Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[ValJamesDuex]

Frank Reich Car fired

 

[Bendium]

Ok. Obviously, Sean McDermott has never been the best game day coach. He is better now than his first few years, but still gets outcoached in these tight games against good teams. They have gotten him assistants to feed him the best options, but he still defaults to old school conservativism when the pressure is on.

Now, lets get real about a McDermott firing happening. No chance. Look at his record here overall. He may not be the best gameday coach, but the rest of it he brings in spades. He has absolutely been the driving force behind a complete change in the whole Bills organization from a losing culture to a winning culture. He did that as a rookie coach. He has made WAY more good decision than bad. The Bills are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I remember watching an interview with the Pittsburg owner about how they have managed to go three straight coach's with near lifetime tenure. He said they simply find the smartest person they can that fits the ownership and organizational mentality, and then they support him with everything they have, no matter what, and live through letting them learn and make mistakes.

I believe Terry will do exactly that with Bean and McDermott. They are here to stay and will be backed 100% for a long time to come. They may make mistakes and have some failures here and there, but as long as they are learning, they will be supported.

The offense was sputtering, and McDermott addressed it. Dorsey was a mistake, because they gave in to what Josh wanted instead of hiring another top experienced offensive coordinator. McD is not an offensive guru, so he should not be hiring inexperienced offensive coordinators. He learned, and should not do it again.

Take a step back. Look at where we are at vs 6 years ago. McD has miles of rope here. Personally, I think he will continue to grow and improve. Next year is going to be a retool/cap hit year. They will go back to having a defensive coordinator. They will either stay with Joe Brady, if he shows he can handle it, or get a seasoned O-coordinator. Then another run at it.

 

[Husko]

Frank Reich Car fired

Probably who Pegula will hire if he fires McDermott

 

[K8fool]

He's been a non factor thus far. Not worth giving him meaningful snaps in place of Floyd, Epenesa, Rousseau, or even Lawson. Not even close to being the pre-injury impactful Von Miller.

I agree. Seven snaps a game only on four rushers to watch progress, if any. If not inactive til he can heal.

 

[Mike McDermott]

 

[joshjull]

It is lunacy.

 

[K8fool]

How do you fire anyone when statistically we've been one of the best teams in the league all year. The only "stats" we are deficient. Yards and first downs, points lost by penalty and our " record " Amazing. Proof. Sports is dead , not from zebras but the statistical unlikeliness of our losses. A supernatural curse ? No. A room of chokers that now suck? No a coaching staff internally sabotaging the team by giving away plays at key times

 

[K8fool]

I imagine part of it is that the McDermott defense is very straightforward and stagnant. It's not something that's going to change drastically week to week and gameplan to gameplan. There's a lot of virtues to that. But the downside is that when the opposing team has a chance to really drill down and game plan against you, it's easier to find cracks. Guys like Spans and Anarumo are much more into devising specialized game plans, not adhering to a specific scheme, and fitting to the players they have and matchups they face. There's downsides to that too. But the upside is that it's much less predictable and harder to gameplan against.

Aside from 5 zombie plays. McD dominated philly. Add the chuck and duck td 6 plays. We looked like the worst d on the planets realm fishbowl . The rest he dominated put his guys into winning positions and beat down supposedly one of best nfl teams. Out side help telephony fooking w outcomes. After we dominated philly aside from weird drop reads and rasul Douglas's acting dosed watching a guy w thr ball run by him and wave . Douglas played great otherwise poyer and mcd were amazing last night

 

[Bendium]

Yep this is all true. And it doesn't help that we've generally truck out at bringing in true impact, game defining players. Milano has been that at peak times, but he's hurt. Oliver is finally becoming it thank goodness. But otherwise, our attempts to find high end impact players have generally struck out for one reason or another. Even the "hits" are more often good sturdy players than true game wreckers.

This goes back to needing to remind people that this is Beane's first job as a NHL GM. Like McDermott, he will have to learn thru making mistakes and then adjust. Beane has done a solid, but not spaktacular job at drafting so far. Lots of high and mid level draft picks that have underperformed. Room for growth there. Free agents have been solid, though I thought the Miller signing was a huge mistake given the rotation we use and his age. That money could have bought ALOT more across the roster. I doubt he does it again. His cap management has been pretty good.

There is too much good here with a youngish but talented GM to not stick with it through the growth phases for quite some time.

Probably who Pegula will hire if he fires McDermott

If Frank Riech is hired in here, it will be as an offensive coordinator.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Is Reich any good? He seems to have never had elite QB play aside from Luck’s final season. Also it’s a very Pegula hire.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Is Reich any good? He seems to have never had elite QB play aside from Luck’s final season. Also it’s a very Pegula hire.

Another boy scout so could be. Do you remember the Indy playoff game here they should of won? I think thats sums up his head coaching. As for Carolina, they drafted the QB he did not want.

All these guys fall in the Marvin Lewis category imo. McD built a culture, but is not a great head coach and the pattern is now clear.

 

[Husko]

Aside from 5 zombie plays. McD dominated philly. Add the chuck and duck td 6 plays. We looked like the worst d on the planets realm fishbowl . The rest he dominated put his guys into winning positions and beat down supposedly one of best nfl teams. Out side help telephony fooking w outcomes. After we dominated philly aside from weird drop reads and rasul Douglas's acting dosed watching a guy w thr ball run by him and wave . Douglas played great otherwise poyer and mcd were amazing last night

Second half and OT drive outcomes:
-Punt
-Touchdown
-Touchdown
-Touchdown
-Punt
-Field goal
-Touchdown

The defense dominated Philly for a half. They got dominated in the second half and OT.

 

[zenthusiast]

It’s very funny that they fired Reich after forcing the wrong qb on him

 

[Mike McDermott]

Is Reich any good? He seems to have never had elite QB play aside from Luck’s final season. Also it’s a very Pegula hire.

Overall he has a losing record. A few good seasons and a few absolute garbage seasons as a head coach.

 

[K8fool]

Ok. Obviously, Sean McDermott has never been the best game day coach. He is better now than his first few years, but still gets outcoached in these tight games against good teams. They have gotten him assistants to feed him the best options, but he still defaults to old school conservativism when the pressure is on.

Now, lets get real about a McDermott firing happening. No chance. Look at his record here overall. He may not be the best gameday coach, but the rest of it he brings in spades. He has absolutely been the driving force behind a complete change in the whole Bills organization from a losing culture to a winning culture. He did that as a rookie coach. He has made WAY more good decision than bad. The Bills are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I remember watching an interview with the Pittsburg owner about how they have managed to go three straight coach's with near lifetime tenure. He said they simply find the smartest person they can that fits the ownership and organizational mentality, and then they support him with everything they have, no matter what, and live through letting them learn and make mistakes.

I believe Terry will do exactly that with Bean and McDermott. They are here to stay and will be backed 100% for a long time to come. They may make mistakes and have some failures here and there, but as long as they are learning, they will be supported.

The offense was sputtering, and McDermott addressed it. Dorsey was a mistake, because they gave in to what Josh wanted instead of hiring another top experienced offensive coordinator. McD is not an offensive guru, so he should not be hiring inexperienced offensive coordinators. He learned, and should not do it again.

Take a step back. Look at where we are at vs 6 years ago. McD has miles of rope here. Personally, I think he will continue to grow and improve. Next year is going to be a retool/cap hit year. They will go back to having a defensive coordinator. They will either stay with Joe Brady, if he shows he can handle it, or get a seasoned O-coordinator. Then another run at it.

McD sucks ? No. Being messed w by towers and subtil telephony shite to affect the outcome of a sporting evebt is truly lame and sports is dead
Im proud of the fofht of a team that won that game and tried to win it again and again for themselves and the city.
Josh was amazing
Poyer amazing Diggs kincaid and Gabe amazing catching and blocking
Fumble recovery ended game bass one miss manipulated the tying field was impressively weird in its flight. Blah blah id forfeit the rest of the season to spare the bs hope heart ripping of a city. As this is a great dominate team w forces against the 99 percent of the public does not understand and THEY listen on your spy phones to make sure you don't get it

 

[Husko]

Is Reich any good? He seems to have never had elite QB play aside from Luck’s final season. Also it’s a very Pegula hire.

I really liked him in Philly and early Indy. But the last few years his offenses have been very old school traditional dropback. Makes me wonder if Pederson/Siriani were the secret sauce and he just never had a very innovative mind. He just took a competetive team, was given a blank check, and turned them into one of the worst in football. As much as it sounds like a Pegula hire, I'd be disgusted if they fired McDermott for him.

 

[Jim Bob]

This is the 2nd loss in a row that STs cost them big time.

 

[K8fool]

We played one of our best games on O and D and won many times but really on aj brown fumble.

 

[Husko]

We played one of our best games on O and D and won many times but really on aj brown fumble.

No! We didn't! They played a good half, and then got taken apart. 31 points on 7 drives is very very very bad!

 

[kirby11]

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This is the 2nd loss in a row that STs cost them big time.

The miss from 48 was a killer. Can't really blame him for the block--Carter got a great jump, it wasn't too much of a line drive.

I sort of wondered at the end of game sequence if the Bills would've been better off letting Brown catch the pass and then tackling him in bounds to force Philly to rush the kick, but Elliott probably would've made it anyway.

 

[TageGod]

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This is the 2nd loss in a row that STs cost them big time.

Third total. Team is 9-3 if special teams is competent.

 

[Ace]

Third total. Team is 9-3 if special teams is competent.

Imagine what theyd be with competent head coaching or even defensive coordinator in the final minutes of games

Hell..his indecision on Dorsey alone cost them multiple games. They had their state run media people on one bills live mocking the suggestion of firing Dorsey because it wouldn’t work and offenses don’t turn around in season.

Then what happened?

If he had fired Dorsey when most of the world said to they’d be better off too.

What has McDermott actually done to help this team since 13 seconds?

 

[zenthusiast]

Imagine what theyd be with competent head coaching or even defensive coordinator in the final minutes of games

Hell..his indecision on Dorsey alone cost them multiple games. They had their state run media people on one bills live mocking the suggestion of firing Dorsey because it wouldn’t work and offenses don’t turn around in season.

Then what happened?

If he had fired Dorsey when most of the world said to they’d be better off too.

What has McDermott actually done to help this team since 13 seconds?

You expect to stop a guy like Mac Jones in the two minute drill?

 

[Zman5778]

I really liked him in Philly and early Indy. But the last few years his offenses have been very old school traditional dropback. Makes me wonder if Pederson/Siriani were the secret sauce and he just never had a very innovative mind. He just took a competetive team, was given a blank check, and turned them into one of the worst in football. As much as it sounds like a Pegula hire, I'd be disgusted if they fired McDermott for him.

Part of me wouldn't be opposed to hiring Reich as OC for next year if Brady stumbles down the stretch. Josh seems to excel in the old school, under-center, pass-off-playaction stuff.

But then there's part of me that's exactly what you're thinking. Maybe he's TOO old-school to handle a QB like Josh. Dunno.

That said, I'm really liking what Brady has done so far.

 

[SwordsgoneWild]

It is lunacy.

Of course they're probaly harping on the pick he threw in shit conditions and most likely crappy visibility. I despise the incompetent media. Especially ESPN. Josh was a force yesterday. If anything these morons should be blaming our second half D . Most notably the way McD called the last 2 minute D and the last drive in OT. But but turnover! f*** off.