Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[Jim Bob]

I always thought of it more like Cheerios

It depends on the day. They make both Cheerios and Lucky Charms at that General Mills factory.

 

[Der Jaeger]

I've wrote this a couple times and I'll write it again: Shakir's draft year scouting report reads like Diggs' draft year scouting report. I don't think he's a slot receiver. I think he's a multi-use receiver like Diggs, and given more opportunity, you'll see more Diggs-type play.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I've wrote this a couple times and I'll write it again: Shakir's draft year scouting report reads like Diggs' draft year scouting report. I don't think he's a slot receiver. I think he's a multi-use receiver like Diggs, and given more opportunity, you'll see more Diggs-type play.

I agree, and his YAC ability is I think best on the team already

 

[Dubi Doo]

I agree, and his YAC ability is I think best on the team already

Yeah. Shakir, Diggs, and Kincaid sounds like a pretty good trio going into next season. We'll need a bit of depth and a unique skillset to add, but I like that trio for the next year or two until Diggs slows down.

I'm a big fan of Shakir. I think he can be a good #2 WR in this league.

 

[Jim Bob]

Yeah. Shakir, Diggs, and Kincaid sounds like a pretty good trio going into next season. We'll need a bit of depth and a unique skillset to add, but I like that trio for the next year or two until Diggs slows down.

I'm a big fan of Shakir. I think he can be a good #2 WR in this league.

I'm a big fan of Shakir in the slot WR role that is top 3 in targets with Diggs and Kincaid. But, I don't know that he can be a good boundary WR.

I think they do need to invest in the boundary WR position as a replacement for Davis and and upgrade on Sherfield.

 

[TageGod]

The internet hates Josh Allen and the Bills. It was inevitable, but it still kinda sucks. And Steelers fans being such incredible pissbabies is a real eye opener.

No one HATES Josh. Just envious or attempting to push narratives. The man is like a golden retriever. Not surprised about Steelers fans.

 

[missingmika]

Got a punter:

 

[Jim Bob]

Got a punter:

I can't wait for the Araiza fans to get upset.

But, they won't trust a guy with 0 NFL regular season or postseason punts and only 1 preseason punt on his resume when we are in the playoffs.

 

[Tsujimoto]

I can't wait for the Araiza fans to get upset.

But, they won't trust a guy with 0 NFL regular season or postseason punts and only 1 preseason punt on his resume when we are in the playoffs.

Who also was not a holder for kicks in college.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Only allowed 2 elevations, so hopefully the other injuries are looking up

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[kirby11]

Hoping Haack only makes appearances to hold on Sunday if he ends up stepping in for Martin. I've never seen anyone else take as long as he does to only boot it 40-45 yards max every time

 

[tsujimoto74]

I can't wait for the Araiza fans to get upset.

But, they won't trust a guy with 0 NFL regular season or postseason punts and only 1 preseason punt on his resume when we are in the playoffs.

I don’t think it’s even about the punts. Haack was an excellent holder for us on FGs/PATs. I don’t think Araiza even did that in college. The team needs to set Bass up for success when they’re relying on him for points a lot more than it needs a strong-legged punter.

 

[K8fool]

I'd love to see his crew's tendencies home vs away. Plenty of NFL refs really lean into home cooking.

And if the Bills get some homer calls, we might get to see Mahomes have a melt down ala Pickens on Monday.

Update:

Hochuli's crew has been above average in home cooking this season with below average penalty% against the home team and an above average home team winning%.

Shawn Hochuli NFL Official Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Shawn Hochuli NFL Official Statistics

www.pro-football-reference.com

Good catch. Keep reposting

 

[tsujimoto74]

I'd love to see his crew's tendencies home vs away. Plenty of NFL refs really lean into home cooking.

And if the Bills get some homer calls, we might get to see Mahomes have a melt down ala Pickens on Monday.

Update:

Hochuli's crew has been above average in home cooking this season with below average penalty% against the home team and an above average home team winning%.

Shawn Hochuli NFL Official Statistics | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Shawn Hochuli NFL Official Statistics

www.pro-football-reference.com

Isn’t KC something like 11-2 in games he refs? With the Bills holding an almost inversely bad record? I’m not feeling good about the ref draw for this one.

Edit: I double checked the stats. KC is 8-2 with this guy, and the Bills are 1-3. Pretty sure we won’t be getting any home cooking. This very well may be a game where we have to beat both our opponent and the refs.

 

[Jim Bob]

Isn’t KC something like 11-2 in games he refs? With the Bills holding an almost inversely bad record? I’m not feeling good about the ref draw for this one.

KC is 2-0 with Hochuli this season (1 home & 1 away) and the Bills are 0-1 (@ PHI).

In 16 games that Hochuli has ref'd this season, the road team has had more calls against them in 9 games, the home team has had more calls against in 6 games, and 1 game was a tie.

And the home team is 10-6 in those 16 games.

The bigger issue on Sunday will be the turnover battle.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I've wrote this a couple times and I'll write it again: Shakir's draft year scouting report reads like Diggs' draft year scouting report. I don't think he's a slot receiver. I think he's a multi-use receiver like Diggs, and given more opportunity, you'll see more Diggs-type play.

Good scouting!

He reminds me more of a Zay Flowers clone (that's good). I'm not sure what type of upside is there, but at present rate that would just be a added bonus.

Did you guys hear Josh say teams are now Game planning for Shakir ?

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[KeyserSoze81]

Got a punter:

Very cool. At least he has some experience in Buffalo conditions and with our suddenly broken kicker, even if his performance was not ideal as a Bill (42.9/yd avg)

 

[brian_griffin]

KC is 2-0 with Hochuli this season (1 home & 1 away) and the Bills are 0-1 (@ PHI).

In 16 games that Hochuli has ref'd this season, the road team has had more calls against them in 9 games, the home team has had more calls against in 6 games, and 1 game was a tie.

And the home team is 10-6 in those 16 games.

The bigger issue on Sunday will be the turnover battle.

While I understand and agree with your concern re: officiating, home vs. road "bias" can't be discerned from which team had more calls and which team had fewer. To be meaningful, we'd actually need to know what calls were made erroneously and what calls were not made that were so blatant they arguably should have been called (i.e., calls that each of the other ~15 officiating crews would have made without hesitation).

I agree with your hierarchy of factors.

1. Turnovers
2. Turnovers for, (i.e., takeaways)
3. Injuries (Bills can't survive the same number of injuries vs. KC as they did vs. PIT)
4. Weather (related: the ball will be a rock)
5. Special teams (related: the ball will be a rock)

the x-factor: (i.e., could range as high as #1, could be #6 or even lower):
How the Bills scheme Kelce. I will start punching people in the crowd if the Bills play another game giving him 5+ yard unimpeded from the line of scrimmage without a chuck / bump / karate chop / judo kick / shiv / three stooges eye poke / bludgeon with a medieval mace at the line immediately when the ball is snapped.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Waterfowlist]

That’s very unlike McDermott to say there is hope. Usually if it is just gamesmanship he will say “we will see how the week shakes out” and then they are inactive. This seems like there is a real shot he is back.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[buffa dud]

KC is 2-0 with Hochuli this season (1 home & 1 away) and the Bills are 0-1 (@ PHI).

In 16 games that Hochuli has ref'd this season, the road team has had more calls against them in 9 games, the home team has had more calls against in 6 games, and 1 game was a tie.

And the home team is 10-6 in those 16 games.

The bigger issue on Sunday will be the turnover battle.

That Philadelphia game was every bit as offensive to me as the Detroit debacle, and it pisses me off that anyone on that crew is still officiating at this point in the season. As a group, they flat out ****ing sucked.