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"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Scotiabank Arena, in celebration of last season when your Toronto Maple Leafs earned respect during the handshake ritual after the conclusion of game 7 of the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, we will like you to remove your hats, turn your heads and face the rafters as we proudly raise the banner in celebration of this proud achievement. Each of you will find under your seats a participation ribbon with a fridge magnet for you to take home with you to proudly commemorate that monumental occasion." :sarcasm:
 
There certainly is a lot of luck involved in hockey, but not enough to believe that 6 consecutive first round exits can just be explained away by bad vibes or whatever. Hockey isn't as purely skill based as something like chess, but we aren't talking about flipping a coin 6 times in a row either. If you lose at the same point of the playoffs every year with the same core, it's probably because you deserve it
I think by stating how impressed they are by the teams effort against TB in game 7 that they knew the last few deciding game losses were totally our fault even though they pretended otherwise. Dubas even commended the players for not making excuses like other teams....wow...just friggin wow...
 
We keep bleeding depth in order to keep this core and somehow expect them to win. We had depth a few years ago...we bled away Kappy and Johnsson along with Connor Brown etc. How do they think changing 30% or more of the team every year will work to our benefit? Maybe that's why they call themselves a "group" instead of a team.
You forgot the most important loss.... Kadri.
 
Sheldon Keefe says he felt the Leafs got a lot more respect in tonight’s handshake line than in previous series.

It’s not all about wins and losses, sometimes getting “More respect in the handshake line” is what you play all season to achieve
They got to hoist the "Tampa Respects Us" Cup.
 
play that game 7 one hundred times and nick paul won't replicate what he did. it's more about having some depth, not nick paul in particular. our depth was lacking (no shows from engvall, mikheyev, etc.), which was one of the differences int he series.
Nick Paul purposely drove to the net, twice, and was rewarded. Forget the depth, why can't Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, and Marner do that?

I'll tell you why. They're cowards. And they already got paid.
 
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Well that's my point, it's usually Bunting who does the flopping (and it worked well, he was top 5 in the league during the season in drawing penalties, I agree it's surprising they didn't call any for him during the playoffs)

The rest of the team needs some of that in their game, though. I love that we try to fight through contact but sometimes you gotta go down. Tampa is so f***ing infuriating because they'll go down real easy (Corey Perry, I hate that guy)
 
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"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Scotiabank Arena, in celebration of last season when your Toronto Maple Leafs earned respect during the handshake ritual after the conclusion of game 7 of the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, we will like you to remove your hats, turn your heads and face the rafters as we proudly raise the banner in celebration of this proud achievement. Each of you will find under your seats a participation ribbon with a fridge magnet for you to take home with you to proudly commemorate that monumental occasion." :sarcasm:
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Me too. We also have a third rounder due to the Dermott trade. Winipeg's I think
Expecting a dubie trade back special to back fill some lost draft capital. From what I understand as per usual after the 15-20 mark there’s a group of kids who could go 23 or 43 so if there’s a few management likes still on the board at their pick I wouldn’t object to moving back for an extra 3rd+ or whatever
 
"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Scotiabank Arena, in celebration of last season when your Toronto Maple Leafs earned respect during the handshake ritual after the conclusion of game 7 of the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, we will like you to remove your hats, turn your heads and face the rafters as we proudly raise the banner in celebration of this proud achievement. Each of you will find under your seats a participation ribbon with a fridge magnet for you to take home with you to proudly commemorate that monumental occasion." :sarcasm:

Are you implying the fridge magnet is free:laugh:

oh you sweet summer child
 
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Is there a second participation ribbon or fridge magnet for that?

Expecting a dubie trade back special to back fill some lost draft capital. From what I understand as per usual after the 15-20 mark there’s a group of kids who could go 23 or 43 so if there’s a few management likes still on the board at their pick I wouldn’t object to moving back for an extra 3rd+ or whatever
Yeah, for sure. Or include the first as part of a trade. Regardless, I am looking forward to it.
 
Well that's my point, it's usually Bunting who does the flopping (and it worked well, he was top 5 in the league during the season in drawing penalties, I agree it's surprising they didn't call any for him during the playoffs)

The rest of the team needs some of that in their game, though. I love that we try to fight through contact but sometimes you gotta go down. Tampa is so f***ing infuriating because they'll go down real easy (Corey Perry, I hate that guy)
Issue is, it wouldn't work that way for us. Yeah, maybe for a while we'd draw penalties, but after a while the refs would use it as an excuse to give us embellishment penalties instead of invented hooks and holds.
 
They had better hit with the first and third as 7’s are a crap shoot. 2023 draft capital is lean too. When you start drafting near the bottom you need a good scouting department and GM. Toronto has neither. The good news about the losing first round again is you get a higher pick. Montreal has better prospects than the Leafs. Add the Wright kid behind Suzuki and Dvorak and they will have 3 top centres and they have way better young defensemen in their system + they have Carey Price and Josh Allen. Didn’t a healthy Carey take them to the final?
 
There certainly is a lot of luck involved in hockey, but not enough to believe that 6 consecutive first round exits can just be explained away by bad vibes or whatever. Hockey isn't as purely skill based as something like chess, but we aren't talking about flipping a coin 6 times in a row either. If you lose at the same point of the playoffs every year with the same core, it's probably because you deserve it

and everything else has changed around the core -- the supporting cast, the coach, the quality of the opponent (worst team ever to make the playoffs in league history & back-to-back reigning champs), etc. at some point it's hard to dismiss that much empirical evidence.
 
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This freakin' management is so bad they made me agree with a moron like Feschuck.
 
Ballard would have ordered Matthews Marner and Nylander traded as soon as their ELCs were up.


The Ballard reference was taken from the post I quoted, and the only older Leaf fans would get the tongue-in-cheek reference to coach with Bag over his head firing reference . :wg:

The back story is back in the 1980's Harold Ballard fired then coach Roger Neilson, and then wanted him to show up again behind the Leafs bench with a bag over his head, rehired a few days later which Neilson refused obviously.,

“Game time was coming up and Harold came out of his office in his bathrobe,” said Stellick. “That’s when I heard him tell Gregory he wanted Roger to wear the bag. No one would be standing behind our bench until just before puck drop, then Roger would come out wearing the bag and pull it off or have someone do it at the last second.”

Here is that backstory to that circus.

A look back at the Roger Neilson 'paper bag' game and Pal Hal's theatre of the absurd


But 40 years ago this month, the owner almost put one over Roger Neilson’s head for a game when he ‘unfired’ his head coach. The three-day soap opera, which included Neilson being dismissed on live TV, a desperate search for a replacement, a player campaign to have Ballard change his mind, capped by the paper-bag caper, remains one of the most entertaining — make that embarrassing — episodes in Leaf history.

“The whole charade was so off-the-wall,” captain Darryl Sittler said in taking himself back to those crazy days on Carlton St. “But there were a lot of circuses back then.”

To quickly recap, Ballard had grown impatient with “school-boy hockey” as Neilson’s second season was coming to an end. After beating the Islanders and getting to the conference final the year before, the Leafs wobbled down the stretch and went into Montreal on a Thursday with a four-game losing streak.

After praising Neilson’s use of video and early analytics, Ballard belittled the cerebral coach in public. He plotted to fire Neilson, but as in many of his personnel decisions, lacked courage to do it face-to-face.

When Toronto played well, but lost 2-1 to the Stanley Cup-champion Habs, TV host Dick Beddoes chased Ballard down the Forum hallway, a cameraman in tow. The two huddled and Beddoes rushed back to tell viewers Neilson was gone.

Continued Full story: A look back at the Roger Neilson 'paper bag' game and Pal Hal's theatre of the absurd
 
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They had 3 PP's in game 7 and pansied around the perimeter and thus went 0 FOR 3.

I'm with you. I'm way past tired of the excuses and victim mentality.

Toughen up and WIN.
lol I never thought of this particular aspect of wokeness before. Well done, sir.

In the anguished poor-me lament of Leaf players and management, "IT STINGS!"
 
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