Slap
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Klefbom-Larsson is not a bad D. I don't see how guys who don't play together matter.
Sebastian Aho for the Hart Trophy?
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Didn't see it coming, but should have.
23 points in his first 41
26 in his next 41
33 in his next 41
38 in his next 41
45 in his next 41
15 in his last 13 (on pace for ~47 in 41)
23 points in his first 41
26 in his next 41
33 in his next 41
38 in his next 41
45 in his next 41
15 in his last 13 (on pace for ~47 in 41)
zar
Bleed Blue
Agreed.
Sorry, I wasn't implying that... but I could see how that might have come across though. I was simply pointing out that the reigning Art Ross guy doesn't have that much support. He does have one of either Draisaitl or RNH to play with but the other winger might as well be me and the offence from the back end is average at best.
Anyways, sorry to have derailed the thread... the only reason I brought up McDavid is the discussion around the Art Ross... and the fact 97 is the reigning AR trophy holder.
Carry on.
JoeThorntonsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Sorry man, I shouldn’t have brought them up. My point is that players generally need at least one full season of playing to a top-20 level before they can be called a top-20 player in the midst of their breakout season. Exceptions can be made for a guy like McDavid who was the clear best player in the NHL midway through the 2016-2017 season.
But Aho has been maybe one of the 20 best players this season. Then there are guys like Malkin and Erik Karlsson who haven’t been at that level this season, but who have earned a spot on that list based on past performances.
Aho should be one of the Hart finalists if Caroline is going to the playoffs for sure.
Aho was never supposed to be this good. Many had him as a worse version of Mikael Granlund. I think it's mostly because they started calling him Sea Bass. Which also happens to be a character from the Jim Carrey Movie "Dumb & Dumber". And that character happened to be played by an actual hockey hall of famer. Don't ask me how, but that talent probably rubbed off in some weird way. Don't know how else to explain a border line 2nd round pick making it this far...
Yes, he did score 65 last season. Now he already has 66 points. Probably will score around 90 this year. Trend is getting up and fast.
To OP. That "sidekick" Teuvo been pretty good lately. They put him to second line now I believe. Also Nino has been really good signing. Carolina seems like a playoff team now.
No, he shouldn’t ”for sure” be a Hart finalist. He would have an argument but that statement is ridiculous.
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Not only that, but McKenzie for instance didn't even have Sebastian Aho ranked in his final ranking for 2015(One of the reasons I don't take NHL scouts' opinion on Finnish players too seriously).
As for how good Aho is, in 2016 I said that Sebastian Aho will end up being quite close to Matthews. it doesn't look wrong, though they have rather different strengths and styles of play. At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if Aho ends up being better, to be honest.
Mildan
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Tells a lot about Aho what happened to Nino after trade. He simply just make players around him so much better. That's why I was suggesting Pulju to be snatched by Carolina. Not cause I trust him to turn his careers around but cause I trust Aho to do it for him. Aho is the smith and a carpenter and can use tools to their best.
Helistin
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Sebastian Aho is so good all the talent didn't fit into a one hockey player. That's why there's two Sebastian Aho's.
Yes...and not to the mention Crosby, whose grace period in the top 3 extends at least another seven years or so. Regardless of actual production compared to peers. He is just that good
If you think afterwards Aho was best player on that super line. Pulju and Laine were underagers and had superb tournament too. Rantanen was best player for Finland on last 2 crucial games.
Uncle Scrooge
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Nothing against the Hurricanes, but with the forward depth they've had this season 66 pts in 58 games and +20 is fantastic.
37 yr old Justin Williams is the teams 3rd best scorer. Aho has 14 more pts than Teravainen who is his most common linemate. The only forwards who have a solid +/- on the team are the ones who have played with him the most (TT/Ferland).
He plays 20 mins a game. By far the most on the team by forwards. Doesn't struggle on the dot like many young players do when playing C full-time for the first time. ES CF% almost 57 percent.
This all makes sense when you watch him. The guy is legit and i stand by what i said 2 years ago - he's going to win the Selke some day as a center.
37 yr old Justin Williams is the teams 3rd best scorer. Aho has 14 more pts than Teravainen who is his most common linemate. The only forwards who have a solid +/- on the team are the ones who have played with him the most (TT/Ferland).
He plays 20 mins a game. By far the most on the team by forwards. Doesn't struggle on the dot like many young players do when playing C full-time for the first time. ES CF% almost 57 percent.
This all makes sense when you watch him. The guy is legit and i stand by what i said 2 years ago - he's going to win the Selke some day as a center.
TheDawnOfANewTage
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So you just skipped all the other posts and ignore the situation both players are in, huh?
Obviously Kuch has more points. OP is wondering what Aho would be like were he given team/linemates like Kuch.
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Nithoniniel
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He's too good.
A lot of teams could have had Aho, most of them don't have a guy trending towards being a top 4 d-man instead.
Kaako Kappo
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Tampa players are so hard to evaluate because everyone gets insane point totals. The team is overflowing with talent. Point is a beast, that's for sure though... but the support he has compared to Aho... oh boy.
