

 

[Eggtimer]

I don’t do this as a Sens fan prospective though.
Pinto has shown well in the NHL and he is too good of a prospect to give up for a player like Fiala.

Ok then. Keep your magic bean ( magic bean with one shoulder ) and Wild keep their 85 point young proven stud forward, I’m sure they will be devastated the deal wouldn’t go through .

 

[LeProspector]

It's just funny to me that a guy that a team deemed worthy of taking with the 11th overall pick, that has (at the very least) met expectations for that pick (and more likely has exceeded them), and is currently right in the middle of his prime, needs another 1st rounder with him to get the 7th overall pick.

I like mystery boxes as much as anybody else, but the math seems skewed on this one.

You're not taking contracts into account here. Fiala is due for a fat payday, and rightfully so. Is it worth giving Fiala a long term big money deal when at some point Ottawa has to pay their young studs?

With the draft pick you get a cost controlled young player for at least 5 season's, which is invauable for a team like Ottawa

Ok then. Keep your magic bean ( magic bean with one shoulder ) and Wild keep their 85 point young proven stud forward, I’m sure they will be devastated the deal wouldn’t go through .

Wild can't afford to keep their 85 point proven stud forward. It's the Suter and Parise tax

 

[Digitalbooya]

Kind of would rather let Ottawa keep their prospects and go with additional picks. Let Brackett do his thing.

I think the ideal trade for Fiala would be something like Holtz+2nd. Plug Holtz across from Boldy. If you are feeling truly spicy, put Rossi between both of them.

Don't know if they would be a good line or not.

You're not taking contracts into account here. Fiala is due for a fat payday, and rightfully so. Is it worth giving Fiala a long term big money deal when at some point Ottawa has to pay their young studs?

With the draft pick you get a cost controlled young player for at least 5 season's.


Wild can't afford to keep their 85 point proven stud forward. You can thank Suter and Parise for this.

You're not taking into account that you are getting a point per game player right now. That cost controlled asset could take three years to break into the NHL and very likely wouldn't be as good as Fiala.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

You're not taking contracts into account here. Fiala is due for a fat payday, and rightfully so. Is it worth giving Fiala a long term big money deal when at some point Ottawa has to pay their young studs?

With the draft pick you get a cost controlled young player for at least 5 season's, which is invauable for a team like Ottawa


Wild can't afford to keep their 85 point proven stud forward. It's the Suter and Parise tax

Ok, but you're talking about 1, maybe 2, years of benefit. Yes, the player is cheaper in years 1-3, but it's also highly likely that the cheaper player also isn't as good/productive.

So yes, there is additional money involved, but that money is still buying something that isn't otherwise there.

 

[Qward]

Why is this thread live lol

Because it has hot singles near you!

 

[Eggtimer]

You're not taking contracts into account here. Fiala is due for a fat payday, and rightfully so. Is it worth giving Fiala a long term big money deal when at some point Ottawa has to pay their young studs?

With the draft pick you get a cost controlled young player for at least 5 season's, which is invauable for a team like Ottawa


Wild can't afford to keep their 85 point proven stud forward. It's the Suter and Parise tax

Is it a for sure ? Do they prefer to move him or Dumba instead ? I am askimg as I do not know the Wilds cap situation or preference on who they want to prioritize keeping .

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think the ideal trade for Fiala would be something like Holtz+2nd. Plug Holtz across from Boldy. If you are feeling truly spicy, put Rossi between both of them.

Don't know if they would be a good line or not.


You're not taking into account that you are getting a point per game player right now. That cost controlled asset could take three years to break into the NHL and very likely wouldn't be as good as Fiala.

At 20-21 years old, probably not, but I'd still want to watch it.

At 24-25 years old, that line could be absolutely insane.