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It's very possible. Especially if the other teams take a step forward.
Who takes a step forward, though?

BOS is done
FLA is entering their cap problems
TB will be another year older, another year of more wear and tear
Don't think any of BUF/OTT/DET take huge leaps to beat us
NYR will be around the same, maybe improve if their young guys can get better
CAR doesn't have much room to improve from here, they lack high end offensive talent and you don't just pick that up as a final piece
WSH/PIT are on the decline
The rest of the metro isn't good enough


We're entering an interesting time in the eastern conference
 
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So regular season points and playoff seeding and home ice advantage not really a factor when you go up against a potential dynasty team like Tampa Bay.,

Tampa could and likely will win the Cup and started every series on the road, without home ice, and finishing lower in the standings than all their 4 opponents yet are still considered the favourites.
I think most fans consider the matchup rather than just looking at standings, no? Especially with some pretty tight seeding in our division 1 through 4. Otherwise every single playoff bracket would be identical.
 
They are the two time defending champions. Of course they are favored. How could it be otherwise?
Some Leaf fans predicted the Leafs in 4 or 5 games so hard to see how they thought TB were the favourites. :)


I had the Leafs losing in 7 so I thought it would be close and Leafs losing against a better team despite the better regular season and home ice advantage.
 
Funny how when discussing regular season records, Dubas fans will point to Leafs being a top 5 team but when it comes to playoffs, they are like well, regular season standings didn’t mean anything bc Leafs were not the fav against BJs, Habs and TB.

Who takes a step forward, though?

BOS is done
FLA is entering their cap problems
TB will be another year older, another year of more wear and tear
Don't think any of BUF/OTT/DET take huge leaps to beat us
NYR will be around the same, maybe improve if their young guys can get better
CAR doesn't have much room to improve from here, they lack high end offensive talent and you don't just pick that up as a final piece
WSH/PIT are on the decline
The rest of the metro isn't good enough


We're entering an interesting time in the eastern conference
Yep and the excuse if Leafs lose in the first round again would be bad ice bc we heard all the outgoalied, tired, injuries, refs, and fans excuses.
 
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And that proportion shrinks with passing time giving the team more room around the edges to maneuver signing players. The notion that a rising cap is of next to no benefit to the team (which seems to be implied from some here) is a fallacy

You seem to be having a difficult time grasping the premise.

If the signed players take up less proportionally, but the players we have to sign take up more due to their being more cap space, it makes absolutely no difference.

It's amazing how many have zero understanding of economics. You guys sound like the BOC when they said we were about to have deflation instead of 30 year high inflation. You couldn't be more wrong.
 
It's not "all random", and you can certainly increase your chance of winning, and you can increase your preparation and give yourself more opportunities, but you cannot increase luck. That's, by definition, impossible.

A person who gets lucky will prepare and put themselves in good positions beforehand, and so when they get lucky, they think that the luck was a result of putting themselves in that good position, being prepared, creating opportunities, etc. However, those people forget that just as many people who do the exact same things you did, will not get lucky.

That's what luck is. It's not the preparation and the putting yourselves in good positions. It's the differing outcomes that still come from that.

If we took two teams that were exactly equally prepared and put themselves in the exact same great position, and gave themselves the exact same great opportunities, etc., and we pit them against each other in a playoff series, who wins and why?

They saw a decent player who could fill a role, like any other team with their players. They had no idea that he would score 2 goals in a game 7 they barely even got to. He has 7 points in 15 games, so he's not exactly busting the door down. And they spent a goldmine on Hagel, who has been pretty disappointing for them, so where was this magical machine that showed them the future with Paul when Hagel was being acquired? What if the refs aren't braindead and they don't hand them game 6, or the puck bounces around and one of the 9 OT shots we got went in, and they never get to game 7 for Paul to score 2 goals? How does the Paul acquisition look then? What if the refs aren't braindead again in game 7, and the game is tied and we win in OT? Both teams would have done the same everything that they did, but the outcome would be different.
So in essence you’re saying that Dubas has been lucky with his UFA and trade deadline signings.
My mother used to say, “if ifs and ands were pots and pans, there’d be a lot of dishes.” Tampa Bay having won 2 consecutive Cups, and getting to the finals for the 3rd season in a row, while also having to replace some of their bottom 6 (who played important roles in the playoffs), one would have to think there is more to it than luck. Maybe their ownership group, along with management (and coach) and players, especially their core, are willing to do whatever it takes to win, and therefore everyone has bought in.
It might seem that Tampa’s wake up call may have been getting swept by Columbus in the 1st round, after they had just won the President’s trophy for having finished 1st overall. Look what they’ve done since. Are you telling me that all that they have accomplished since then is luck? I hope not!
Why haven’t the Leafs had their wake up call yet? Wasn’t losing to David Ayres (sp?) reason for it? Wasn’t losing to the hated Habs (especially after being up 3 games to 1) reason enough? And now this season, after being up 3 games to 2 AND having the 7th game on home ice, will that be their wake up call? Or maybe the refs will stop picking on the Leafs?
Man, you talk about the Bolts being “lucky” for the 3rd straight season, and our Leafs being “unlucky” for at the very least, 3 straight seasons???
Maybe “luck” only plays a small part, and how you build a successful franchise, plays a MUCH bigger part!
I know which way I’m leaning!
 
Some Leaf fans predicted the Leafs in 4 or 5 games so hard to see how they thought TB were the favourites. :)


I had the Leafs losing in 7 so I thought it would be close and Leafs losing against a better team despite the better regular season and home ice advantage.

Except the Leafs outplayed and outscored the Bolts.
 
Who takes a step forward, though?

BOS is done
FLA is entering their cap problems
TB will be another year older, another year of more wear and tear
Don't think any of BUF/OTT/DET take huge leaps to beat us
NYR will be around the same, maybe improve if their young guys can get better
CAR doesn't have much room to improve from here, they lack high end offensive talent and you don't just pick that up as a final piece
WSH/PIT are on the decline
The rest of the metro isn't good enough


We're entering an interesting time in the eastern conference
This reminds me that when Tampa won their Cup in 2020:

- Stamkos was younger than Tavares is now
- Point was younger than Marner and Matthews
- Kucherov was the same age as Nylander
- Hedman was about the same age as Rielly will be next season
- The Leafs have no player comparable to either Sergachev or Vasilevskiy
 
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Regular season is very important, who wants to watch losing hockey for 6 months. just read the gdts and post gdts after a loss.
Watching regular season games is fine. The Leafs are a very good regular season team. It’s when the “real” season starts, ie the playoffs, that the Leafs fold when it matters the most.
 
This reminds me that when Tampa won their Cup in 2020:

- Stamkos was younger than Tavares is now
- Point was younger than Marner and Matthews
- Kucherov was the same age as Nylander
- Hedman was about the same age as Rielly will be next season
- The Leafs have no player comparable to either Sergachev or Vasilevskiy

Only your first two points and Vasilevsky are true...
 
Yeah, it's hard to win a series when you have to outplay the officials too. But NHL gonna NHL

I don’t wanna ride the it was the refs train but our series really was f***ed up from the officiating standpoint. Just puzzling calls, both ways in fairness, though we got more.

I have more issue with just the game 7 goals than anything else though. Still burns me now that Tavares goal was called off for interference but the first Paul goal wasn’t. Those are the breaks, but just felt like that in particular nearly cost us game 7.

I mean by that, the Paul goal allowed Tampa to play with the lead which changes the complexion of the game. But ultimately, we had the third period still to try to find the tying goal at 2 and I really didn’t think we mounted much of a push and that is completely on us

Game 6 we had the phantom high stick call that then became the 2 man disadvantage late that really cost us. But refs are human and Foote sold it masterfully, but again, in this we were still tied, played well in OT and just didn’t convert despite the ice being titled heavily in our favour.

The opportunities were there to overcome the perceived reffing issues and we failed to do it
 
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I don’t wanna ride the it was the refs train but our series really was f***ed up from the officiating standpoint. Just puzzling calls, both ways in fairness, though we got more.

I have more issue with just the game 7 goals than anything else though. Still burns me now that Tavares goal was called off for interference but the first Paul goal wasn’t. Those are the breaks, but just felt like that in particular nearly cost us game 7.

I mean by that, the Paul goal allowed Tampa to play with the lead which changes the complexion of the game. But ultimately, we had the third period still to try to find the tying goal at 2 and I really didn’t think we mounted much of a push and that is completely on us

Game 6 we had the phantom high stick call that then became the 2 man disadvantage late that really cost us. But refs are human and Foote sold it masterfully, but again, in this we were still tied, played well in OT and Judy didn’t convert despite the ice being titled heavily in our favour.

The opportunities were there to overcome the perceived reffing issues and we failed to do it
Great post, my main point was just that we should not HAVE to outplay the officiating issues. If they did their job correctly that series is over in 6 quite easily. But you are right, we had opportunities to end it despite the officiating, but I just feel like it should not have come to that. Officials gave them a lifeline, that's all a team like Tampa needs, just a chance.

Like imagine we got those kinds of calls and non calls, game 6 would have been an absolute blow out.
 
Actually further to my previous post, I’d actually support video review for penalty calls in the 3rd period or OT during the playoffs. Gotta get them right because late they can swing the entire game. Goal review can be long at times because of camera angles and discerning the puck from pads, is it over the line completely, puck in the air vs along the ice complicates determining that etc etc. Really shouldn’t be more than 20-30 seconds to review a penalty call imo. Like the objective ones like hooking, tripping, high sticking etc and there shouldn’t be that many based on the standard they usually call the playoffs by anyway. And tons of cameras
 
Some Leaf fans predicted the Leafs in 4 or 5 games so hard to see how they thought TB were the favourites. :)


I had the Leafs losing in 7 so I thought it would be close and Leafs losing against a better team despite the better regular season and home ice advantage.
I really thought the Leafs would win in 6…….was I sadly mistaken
 
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