Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

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Defend the flight of the tying field goal, Defend the aj brown fumble. ( yes clear control . A step and football move bringing ball down w control , game over)

The bills clearly failed to win it again and again and lost.
 




Losses by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2 & 3 for an average margin of defeat of 4.3 points. The how and why are what matters most however it is heartbreaking and demoralizing as a fan. Can they go back to losing by two touchdowns each week when life was much simpler.
 
McD is to blame for zombie defens ??? Really. How easily yall turn on our guys w unexplainable circumstances , like rasul Douglas's sudden Stopping or entire side moving in quicksand after playing perfect except 4 min and 14 bs philly points. Sorry philly sucked most of the night but when we went zombie mode they feasted and won . Josh willed them back w great drive then zombie, kite field goal more bs that should be expected by Bills fans. Sorry we don't suck. But it appears that way at strange time. Wake up





Losses by 6, 5, 4, 6, 2 & 3 for an average margin of defeat of 4.3 points. The how and why are what matters most however it is heartbreaking and demoralizing as a fan. Can they go back to losing by two touchdowns each week when life was much simpler.

These are honorable men reacting to a theft and idiots.
 
Definitely starting to worry about Von Miller. Injuries + Time may be catching up to him. Maybe the week off helps and he gets his step back, but it feels like his days of providing any value may be behind him. Sucks too...
 
Definitely starting to worry about Von Miller. Injuries + Time may be catching up to him. Maybe the week off helps and he gets his step back, but it feels like his days of providing any value may be behind him. Sucks too...

I just see him quietly retiring at the end of the season. He knows he's cooked. He can't power rush the tackles like he used to. I don't think an off season of conditioning will get him anywhere close to his Denver form.

If he sticks it out one more year. It's for the paycheck.
 
Can we please stop mentioning Harbaugh, some of you are showing you know f***-all about football, he's a terrible coach, and a dinosaur to boot.

The problem with firing McDermott is he's way above average when it comes to aggressiveness. Every single NFL coach has his asshole shrink up when games get tight pretty much except Pederson (and yes, that even includes Andy Reid). There's been 30 Ben Johnsons or Bobby Slowiks that have cropped up over the past 10 years, and 90% of them turned out to be significantly worse than McDermott. Significantly... I'm disgusted with how the game went, but McD's chicken shit coaching decisions weren't the biggest problems tonight.

For me it's his defense.

Overall this season it was the offense that let the team down, so it was nice seeing the offense do what it needed to do tonight, for the most part anyway. But McDermott needs to figure out why the f*** his defense melts down in seemingly every big game and in big moments. Feels like the playoff game against the Ravens was the last time the defense came up big when the team needed it the most. Since then they just melt in big moments. I know a lot of it is personnel related - injuries + aging players, but he's gotta figure it out. Guys like Spagnola and Anarumo are the opposite, they look ordinary for long stretches, but then their units play biggest in big games.
 
Can we please stop mentioning Harbaugh, some of you are showing you know f***-all about football, he's a terrible coach, and a dinosaur to boot.

The problem with firing McDermott is he's way above average when it comes to aggressiveness. Every single NFL coach has his asshole shrink up when games get tight pretty much except Pederson (and yes, that even includes Andy Reid). There's been 30 Ben Johnsons or Bobby Slowiks that have cropped up over the past 10 years, and 90% of them turned out to be significantly worse than McDermott. Significantly... I'm disgusted with how the game went, but McD's chicken shit coaching decisions weren't the biggest problems tonight.

For me it's his defense.

Overall this season it was the offense that let the team down, so it was nice seeing the offense do what it needed to do tonight, for the most part anyway. But McDermott needs to figure out why the f*** his defense melts down in seemingly every big game and in big moments. Feels like the playoff game against the Ravens was the last time the defense came up big when the team needed it the most. Since then they just melt in big moments. I know a lot of it is personnel related - injuries + aging players, but he's gotta figure it out. Guys like Spagnola and Anarumo are the opposite, they look ordinary for long stretches, but then their units play biggest in big games.
I imagine part of it is that the McDermott defense is very straightforward and stagnant. It's not something that's going to change drastically week to week and gameplan to gameplan. There's a lot of virtues to that. But the downside is that when the opposing team has a chance to really drill down and game plan against you, it's easier to find cracks. Guys like Spans and Anarumo are much more into devising specialized game plans, not adhering to a specific scheme, and fitting to the players they have and matchups they face. There's downsides to that too. But the upside is that it's much less predictable and harder to gameplan against.
 
Maybe appreciate that being .500 12 games in with an extremely tough first place schedule feels like a disaster.

Quite something to call 37-12 over the past 3 seasons "constant misery", regardless of how the playoffs turned out. I've gotten a lot of joy over the last 4-5 seasons of football.

Frankly even in the Bills state (where we're starving for a championship) I'd rather be competitive and in the playoffs more often than not than win a championship 1 year and then be awful for years at a time. Not that Buffalo's lucky enough to go on a fluky run like that anyway.

Ask Toronto fans what they prefer. The Kawhi Leonard 2019 1 and done for the Raptors or the Leafs 7 years of 1st round exits.

I'd take the championship followed by a rebuild over what the Leafs have been doing. And I expect most people around here will take the Raptors
 
I understand where the fire McDermott comes from, and I wouldn't be against it as I had been previously.

But if Pegula is heavily involved in hiring a replacement then I have no faith in a decent replacement...
 
I understand where the fire McDermott comes from, and I wouldn't be against it as I had been previously.

But if Pegula is heavily involved in hiring a replacement then I have no faith in a decent replacement...

He can be involved but it should be up to McB to pick the coach in the end.

But then again it depends on what "heavily involved" would mean in this particular case.
 
Same tre whit time table. Next year. He shouldn't be playing until he has no fear of brace. Not a knock on Von. Just truth
Definitely starting to worry about Von Miller. Injuries + Time may be catching up to him. Maybe the week off helps and he gets his step back, but it feels like his days of providing any value may be behind him. Sucks too...

Same tre whit time table. Next year. He shouldn't be playing until he has no fear of brace. Not a knock on Von. Just truth
He's been a non factor thus far. Not worth giving him meaningful snaps in place of Floyd, Epenesa, Rousseau, or even Lawson. Not even close to being the pre-injury impactful Von Miller.
 
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Off coverage corners playing too far back are directly responsible for every failed defensive effort on game losing/tying drives since McDermott has been here. Also Milano's replacements are not good.
 
That last play on offense wasn't really a miscommunication between Davis and Allen. Davis, knowing Allen is under pressure, needs to turn his head around.
I remember Sanders running that route against the Chiefs two years ago and Allen throwing tha exact same pass and scoring. It does appear to the untrained eye that Davis ran the wrong route.


Also, it's pretty sad Buffalo loses games when Allen is playing out of his mind. The refs were especially bad. To the point it had a major impact on the game.

Ill word it like this- the refs kept Philly in the game in the first half, and Buffalo lost themselves the game (Cook drop, Gabe not turning his head, the defense wewring down, etc...).

But damn is it hard watching a sport knowing the refs had a big hand in your team losing. I havent felt that disgusted with the refs since the Tampa game two years ago.
 
More from yesterday.

According to analytics, we had a 56.6% chance of winning after the kickoff with 20 seconds left and a time out. We did it against the Lions last year!

We kneel to make it effectively a 50/50 if we win the coin toss. If we lose the toss, we don't even see the ball.

The chances of success are higher for Josh Allen who's having one of his best games to get a chance with the ball in his hands. Even if a low chance happens and we turn it over, great we still lost anyways.

We have had three different games where we were winning with under 2 minutes and still lost THIS YEAR. It is the McDermott Defense and McDermott identity.

How many times to we have to lose big games that we should've won until something changes?

Einstein - Insanity quote but its the same thing over and over again getting us the same result.

Sean hasn't adapted or changed.
 
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More from yesterday.

According to analytics, we had a 56.6% chance of winning after the kickoff with 20 seconds left and a time out. We did it against the Lions last year!

We kneel to make it effectively a 50/50 if we win the coin toss. If we lose the toss, we don't even see the ball.

The chances of success are higher for Josh Allen who's having one of his best games to get a chance with the ball in his hands. Even if a low chance happens and we turn it over, great we still lost anyways.

We have had three different games where we were winning with under 2 minutes and still lost THIS YEAR. It is the McDermott Defense and McDermott identity.

How many times to we have to lose big games that we should've won until something changes?

Einstein - Insanity quote but its the same thing over and over again getting us the same result.

Sean hasn't adapted or changed.
Shouldn't have burned a timeout before Elliott kicked the FG. That would have given the Bills 20 seconds and two chances to stop the clock with the middle of the field open. Even with one timeout, the kneel down to go to OT is playing scared. Weak!
 
There's no way that Sean gets fired until at least the end of the season (I still don't think that happens unless Josh Allen gets verbal to Beane/Ownership) - although I'm sure the locker room is losing faith in him.

But, crazy idea, if Joe Brady keeps doing a great job down the stretch, do we look at promoting him? We found a guy from the Sean Payton tree who is getting the best Josh Allen (albeit 2 games), consistency for the offense moving forward. A lot easier to find a good DC than OC.

If not, guys we need to look at potentially interviewing:

Ben Johnson - Lions OC
Frank Smith - Dolphins OC
Press Taylor - Jaguars OC
Brian Callahan - Bengals OC
Todd Monken - Ravens OC
 
I remember Sanders running that route against the Chiefs two years ago and Allen throwing tha exact same pass and scoring. It does appear to the untrained eye that Davis ran the wrong route.


Also, it's pretty sad Buffalo loses games when Allen is playing out of his mind. The refs were especially bad. To the point it had a major impact on the game.

Ill word it like this- the refs kept Philly in the game in the first half, and Buffalo lost themselves the game (Cook drop, Gabe not turning his head, the defense wewring down, etc...).

But damn is it hard watching a sport knowing the refs had a big hand in your team losing. I havent felt that disgusted with the refs since the Tampa game two years ago.

Usually if a game pisses me off, I’m over it by the next day, but the reffing in this one is going to stick with me. This game is going to show up in a 30 for 30 about legalized sports gambling in 10 years.
 
I imagine part of it is that the McDermott defense is very straightforward and stagnant. It's not something that's going to change drastically week to week and gameplan to gameplan. There's a lot of virtues to that. But the downside is that when the opposing team has a chance to really drill down and game plan against you, it's easier to find cracks. Guys like Spans and Anarumo are much more into devising specialized game plans, not adhering to a specific scheme, and fitting to the players they have and matchups they face. There's downsides to that too. But the upside is that it's much less predictable and harder to gameplan against.

Yeah, agreed. I'll also add that playing good system D is much easier to do when you have elite talent, the Jets are very similar in that regard.

Not making excuses, but the defense melting in big moments also has a lot to do with injuries and aging of the back 7:
  • Tre White injuries
  • Levi Wallace/Dane Jackson being meh
  • Elam not panning out so far
  • Hyde/Poyer aging out
  • Johnson starting to age
  • Milano injury
Hyde and Poyer have been terrific schematically for a long, long time. But this year they are both a step slow and also not making plays on the ball when the opportunities are there. I can't speak for everyone, but personally I was hoping to get one more above average year from them.
 
Yeah, agreed. I'll also add that playing good system D is much easier to do when you have elite talent, the Jets are very similar in that regard.

Not making excuses, but the defense melting in big moments also has a lot to do with injuries and aging of the back 7:
  • Tre White injuries
  • Levi Wallace/Dane Jackson being meh
  • Elam not panning out so far
  • Hyde/Poyer aging out
  • Johnson starting to age
  • Milano injury
Hyde and Poyer have been terrific schematically for a long, long time. But this year they are both a step slow and also not making plays on the ball when the opportunities are there. I can't speak for everyone, but personally I was hoping to get one more above average year from them.
Yep this is all true. And it doesn't help that we've generally truck out at bringing in true impact, game defining players. Milano has been that at peak times, but he's hurt. Oliver is finally becoming it thank goodness. But otherwise, our attempts to find high end impact players have generally struck out for one reason or another. Even the "hits" are more often good sturdy players than true game wreckers.
 
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