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The Senior Bowl is like a candy shop of who we’d love to get.

I like McConkey a lot. But with no real X receivers on the team, the commitment to 12 personnel, and the focus on the ground game, he’s in the ‘neat to have’ bucket, not the ‘need’ bucket.

Non first round outside speed receivers I’d be looking at:

Brendan Rice
Jermaine Burton
Roman Wilson
 
A long time ago, a younger version of me went to the Senior Bowl with the Bills staff. It was a pretty amazing experience.

The Bills zeroed in on Ruben Brown that week and they knew then that if he were available, he would be the selection. Aside from Boselli, he was their top rated OL.

The scouts came away really impressed with Marlon Kerner. He won a lot of individual battles and also was really good in zone. He didn’t move up the Bills board, but when BPA hit his tier, he was an easy pick for John Butler.
 
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Der Jaeger said:
A long time ago, a younger version of me went to the Senior Bowl with the Bills staff. It was a pretty amazing experience.

The Bills zeroed in on Ruben Brown that week and they knew then that if he were available, he would be the selection. Aside from Boselli, he was their top rated OL.

The scouts came away really impressed with Marlon Kerner. He won a lot of individual battles and also was really good in zone. He didn’t move up the Bills board, but when BPA hit his tier, he was an easy pick for John Butler.
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If only you were distracted them enough from Kerner to get Freeman.

Todd Collins has a break out 2017 season with weapons of Antowaine Smith, Thurman, Reed, Early, Moulds, Freeman, Riemersma. Behind a solid line of Brown, Fina, Nails, et all.

Instead they beat Green Bay in the Super Bowl. The curse is broken, no draught.

You had this power and missed the chance.
 
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missingmika said:
If only you were distracted them enough from Kerner to get Freeman.

Todd Collins has a break out 2017 season with weapons of Antowaine Smith, Thurman, Reed, Early, Moulds, Freeman, Riemersma. Behind a solid line of Brown, Fina, Nails, et all.

Instead they beat Green Bay in the Super Bowl. The curse is broken, no draught.

You had this power and missed the chance.
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You seem to misjudge the amount of say I had in the organization.

It was along the lines of “which folder do you want this report filed in?” :laugh:
 
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missingmika said:
If only you were distracted them enough from Kerner to get Freeman.

Todd Collins has a break out 2017 season with weapons of Antowaine Smith, Thurman, Reed, Early, Moulds, Freeman, Riemersma. Behind a solid line of Brown, Fina, Nails, et all.

Instead they beat Green Bay in the Super Bowl. The curse is broken, no draught.

You had this power and missed the chance.
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2017 🤔 haha?

I was just thinking about Collins this morning for some reason. Probably the first time he's crossed my mind in years. If he had panned out with us the timeline would have been so different. I went to a game where he played the Colts in 96 or 97 and we came from behind and won. I was convinced he was going to be very good.
 
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2017 🤔 haha?

I was just thinking about Collins this morning for some reason. Probably the first time he's crossed my mind in years. If he had panned out with us the timeline would have been so different. I went to a game where he played the Colts in 96 or 97 and we came from behind and won. I was convinced he was going to be very good.
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After I was gone, I stayed in touch with a lot of the scouts. I can tell you the exact moment Todd Collins broke.

Remember the bomb Collins threw in 1997 against Broncos? The one Reed dropped?

That’s the exact moment. He had a hard time recovering from that. It’s hard to follow a guy like Jim Kelly. Reed didn’t help matters. After Kelly retired, he went into diva receiver mode.
 
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yep.

at least this time I will have some support when I lose my mind at the draft if he does it again. The last two years I had to hear all the same shit from the same people that can’t figure out why I was mad about Adams’s inaction two offseasons ago.

People always catch up eventually. Usually after spending their days attacking the people who were already there.
 
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yep.

at least this time I will have some support when I lose my mind at the draft if he does it again. The last two years I had to hear all the same shit from the same people that can’t figure out why I was mad about Adams’s inaction two offseasons ago.

People always catch up eventually. Usually after spending their days attacking the people who were already there.
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I’ll start looking in free agency for the next John Brown or Emmanuel Sanders.

Does that stay correlate to anything other than just deep completion percentage? Other than moving from Brown to Sanders to Davis, any other reasons? Like defensive changes Allen faces? Maybe forcing the Bills to be patient, like the Bills did with the Chiefs for a few years.


Because in a vacuum, my reaction is “who cares?”
 
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Ace said:


yep.

at least this time I will have some support when I lose my mind at the draft if he does it again. The last two years I had to hear all the same shit from the same people that can’t figure out why I was mad about Adams’s inaction two offseasons ago.

People always catch up eventually. Usually after spending their days attacking the people who were already there.
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I actually don't know if it's purely a receiver stat. Other factors too, like Josh having an injured throwing arm each of the last two years and teams playing so much 2-high against us.

Also they did use their top pick on a pass catcher and second pick on OL last year, so it's not like they went heavy defense like they have most years.

All that said, I agree they need more pass catchers. Assuming Gabe leaves, I hope they divide what he brings into two guys. A FA that can be the gritty blocker, Noah Brown my favorite choice. Then I hope they draft someone with deep speed, since an over the top option has been severely lacking since Brown got old/left.

I just don't want them to force it in the first if the value is way off. If the choice is the 10th best WR or the best Safety, I'm fine with the best safety and saving WR for day 2.
 
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I’ll start looking in free agency for the next John Brown or Emmanuel Sanders.

Does that stay correlate to anything other than just deep completion percentage? Because in a vacuum, my reaction is “who cares?”
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It's also been a league wide trend as teams adjusted to the 2020 Bills and Hill-era Chiefs. Teams are actively trying to take away those deep shots to a much greater extent than they were at the start of the decade.
 
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It's also been a league wide trend as teams adjusted to the 2020 Bills and Hill-era Chiefs. Teams are actively trying to take away those deep shots to a much greater extent than they were at the start of the decade.
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Bengals too. They had to go through a transformation from what they first were when they plugged in Chase.

But I still think it's a noteworthy concern that when they're taking those shots they're not connections. Some games the last couple years we've seen defenses make things very hard by playing press man, cramping the LOS, and daring Allen to beat them over the top. Have to have that fastball to punish teams when they do that. Doesn't mean they need to draft a WR in round 1 to get the fastball back. But they need to get it back.
 
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