Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

[Knave]

Is the NCC deal with the Senators organization not contingent on the arena being built? And that would be a major reason for driving up the bids. An arena in the downtown of one of Canada's largest cities and the nation's capital. It would host the Senators as an anchor tenant and host events whether that's a touring musical act or whatever.

It seems crazy to me that someone would be willing to outbid the competition for just the team and walk away from the arena deal.

The other option is they build an arena or arena-like events center that does not host the Senators.... which again... seems absurd that you would either own two arenas or own one arena and pay rent to a third party to have the Senators play in the third party's arena.

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

I selfishly hope for Lebreton. It will be a few LRT stops for me. It will also be nice to have the aerial shots of the new rink on the river, backdropped by parliament hill etc. it will become part of the city’s identity.

It’s funny/sad how they do the aerial shots of the river and parliament for our home games and then cut to a rink surrounded by parking lots which looks like it’s in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Big Muddy]

hurdman more central tbh. 5 min drive from DT, 10 mins from South keys, 5 mins from Blair/East 10-15mins from Orleans. Lots of room to develop bars and such in the area too. Wouldn't be bad at all.

I'm going to guess you live on the east side of Ottawa LOL.

 

[Bileur]

I live pretty close to hurdman. Lebreton would be better for sure.

 

[Micklebot]

I mean there isnt anything remotely close to as good as Lebreton. Hurdman would be Kanata all over again. Nothing thats walking distance in fact id prefer it stay in Kanata over that location.

Hurdman at least is on a main transit artery, and is only about a 5 min train ride or 35 min walk from downtown so not really the same but certainly not as good as LeBreton.

im not convinced it's true though, seems like a poor thing to put out there if you're trying to win over the leagues favour.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I'm going to guess you live on the east side of Ottawa LOL.

South end. pretty much the same lol. I remember walking to Hurdman station from high school when I went to highschool downtown (lisgar)

 

[Masked]

It's really curious as with Ryan Reynolds attached to Remington, you have to think he believes whatever alternative location they have in mind is a good idea for the team going forward (if that rumour is even true)..

The Remington Group's biggest project right now is developing the 243 acre Downtown Markham. That's a bigger site than all of Lebreton Flats. But it is exactly the sort of development you'd like to see around a new Senators arena - residential use, office space, retail space, entertainment, highway access, public transit access.

If they're looking for a different site, I'd guess they want to develop a downtown around an arena and it'd be close to a highway and light rail. They might want all of LeBreton and if they can't have it all, they've got another site in mind.

Assen na yo!

 

[Golden_Jet]

Hurdman at least is on a main transit artery, and is only about a 5 min train ride or 35 min walk from downtown so not really the same but certainly not as good as LeBreton.

im not convinced it's true though, seems like a poor thing to put out there if you're trying to win over the leagues favour.

Daly said today the league is looking over the bids for the next couple of bids, and some tweaking, will occur ((can’t recall the exact wording).
If a bid is thinking of a different location. that will be part of the bid. Not something to hide from the league. The bidders will be well vetted on that account, so there will be no surprises on location plan ina bid.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Is Hurdman really viable when considering 15-20k people at an event? And can that area really be built up to be a hotspot for fans, tourists and everyday shoppers?

 

[Tuna99]

Day said today the league is looking over the bids for the next couple of bids, and some tweaking, will occur ((can’t recall the exact wording).
If a bid is thinking of a different location. that will be part of the bid. Not something to hide from the league. The bidders will be well vetted on that account, so there will be no surprises on location plan ina bid.

I hate the Remington group now - this project is about revilaitizing Ottawa not lining the pockets of some sketchy Toronto development group.

Andlauer all the way - Marc Bergevin will be our next GM and he’ll hire Joel Quenville and they’ll win at Lebreton

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

I don’t care as long as RR gets pulled in.

Actually, scratch that, I guess my preference is Remington if they are going to let RR be the one in charge of the hockey team. But ultimately, I hope RR is involved no matter who wins.

what qualifies RR to be “in charge” of an NHL franchise?

 

[Tuna99]

what qualifies RR to be “in charge” of an NHL franchise?

He knows people with lots of money who want to own a franchise and he inspires confidence - he’s a suceesfull businessman, actor and producer.

So he qualifies because he can craft the brand and make it international.

 

[bert]

Hurdman at least is on a main transit artery, and is only about a 5 min train ride or 35 min walk from downtown so not really the same but certainly not as good as LeBreton.

im not convinced it's true though, seems like a poor thing to put out there if you're trying to win over the leagues favour.

It's a lateral move at best don't spend 800 million on that type of thing.

Is Hurdman really viable when considering 15-20k people at an event? And can that area really be built up to be a hotspot for fans, tourists and everyday shoppers?

No its a horrible idea.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

He knows people with lots of money who want to own a franchise and he inspires confidence - he’s a suceesfull businessman, actor and producer.

So he qualifies because he can craft the brand and make it international.

so you envision RR being in charge of the Senators…. Would he have to give up his acting and other aspects of his life to be in charge of the Senators…. It is a full time job, is it not?

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Many years ago, when the City of Ottawa was contemplating granting the permission for a Casino to be built somewhere in Ottawa, and Sparks Street was one of the suggested locactions.

Well in typical Ottawa municipal government foot dragging, and a segment of councillors whined that residents of Ottawa would fall prey to, and become addicted to gambling and their children would go hungry….. Hull went ahead and built the Casino at Lac Lemay…. And since it was opened it has become the number tourist attraction in the National Capital Region, and all the tax revenues and benefits from the Casino have been pouring into the coffers in Hull and the province of Quebec…. And the majority of those revenues come from Ontario residents.

At the time, I thought the perfect location for a Casino, would have been on the City owned land when the Pineview Golf Course is located….. they could have used all or part of the Executive Course, of the two courses, and built a world class Casino and Hotel/Golf course complex….. and all the revenues that Hill and Quebec have enjoyed for decades, would have been flowing into Ottawa and Ontario.

Now, I’m not suggesting this location would be ideal for an NHL arena, but it does have the extra land that Developers bidding on the Sens would want, if they wanted more land that is being made available at Lebreton flats, for future commercial development. It is close to the 417 and the East - West LRT…… just saying.

 

[Tuna99]

so you envision RR being in charge of the Senators…. Would he have to give up his acting and other aspects of his life to be in charge of the Senators…. It is a full time job, is it not?

what do you mean being in charge? Does he have to sell tickets and do scouting or just direct the brand?

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

what qualifies RR to be “in charge” of an NHL franchise?

I meant from an owners perspective, not to meddle and get in the way of the folks he hires to run the team day to day.

He has business savvy and will be a great face of the ownership and team .

 

[Golden_Jet]

I hate the Remington group now - this project is about revilaitizing Ottawa not lining the pockets of some sketchy Toronto development group.

Andlauer all the way - Marc Bergevin will be our next GM and he’ll hire Joel Quenville and they’ll win at Lebreton

Quenneville sure, big no on Bergevin though for me.

 

[bert]

Many years ago, when the City of Ottawa was contemplating granting the permission for a Casino to be built somewhere in Ottawa, and Sparks Street was one of the suggested locactions.

Well in typical Ottawa municipal government foot dragging, and a segment of councillors whined that residents of Ottawa would fall prey to, and become addicted to gambling and their children would go hungry….. Hull went ahead and built the Casino at Lac Lemay…. And since it was opened it has become the number tourist attraction in the National Capital Region, and all the tax revenues and benefits from the Casino have been pouring into the coffers in Hull and the province of Quebec…. And the majority of those revenues come from Ontario residents.

At the time, I thought the perfect location for a Casino, would have been on the City owned land when the Pineview Golf Course is located….. they could have used all or part of the Executive Course, of the two courses, and built a world class Casino and Hotel/Golf course complex….. and all the revenues that Hill and Quebec have enjoyed for decades, would have been flowing into Ottawa and Ontario.

Now, I’m not suggesting this location would be ideal for an NHL arena, but it does have the extra land that Developers bidding on the Sens would want, if they wanted more land that is being made available at Lebreton flats, for future commercial development. It is close to the 417 and the East - West LRT…… just saying.

Uhhhh that's exactly what you are saying. Why else would you bring it up..... You even said 'just saying'.

It makes absolutely no sense either. Same thing as having it in Kanata. Just saying.

 

[GCK]

The Remington Group's biggest project right now is developing the 243 acre Downtown Markham. That's a bigger site than all of Lebreton Flats. But it is exactly the sort of development you'd like to see around a new Senators arena - residential use, office space, retail space, entertainment, highway access, public transit access.

If they're looking for a different site, I'd guess they want to develop a downtown around an arena and it'd be close to a highway and light rail. They might want all of LeBreton and if they can't have it all, they've got another site in mind.

Assen na yo!

The Remington downtown Markham development might be the fastest build I’ve ever seen. It’s crazy how much gets built every couple months.

 

[GCK]

The Remington Group's biggest project right now is developing the 243 acre Downtown Markham. That's a bigger site than all of Lebreton Flats. But it is exactly the sort of development you'd like to see around a new Senators arena - residential use, office space, retail space, entertainment, highway access, public transit access.

If they're looking for a different site, I'd guess they want to develop a downtown around an arena and it'd be close to a highway and light rail. They might want all of LeBreton and if they can't have it all, they've got another site in mind.

Assen na yo!

Since the NCC moved to multiple parcels after RV Lebreton collapsed I’ve wondered how a new owner would make a new Lebreton rink viable without any of the additional parcels.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Many years ago, when the City of Ottawa was contemplating granting the permission for a Casino to be built somewhere in Ottawa, and Sparks Street was one of the suggested locactions.

Well in typical Ottawa municipal government foot dragging, and a segment of councillors whined that residents of Ottawa would fall prey to, and become addicted to gambling and their children would go hungry….. Hull went ahead and built the Casino at Lac Lemay…. And since it was opened it has become the number tourist attraction in the National Capital Region, and all the tax revenues and benefits from the Casino have been pouring into the coffers in Hull and the province of Quebec…. And the majority of those revenues come from Ontario residents.

At the time, I thought the perfect location for a Casino, would have been on the City owned land when the Pineview Golf Course is located….. they could have used all or part of the Executive Course, of the two courses, and built a world class Casino and Hotel/Golf course complex….. and all the revenues that Hill and Quebec have enjoyed for decades, would have been flowing into Ottawa and Ontario.

Now, I’m not suggesting this location would be ideal for an NHL arena, but it does have the extra land that Developers bidding on the Sens would want, if they wanted more land that is being made available at Lebreton flats, for future commercial development. It is close to the 417 and the East - West LRT…… just saying.

Keep it in Kanata if going to Pineview golf.

Since the NCC moved to multiple parcels after RV Lebreton collapsed I’ve wondered how a new owner would make a new Lebreton rink viable without any of the additional parcels.

It’s believed some will/ or already are looking to expand the footprint with NCC.

 

[Golden_Jet]

GARRIOCH: Oshawa Generals' owner Rocco Tullio makes his own bid for Senators

Rocco Tullio has decided to go it alone in a bid to purchase the Ottawa Senators.

ottawasun.com

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

The Remington downtown Markham development might be the fastest build I’ve ever seen. It’s crazy how much gets built every couple months.

I'm not so sure that is a good thing. For longevity, I mean.

You can build it fast, or you can build it well. Pretty hard to do both at the same time.

 

[DueDiligence]

I hate the Remington group now - this project is about revilaitizing Ottawa not lining the pockets of some sketchy Toronto development group.

Andlauer all the way - Marc Bergevin will be our next GM and he’ll hire Joel Quenville and they’ll win at Lebreton

So you don't think Andlauer wants to develop Lebreton and make some money off it??? All bids are considering the real estate development aspect.
Also hiring Marc Bergevin is a really bad idea.