Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[Zman5778]

Imagine what theyd be with competent head coaching or even defensive coordinator in the final minutes of games

This goes both ways. I don't think we'd even be in position to have our defense choke without McDermott. He's done a remarkable coaching job to keep our defense playing at the level they're at, given what we're missing AND our safety duo aging out......I shudder to think what we'd be with a lesser coach/DC at the helm.

 

[Dubi Doo]

It is lunacy.

He's our only hope now. He's been on fire the past two games. If we want any chance at the playoffs, we need god mode Allen showing up more often than not. The margin of error is too thin now, and the schedule is a gauntlet.

 

[Zman5778]

Of course they're probaly harping on the pick he threw in shit conditions and most likely crappy visibility. I despise the incompetent media. Especially ESPN. Josh was a force yesterday. If anything these morons should be blaming our second half D . Most notably the way McD called the last 2 minute D and the last drive in OT. But but turnover! f*** off.

And even Romo kind of gave Josh a pass on the INT. He stressed that Bradberry is a wild card in that defensive call. Sometimes he sticks to the corner and sometimes he drifts off the corner, covers the slant and passes the WR off to the safety.

Had Bradberry stuck to the corner, that's an easy pitch-and-catch to Diggs. And IIRC, that play was designed to get the ball out quick. Philly's DC/Bradberry made the right call at the right time. It happens sometimes.

I've got zero issue with that INT.

 

[zenthusiast]

They can’t keep wasting the boy

 

[Zman5778]

He's our only hope now. He's been on fire the past two games. If we want any chance at the playoffs, we need god mode Allen showing up more often than not. The margin of error is too thin now, and the schedule is a gauntlet.

I'm not sure even God Mode Josh is enough. Remember that playoff game against NE where Josh was more than "Just a God"? That's what we need.

 

[SwordsgoneWild]

What's been lost in everything is that Brady has called 2 great games in a row against 2 good D's . Outside of a few calls. Granted the Eagles pass D is lacking and they're a bit dinged up but still impressive in those conditions .. Josh has flourished . Too bad we wasted it yesterday. So depressing.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Is Reich any good? He seems to have never had elite QB play aside from Luck’s final season. Also it’s a very Pegula hire.

I really liked him in Philly and early Indy. But the last few years his offenses have been very old school traditional dropback. Makes me wonder if Pederson/Siriani were the secret sauce and he just never had a very innovative mind. He just took a competetive team, was given a blank check, and turned them into one of the worst in football. As much as it sounds like a Pegula hire, I'd be disgusted if they fired McDermott for him.

I'm not on the train to fire McDermott unless the team is bringing in a head coach who already has experience. The Bills don't need to cycle through coaches who are learning how to be head coaches. That's why I'm not really for firing McDermott, because it's going to waste 2-3 years of Allen while the HC figures things out.

I'm way more into bringing former HCs and coordinators onto the team staff. That's why I think the Commander's situation is so interesting, because you can bring in a former HC as the DC. And Bienemy is HC ready as an OC, so he'd be a great hire.

I like Reich for a couple reasons. He's played or coached in all 4 major offensive systems:
- Sight adjustment as a player in Buffalo
- Vertical timing during his first time in Indianapolis
- E-P with the Chargers and Cardinals
- West Coast with the Eagles, second time with the Colts, and with the Panthers.

He's coached experienced QBs (Manning, Rivers, Ryan, Luck). Allen is experienced and could use a steady hand at the controls.

So a Reich addition brings a guy who can scheme just about anything, and knows how to work with veteran QBs.

I'm really behind the idea of bringing in guys like Reich and Rivera for two reasons. Having two former HCs on the staff stabilizes things and can offer some help to McDermott. Having a guy like Reich on the radio telling McDermott to give Allen a shot carries a lot more weight than Brady. Having Rivera on the sidelines to help McDermott with advice could be a godsend.

And, in the event McDermott can't change, you've got your next head coach on the staff.

If Beane fires McDermott, I don't see anyone ready to take over who's had a ton of success. Unless Beane is willing to partner with Belichick, provided he walks away from New England and wants to prove he can win a Super Bowl without Brady.

 

[TageGod]

Imagine what theyd be with competent head coaching or even defensive coordinator in the final minutes of games

Hell..his indecision on Dorsey alone cost them multiple games. They had their state run media people on one bills live mocking the suggestion of firing Dorsey because it wouldn’t work and offenses don’t turn around in season.

Then what happened?

If he had fired Dorsey when most of the world said to they’d be better off too.

What has McDermott actually done to help this team since 13 seconds?

Idk, by all account the defense has been great this season outside of some key drives. When it comes down to it, Dodson Benford etc aren't making key plays. 2nd and third string players probably are not holding down top teams at the end. This game is a W if Milano is healthy alone.

Special teams are the real problem. That and off coverage cornerbacks playing behind the first down markers.

 

[Selanne00008]

And Mahomes' interception that took 6 off the board wasn't? Or Kece's fumble that lost the Chiefs a guaranteed 3? It's a lazy narrative, and I cannot stand it.

Didn't mention anything about the Chiefs, nor do I care how they are doing.

 

[Ace]

The Bills are 9-3 this year if the games ended when Allen last touched the ball.

They’re 6-6 because they don’t. And they’re a run call from the Giants away from 5-7.

McDermott is the reason. And he has to be fired as soon as possible. Just wasting Allen’s prime.

 

[zenthusiast]

The Bills are 9-3 this year if the games ended when Allen last touched the ball.

They’re 6-6 because they don’t. And they’re a run call from the Giants away from 5-7.

McDermott is the reason. And he has to be fired as soon as possible. Just wasting Allen’s prime.

Just be happy to make it to the divisional round and you’ll find your zen

 

[Zman5778]

Just be happy to make it to the divisional round and you’ll find your zen

It's proven time and time and time again -- just get into the playoffs and hope you get hot enough to make a run.

 

[zenthusiast]

It's proven time and time and time again -- just get into the playoffs and hope you get hot enough to make a run.

Conversely, the NFL graveyard is littered with coaches and GMs of teams who were good enough to pass the threshold every year but never amounted to anything. For every Joe Flacco Ravens there are a handful of Dalton Bengals, Rivers Chargers, etc

 

[zenthusiast]

It's proven time and time and time again -- just get into the playoffs and hope you get hot enough to make a run.

It is a bummer though. I think you’re generally right that Allen could catch fire and solo some teams, which is why missing is so inexcusable

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

I'm not on the train to fire McDermott unless the team is bringing in a head coach who already has experience. The Bills don't need to cycle through coaches who are learning how to be head coaches. That's why I'm not really for firing McDermott, because it's going to waste 2-3 years of Allen while the HC figures things out.

We’ve already been wasting years of Allen with McDermott. I understand the grass isn’t always greener, but every successful coach was a first timer at one point, and many have success right away.

 

[Ace]

2 out of 3 for McCoward!

This one is the most special though. Because his choice to keep Dorsey as long as he did gave him double responsibility

 

[HOOats]

Can't remember a game result with so much variance heaped on it, on the season on the future, everything. The game was playoff, if not Super Bowl, quality and we went punch for punch while dominating long stretches (the defense in the first half was as good as any phase in any game this year).

If we won, we're 7-5 going into the bye having just beat down a title favorite in their house. We are back in the discussion for winning it all and headed to KC where we can probably become the favorite in the AFC with a win. Josh is firmly in the MVP race and the fanbase is back all-in.

Instead we lose and it's a doomer's paradise. Playoff chances all but gone. Talk of firing one of the most successful coaches in modern NFL history, tearing down the roster, even firing the GM. And for the record, I'm not a fan of McD's in-game stuff. The FG timeout in particular was stupefying. But I think that his behind the scenes coaching/leadership balances that out and then some in most cases. We wouldn't be a top two team in the league over five years otherwise. Hard to find a coach that is great at everything, but I'm all ears.

I've just never seen a game where we a win has us top 5 Super Bowl odds, and a loss has us a complete disaster crashing out of the playoffs. I understand that it feels this way because we blew our chance to have a few more wins to buffer a loss like this. But still, that felt like a playoff epic and a playoff loss.

Still can't believe Josh and Gabe couldn't connect on that GW TD. I totally got fooled with the ball in the air and started celebrating. Gave no thought to the chance that they could have been five yards off on the route. About as shitty as it gets.

 

[zenthusiast]

I thought I was over it but I’m mad again

 

[Ace]

I’m most concerned about spending more assets to rebuild his defense and then the inevitable happening leaving us with scheme misfits. Many guys are aging out on D. Timing is right to move on after this year.

But the only way I see it happening is if Allen walks into Beane’s office and says it’s him or me.

 

[buffalowing88]

The Ringer published a piece today discussing how the Bills have a young core that could speed up any rebuild, should they bite the bullet and pursue it starting right now. Lot of dead weight that may be a painful short-term loss financially if we cut or trade them but could open up spots for a new window that would align with a new HC starting in 2024/2025.

 

[Der Jaeger]

We’ve already been wasting years of Allen with McDermott. I understand the grass isn’t always greener, but every successful coach was a first timer at one point, and many have success right away.

For every Andy Reid, there's dozens of first time head coaches who don't make it to a second contract.

 

[SabresFan26]

Can't imagine who would want to go to Carolina.

Brutal. Tepper might be one of the worst owners.

He just fired a head coach after 11 games.

Don't think I want Reich either over McDermott but I do want McDermott gone. I just don't like his philosophy for winning football and I think he'd be a losing coach Dick Jauronesque if he had JP Losman or Trent Edwards.

 

[Zman5778]

Still can't believe Josh and Gabe couldn't connect on that GW TD. I totally got fooled with the ball in the air and started celebrating. Gave no thought to the chance that they could have been five yards off on the route. About as shitty as it gets.

You and me both. I jumped off my couch with my arms in the air. I thought FOR SURE that was a TD. And then the ball wasn't even close.....and I knew what was coming next.

 

[Zman5778]

Can't imagine who would want to go to Carolina.

Brutal. Tepper might be one of the worst owners.

He just fired a head coach after 11 games.

What's worse in this particular situation is that Tepper fired his hand-picked coach after forcing Tepper's own hand-picked #1 pick QB on said coach......knowing that Reich (and some of Carolina's scouts) wanted Stroud over Young.

 

[zenthusiast]

You and me both. I jumped off my couch with my arms in the air. I thought FOR SURE that was a TD. And then the ball wasn't even close.....and I knew what was coming next.

I feel like there’s now one play a week where Gabe and Allen have very different ideas about where he should be