Confirmed with Link: Shanahan, Dubas, Keefe all staying

[JKG33]

Not even a little bit suprising. I called this before the playoffs even started.

I had this delusional hope that they'd actually get fired, much in the same way half this fanbase had the delusional hope that they'd beat Tampa

 

[WTFMAN99]

I think Auston Matthews needs to score more clutch goals in the playoffs games than he has before we can push that narrative.

So you're cool if he leaves?

 

[TMLegend]

Guess I won't be watching much Leaf hockey next year either. Tuned in for the playoffs, might have watched ten regular season games this past season.

It's exactly what I expected, but it's still a @#$%^&* joke.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Stability will win out over change.

The "stability" of a record major league sports 5 time first round losers? That kind of "stability"?

Feels great to win as many playoff series as the Atlanta Thrashers since 2004.

And that management is happy with that.

 

[ACC1224]

The "stability" of a record major league sports 5 time first round losers? That kind of "stability"?

consistency is a strong suit

 

[57 Years No Cup]

super duper awesome.

Sarcasm?

 

[justloveleafs]

Too bad Point is pretty much toast, cause I would wager Tampa with him, would get to the finals at least.

I think Liljegren for Holl was f***ing dumb. And that Lilly would have been that teeny margin for victory.

But this was for me anyways the best Leaf team I have ever watched. And entertaining. Sure I would like to be watching more Leaf hockey, but tant pis. Didn't happen.

Btw, I thought GIO was awful at getting pucks out of his zone. Not as big a fan as many here. But he did some good stuff though besides that.

Kase, Micheyev and Giraffe really sucked for the latter part of the series. That surprised me a bit.

 

[WTFMAN99]

The "stability" of a record major league sports 5 time first round losers? That kind of "stability"?


And that management is happy with that.

I'm in the wrong place for this message but money talks. Don't give TV ratings, cancel tv packages, don't buy merchandise, don't go to games.

I watched 15-30 minutes here and there of different games.

I watched 1st game of season because a friend took me with tickets...and I just watched MTL and DAL games at the end to see if Matthews would hit 60.

Watched a few playoff games, I absolutely have zero passion or love for the franchise currently.

I want to see what he does this off-season, if he actually runs it back, I am like most other posters on here, checking out.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

I'm completely shocked.
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They dont give a f*** about winning a cup anymore. Clearly regular season success is good enough for ownership.

 

[killer1980]

The trouble is the Dubas Kool-aid Kids, as a lawyer would say, "Assume facts not in evidence." Believing this club and management team is top tier is a lot different than them actually proving it. Yet another 1st round exit with AM & MM a combined -6 over the last 5 games. That is not a winning formula. Vasi had the worst playoff series of his career and TB still won. Take a big sip boys, with the coach, GM and the most overpaid and overrated players in the league, next year will be the start of a steep decline.

 

[CelticDruid]

Too bad Point is pretty much toast, cause I would wager Tampa with him, would get to the finals at least.

I think Liljegren for Holl was f***ing dumb. And that Lilly would have been that teeny margin for victory.

But this was for me anyways the best Leaf team I have ever watched. And entertaining. Sure I would like to be watching more Leaf hockey, but tant pis. Didn't happen.

Btw, I thought GIO was awful at getting pucks out of his zone. Not as big a fan as many here. But he did some good stuff though besides that.

Kase, Micheyev and Giraffe really sucked for the latter part of the series. That surprised me a bit.

You forgot Engvall (Tinkerbell)

 

[3blizzard4]

As excited I was with Matthews season I kept saying to myself “let’s see what they do in the playoffs”. Now that there went out in the first round again, I Guess that will be be my saying again next season.

Heck Leafs are really making it hard on us fans to defend this team against haters. Like , how can we defend anymore?

The old adage ‘fool me once shame on you, fool
Me twice shame on me’.

Been a fan of this team since 1992. 30 years.

 

[killer1980]

The old adage ‘fool me once shame on you, fool
Me twice shame on me’.

What's the saying when they fool you 5 times? F*** me! I guess.

 

[Superstar]

I'm completely shocked.
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They dont give a f*** about winning a cup anymore. Clearly regular season success is good enough for ownership.

So sweet and beautiful...

keep pecking hoping for a breakthrough

You're insulting the woodpecker.

 

[Trapper]

consistency is a strong suit

At what point does what you do repeatedly become the norm and anything else is abnormal?

 

[mcleex]

I can't wait to see how much respect we get at the handshake line next year

 

[Canadian Finn]

Sarcasm?

thick as Minnie's wallet.

It wont be the last attempt until fans start tossing jerseys on the ice again. Otherwise this will continue indefinitely.

fans were literally pissing on their jerseys in the square Saturday night.

 

[Shayne Corsi]

Shanahan is officially the new Bryan Colangelo and Dubas the new Andrea Bargnani. Remarkable lack of accountability.

 

[2 Slick]

I said I wouldn't get excited last season after that debacle against Montreal, yet I still watched every regular season game last year. I love this team, will never cheer for any other team, but I'm not going to invest that same time, dedication, effort, heart and passion into the team next season. I'll catch a game here and there, catch highlights, but I refuse to see the status quo kids and management do the same song and dance and expect different results.

It's like watching a really entertaining movie with a shitty ending. You know the bulk of it (regular season) will be good, but the ending (playoffs) will be the same.

Yeah, zero excitement for next season, zero expectations and much less engagement, views, clicks from me. No one will care, nor would i expect any one to, I know I wouldn't care if someone didn't watch every regular season game. I'm just saying it because as a fan of a team I've loved my entire life, as passionate as I am about them, I refuse to invest that same time, effort and passion in a team that doesn't care about winning.

This is a case of a franchise making rivers of money even if they keep failing. They don't need to win championships to sell out arenas, the fans will come back next season, they will still watch, buy merchandise, sell out every home game. It's hard to make changes when complacency is king and gives them more money than any other team.

I'm sure Marner and Matthews will have fantastic individual efforts and seasons in the regular season starting in October of this year.

It also means John Tavares is also older, as his play continues to regress due to age. Nylander will still be the same, put up points with many nights of no-shows, soft plays, coasting and not caring.

It's hard for me to care when management shows they don't care. So... I'll love them the same next season, but I won't care next season since they told me I shouldn't, so I won't.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Who's we......the Dubas fan club? Sure, go ahead a list his positive moves. Here are a few on the other side of good:

Traded Kadri for Barrie (1 year crappy rental) and Kerfoot.

Traded a 1st round pick Nick Foligno (who was clearly injured for a good part of the season prior to the TDL).

Signed UFA Peter Mrzek (3 year/$3.8M cap hit when they have no wiggle room), when his #1 Jack Campbell (who is also Dubas guy) was expected to be #1A and a UFA at the end of the season (If you believe Jack Campbell would be the #1A in this scenario than he gave a direct comparable of $3.8M for his backup......agent would use this number and understandably be seeking $5M plus).

Signed UFA Nick Ritchie (no cap wiggle room)

Traded a 1st round pick to jettison Patrick Marleau's final year of his contract (find another example of having to attach a 1st round pick to move out a contract while only receiving a 6th round pick in return).

Traded Connor Brown and Nikita Zaitsev for Cody Ceci.

Traded Kasperi Kapanen for 1st round pick (Amirov health is not up for discussion), this is to illustrates once again that depth was traded off the team for someone who isn't on the roster the current group.

Traded Mason Marchment to Florida for Dennis Malgin (after spending time and resources developing Marchment and starting to see his game flourish at the AHL level).

Traded Andreas Johnsson for Joey Anderson


*Everyone appears to be dumbfounded on our lack of depth*


Lost in the 1st round in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022

LOL, not sure if serious. I can't be bothered to waste my time on all these individually but at the time, many of there moves were received very well by fans. The best example if perhaps Kapanen for a 1st - widely viewed as a steal for the Leafs. He's made mistakes for sure but everyone makes mistakes, a 1st for Foligno for example, I didn't like it at the time and it didn't work out well but most people here thought it was a great move - gotta go allin blah blah blah.

He made some good moves too, Dubas completely rebuilt the defence, that's a number of moves there, not going to bother listing them one by one.

Look at the roster when Dubas took over and look at the roster today, you tell me which one you prefer. And while I'm not happy with all the futures he traded away last season, I'm very happy that we haven't traded any top prospects with Dubas in charge and this season we didn't trade any first round picks as well while pretty much all the other contenders did.

Shanahan is officially the new Bryan Colangelo and Dubas the new Andrea Bargnani. Remarkable lack of accountability.

Link?

 

[m1ker]

Bend over for the core and they’ll still leave when their contracts up… that’s the upsetting part

 

[All Mod Cons]

I think this is obviously their last chance and probably a full clear out of all if they loose again in the 1st round. Its a shame that Dubas is willing to go down with the ship as i think he is far better than the other 2. If he fired Keefe this summer and still lost in the 1st round, Dubas is probably safe as he can point to trying to make changes etc. Without any major changes (i don't expect we will see the core change except for goalies either) Dubas will know he is done if they flame out again. Seems a really Loyal guy, if that is good for job prospects in the NHL is to be seen lol

Nonsense. This has been said for years. Not even Dubas believes he's under any pressure to win a around.

They'll run it back for Matthews' contract year.

 

[BLONG7]

Shanahan is officially the new Bryan Colangelo and Dubas the new Andrea Bargnani. Remarkable lack of accountability.

The boys are getting comfy......break out the cigars, and extensions.

 

[Maplebeasts]

I can't wait to see how much respect we get at the handshake line next year

Ain't no one disrespecting the cup winners.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Shanahan is officially the new Bryan Colangelo and Dubas the new Andrea Bargnani. Remarkable lack of accountability.

Especially when he has no nhl track record but swears by his vision