GDT: Senators @ Flames | 9PM | TSN2, SNW, RDS | The Turnstile of Turncoat Turnarounds Edition

[Butchy Dakkar]

The Jekyll and Hyde Ottawa Senators.

Blow out or get blown out.

One of best powerplay teams to something that looks like amateur hour.

Chasing an NHL record for most consecutive games with a shorty against.

Get fans engaged and excited with a push for the playoffs, then sh*t the bed in dramatic fashion.

Sigh

 

[swiftwin]

Players that were already highly thought of before playing on this team. There's no evidence that they've gotten better because of DJ.

Just ask Rangers fans about Laf and/or Kakko. Then look at Stu.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

The Games get tougher in the next little while. Do they pack their tents and go home or do they show up and put up a fight?

They had a legit chance to catch the Islanders and hold off Buffalo or Florida.. Do they regain their game and push for it or do they believe they are done?

Losing games they should win in the way they did has to be crushing for moral and time is running thin

 

[KingAlfie11]

This team has far better players. And we still keep finishing at the bottom.

But how good are the players we have? What is their character? They have talent no doubt but you don't win on talent alone in this league. Too me it looks like they hate losing enough to want to really pay the price to win

 

[IpsoPostFacto]

Some of you are acting like he will never get hired again.

oh, we seem to take care of former coaches and their post Sens success.

 

[Union2017]

Just ask Rangers fans about Laf and/or Kakko. Then look at Stu.

Oh yeah, Stu is all about DJ and his coaching. Dude, seriously.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The Games get tougher in the next little while. Do they pack their tents and go home or do they show up and put up a fight?

They had a legit chance to catch the Islanders and hold off Buffalo or Florida.. Do they regain their game and push for it or do they believe they are done?

Losing games they should win in the way they did has to be crushing for moral and time is running thin

Pretty hard to keep the juju going after laying 3 eggs in 4 must win games.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

The Blackhawks didn’t keep Denis Savard around even though Kane and Toews “developed” under him and they were playing meaningful games at the end of 07/08.

 

[PatrickEaves]

They did not start after us. They started before us, and lucked out on a couple long-shot lottery wins.

Your lies are getting pretty pathetic.

Jack Hughes was drafted in the 2019 entry draft.

We drafted Brady Tkachuk in the 2018 entry draft, a draft in which New Jersey drafted 17th overall.

Who started their rebuild first again?

 

[swiftwin]

The Blackhawks didn’t keep Denis Savard around even though Kane and Toews “developed” under him and they were playing meaningful games at the end of 07/08.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm good with letting DJ go if it appears he's lost the room. It doesn't mean DJ is a bad coach.

 

[Union2017]

But how good are the players we have? What is their character? They have talent no doubt but you don't win on talent alone in this league. Too me it looks like they hate losing enough to want to really pay the price to win

Let’s look at Giroux. A guy who we put on the PP2 to be on the ice for about 40 seconds while we keep Batherson on PP1. PP is not so much about the character at least not in the regular season. And our PP looks super bad now

 

[Karl Prime]

They did not start after us. They started before us, and lucked out on a couple long-shot lottery wins.

Your lies are getting pretty pathetic.

So NJ got lucky. So did Ottawa in relying on SJ totally imploding in 2020 and then Stutzle falling to them at 3.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Did a fantastic job at developing this core of young players.

Yeah I agree with this. Now it’s time for someone else.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm good with letting DJ go if it appears he's lost the room. It doesn't mean DJ is a bad coach.

In your mind what does determine if a coach is bad or not.

 

[Union2017]

Nothing wrong with that. I'm good with letting DJ go if it appears he's lost the room. It doesn't mean DJ is a bad coach.

Nah, it’s him and then Trotz and then Julien

Yeah I agree with this. Now it’s time for someone else.


In your mind what does determine if a coach is bad or not.

Anyone else

 

[swiftwin]

Jack Hughes was drafted in the 2019 entry draft.

We drafted Brady Tkachuk in the 2018 entry draft, a draft in which New Jersey drafted 17th overall.

Who started their rebuild first again?

The Devils made the playoffs one since 2012 (the year Hall won the Hart and singlehanded dragged them in).

So no, you're wrong.

 

[Karl Prime]

Martin did a great job developing Alfie, Phillips, Redden, Hossa, Havlat, and Fisher.

He still got replaced when it was apparent a new coach was needed.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If only we didn’t take those two penalties in the last minute last night we could be 2-0 this weekend

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Nothing wrong with that. I'm good with letting DJ go if it appears he's lost the room. It doesn't mean DJ is a bad coach.

He doesn’t need to have lost the room. You can keep losing and still have good player/coach relationships. It happpens a lot. Kane was literally crying on camera when Savard got let go.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I said I was expecting a blowout loss, but I thought we'd manage more than one fluke goal against a bubble team. Sad shit.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Martin did a great job developing Alfie, Phillips, Redden, Hossa, Havlat, and Fisher.

He still got replaced when it was apparent a new coach was needed.

Shouldn’t have been let go. He never explicitly coached us to lose and told us to let in more goals than we scored

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

The Jekyll and Hyde Ottawa Senators.

Blow out or get blown out.

One of best powerplay teams to something that looks like amateur hour.

Chasing an NHL record for most consecutive games with a shorty against.

Get fans engaged and excited with a push for the playoffs, then sh*t the bed in dramatic fashion.

Sigh

They are good at drama!

 

[swiftwin]

In your mind what does determine if a coach is bad or not.

Good systems, good special teams, etc.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Martin did a great job developing Alfie, Phillips, Redden, Hossa, Havlat, and Fisher.

He still got replaced when it was apparent a new coach was needed.

Coaches have a shelf life.

 

[Union2017]

I said I was expecting a blowout loss, but I thought we'd manage more than one fluke goal against a bubble team. Sad shit.

As long as DJ doesn’t lose the room. And we deserve to win. That’s all that matters brother

 

[swiftwin]

He doesn’t need to have lost the room. You can keep losing and still have good player/coach relationships. It happpens a lot. Kane was literally crying on camera when Savard got let go.

"Losing the room" doesn't mean hating the coach. It means no longer playing the systems, etc.