Player Discussion Shane Pinto (C) - PART 2

Ice-Tray

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This contract is going to be really tricky. You can't succeed as a team by overpaying your 3rd line guys.
You can if your third line guy is a second line guy on lots of teams, and none of your top six guys are paid like elite talent.

Spread the wealth, create a deep team of good talented players.
 
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You can if your third line guy is a second line guy on lots of teams, and none of your top six guys are paid like elite talent.

Spread the wealth, create a deep team of good talented players.

He should be the second line center on this team. And will be while Norris' shoulder heals. And then again when Norris' shoulder explodes again.
 
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Unless you're going to trade Pinto, you sign him to the longest term deal possible because he is the type of player who is never going to be cheaper than he will now after getting popped for the gambling incident and missing half a season.

Not to mention, the timing with the salary cap. If you bridge him 2-3 seasons, you're looking at a 100M+ cap.

6.125M x 8 years.
 

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Unless you're going to trade Pinto, you sign him to the longest term deal possible because he is the type of player who is never going to be cheaper than he will now after getting popped for the gambling incident and missing half a season.

Not to mention, the timing with the salary cap. If you bridge him 2-3 seasons, you're looking at a 100M+ cap.

6.125M x 8 years.
And you can use bathersons contract in your favor
 

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Crazy to think we still have more playoff series wins than the Leafs since the start of Matthews' career. Yes we havent made the playoffs, but I would still choose our core over theirs.. proven playoff flakes.

ok but that makes our core proven regular season flakes.
 

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ok but that makes our core proven regular season flakes.
Guess so, but I still prefer that over choking in the playoffs when expectations are high.

Hope the rumors for the Pinto extension are true, we really missed him in the first half of the season especially with Norris playing cautious.
 

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Pinto himself said that he wants a long term deal and wants to stay in a recent interview.

If that’s what the player wants, it’s hard to imagine a long term deal not getting done given that it should jive with what we want as well.
 
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Love Pinto. He's developing nicely. Crucial piece especially while he's not yet locked up on a long term big money contract. Learning my lesson from Norris, I wouldnt be ready to give him more than bridge right now.
 
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Pinto himself said that he wants a long term deal and wants to stay in a recent interview.

If that’s what the player wants, it’s hard to imagine a long term deal not getting done given that it should jive with what we want as well.
I can’t remember who it was, maybe Bruce, who also said when Pinto came back from the suspension that the Sens would like to go long-term. Not 8 years but maybe 5 or 6.

I’m guessing he’s gonna cost around 6 million.
 
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I think Anthony Cirelli is a good comparison for Pinto Bean. He had a 3 year bridge deal at $4.8 million aav and then signed for 8 years at $6.25 million aav.

On a 3 year deal, Pinto shouldn't cost more than $4.5 per year, but a $6.25-6.5 per year @ 8 years would be fair.
 

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The Batherson and Cirelli contract comps make a lot of sense to me. Something in the 5/6 x 5/6 range and the organization and fanbase should be estatic.
 

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Shane Pinto and the Sens closing in on an extension? Would be nice to see him locked up to a reasonable contract, maybe a 4-6 year deal. Curious to see how Staios and the org value him. I still believe in Norris to create a triple-headed monster on C with three Stu and Pinto.

I have heard murmur on this, though I don't see anything reported on media yet, that they have been negotiating a longer term deal.



Hope Bruce is not copying and pasting stuff from my posts here a la Don Brennan lol, but also heard 4-6 years which is better IMHO than a max term deal so we have enough cap to fill other needs. Cautiously optimistic about a deal that looks a bit higher than Batherson’s, between $5M and $6M.
 
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Watching the exit interviews. Pinto is hilarious.
Media guy.."Your up Shane."
"My turn?! What do you mean? How is it my turn?! Fck you guys!" Looks at all the boys. Jugs the rest of his beer, slams a shot of Jamo. "Let's answer some questions! You guys just sit. I'll answer them all! Let's goooo!"
 

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I don't think he would gamble on playing without full insurance if the gap isn't bridgeable.

This is a very important contract for Staios and co. because it's the first big name player they sign.

In terms of a team salary structure, they could easily point to the other contracts and say they don't mean anything because they were done by a different ownership/management.
 
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I don't think he would gamble on playing without full insurance if the gap isn't bridgeable.

This is a very important contract for Staios and co. because it's the first big name player they sign.

In terms of a team salary structure, they could easily point to the other contracts and say they don't mean anything because they were done by a different ownership/management.
That was what I was thinking as well
 

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